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[TheRealTalker]

So an update from the last thread back in September:

Catalan Parliament votes in favour of secession from Spain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZtJwXjOEcU

72 in favour

63 No

0 Abstain

Catalonia's regional parliament voted in favour of secession from the rest of Spain in Barcelona, Monday, paving the way for Catalonia to gain full independence from Spain by 2017.

http://news.yahoo.com/catalan-parliament-starts-secession-debate-showdown-madrid-105509918.html

Lawmakers in Catalonia officially kicked off a process Monday to secede from Spain by 2017, despite impassioned pleas against independence, in an unprecedented showdown with Madrid's central government.

All 72 pro-independence lawmakers -- the majority in the regional parliament -- voted for a resolution to secede from the rest of the country, drawing huge applause that drowned out opposition MPs holding Spanish flags.

Catalonia's independence movement is an increasingly prickly thorn in the side of conservative Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy, who said his government would go to the Constitutional Court to challenge the resolution.

"I will sign a (legal) recourse of unconstitutionality and will ask for... the immediate suspension of this initiative and all its possible effects," he said in a televised statement shortly after the vote.

- 'Construction of a state' -

The text calls on the regional assembly to start working on legislation within 30 days to create a separate social security system and treasury, with a view to complete independence in 18 months.
The resolution has the backing of Catalan president Artur Mas' Together for Yes coalition and the smaller far-left separatist CUP party.

"Who wants to live in a state that goes after those who promote going to the polls?" said Mas, who is fighting a lawsuit over a symbolic vote on independence he staged last year.

"Who is attracted by a state that uses laws and courts to stifle democracy?

"No one can stop the will of a people moving decisively towards a better future. No lawsuit, no threat, no fear."

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Madrid says it will file an appeal with the Constitutional Court following the Catalan parliament's "vote in favour of initiating proceedings for independence"

 

[neogaffer1]

So do they hold a referendum now or what?

 

[Wellscha]

So do they hold a referendum now or what?

They already did.

 

[super6646]

Reserved. This is going to get interesting.

 

[Onyar]

They already did.

No, it was plebiscite elections.

 

[Rhomega Beta]

I'd like to see how the map changes. Also, cue American right-wingers pointing to this as proof that socialism has failed.

 

[TheRealTalker]

Madrid said this appeal to the court is hopefully their first and last step while Catalonia said they will not abide by Spanish faculties

we will see in the next 18 months and if all the people of Catalonia choose to go pro independence

 

[super6646]

Madrid said this appeal to the court is hopefully their first and last step while Catalonia said they will not abide by Spanish faculties

we will see in the next 18 months and if all the people of Catalonia choose to go pro independence

Imagine this is like quebec in 1995. 51% say no, 49% say yes. That would be a big lol. Well good luck to them.

 

[Escalario]

So when can we expect the fascists from PP to get tanks out on the streets?

 

[Walshicus]

Nice. Good for them and nuts to Madrid.

 

[Chariot]

Oh dear. I wonder how that turns out.

 

[TheRealTalker]

What I want to know is if (and this is a big if) Catalonia splits from Spain what other places will follow suit


Will the Basque break away from Spain later on.... do they have the ability to do so?

 

[Onyar]

What I want to know is if (and this is a big if) Catalonia splits from Spain what other places will follow suit


Will the Basque break away from Spain later on.... do they have the ability to do so?

If Catalonia split will be the first time a territory inside the european union separates from another EU country. This will create a precedent that not only the basque country shall follow, also scotland or flandes. So the ability or not will depend on what happens next to catalonia.

But for now basque country pro independe movement is not as strong that used to be.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

Well, I don't blame them after the Rajoy government went full fascist by prohibiting public protests. I wouldn't want to stay in a country like that.