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[chrisPjelly]

How many times do I need to tell you guys I'm already directing?

Star Wars Episode 2: The Darck World?

 

[Toa TAK]

This isn't The Secret, you can't just will it into reality

I can do just about anything.

I already have my director's chair being measured to fit my (admittedly flat) glut.

Star Wars Episode 2: The Darck World?

I'm gonna beat some ass.

 

[BocoDragon]

Pray do tell what movies in the MCU don't work as stand alone movies? Even the not-good MCU movies like Thor 2 are still things that work on their own. Civil War is kind of a culmination of a lot of things in the MCU, so that is one exception in some regards (though even then, it has its own separate conflict to handle) and of course sequels are always sequels that can't be completely divorced from what has come before & what can come afterwards, but otherwise these movies set up and resolve their own storylines.

Yeah, they drop in hints of what's to come, but all in all those rarely affect the stories. The worst it gets are singular somewhat disconnected throwaway scenes that are a bit heavy handed in world-building past the events of the movie, but those aren't all that numerous. Even huge deals like the infinity stones are used well within the context of the singular movies they are in instead of just being something that leads towards Infinity War.

Last one of these I saw was Spider-Man Homecoming, which begins with them digging up alien ships from Avengers 1 (so much for the down to earth appeal of a teenage everyman in the real world), and ends with them teasing Spider-Man's joining of the Avengers in future sequels. The core of the plot has nothing to do with aliens, and very little to do with Avengers (and the degree to which it does have to do with the Avengers.. you'd better have seen the Avengers movies to get it!).

So it doesn't feel to me that it exists as it's own singular experience. Its opening and ending belong to other works, either calling back to or teasing something else. It denies any chance for it to have it's own opening or ending sequence and establish its own reality. They're not going to teach the Homecoming opening in film class, becuse it feels less like the artful entrance to a film's unique reality, and more of a "previously on..." segment of a TV show.

And this applies to Star Wars too. The celebration scene at the end of ANH belongs to ANH. It isn't a tease for a sequel. Well there was no guarantee of a sequel, you say. Sure, but even the ending of ESB thoroughly belongs to ESB, when they knew a sequel was coming. It's not a preview of ROTJ. Luke and Leia staring out the window at the galaxy is a grand conclusion to its own work.

But the ending of TFA is different ... it's basically a sneak preview of TLJ, taking us right to the next setting and then cutting. TFA doesn't exist as it's own film... for better or for worse it knows its part one of a longer story. It sells you on the next film, and it leaves unresolved plot information to be filled in the next film. It has its own arc unique to itself... but so does an individual episode of Breaking Bad.

God bless people who don't care about this. I think I have a rather outdated Brett Easton Ellis-style idea of what a "film" is... some kind of artful visual work that presents its own reality during its runtime. And films in modern franchises do not care about that at all and are happy to make little pieces of a long term product. They don't pretend to try to make things work on their own, because maybe modern audiences don't care.

Note that I'm not against continuity or references (I love shit like Michael Keaton appearing as the same character in Jackie Brown and Out of Sight). I'm against the way that continuity and references have affected the structure of the movies themselves, to the point that they are just little pieces of a bigger story and not stories that work unto themselves.

 

[Robot Pants]

Just go with Rian

 

[itwasTuesday]

This is a blacklist, right?

Hollywood is weird, blacklist for scripts means they are the most hotly anticipated scripts that don't get made.

 

[Ashhong]

That was my thought as well.

This is the best news all day.

What was the first win?

 

[jack_package_200]

Just go with Rian

Seriously

 

[TheXbox]

Listening to Peter Sciretta talk about certain details on Trevorrow's departure on a podcast he did today.

http://www.slashfilm.com/colin-trevorrow-leaving-star-wars-episode-9/

Apparently Trevorrow wanted to leave IX after his writing partner Derek Connelly was fired and replaced by Thorne, but Lucasfilm talked him into staying to see if the Thorne draft would pan out. It didn't and now he's out.

So I'm betting if/when Rian gets the gig, he'll be rewriting IX himself.

Sounds legit, coming from MSW. This wasn't about The Book of Henry.

 

[Cow Mengde]

What was the first win?

People already made mods for the Prehistoric Kingdom pre-alpha demo.

 

[Chindogg]

Eh, fuck Okja. (I haven't seen his other films)

What's wrong with Okja?

Spoiler

Snowpiercer and The Host are amazing.

 

[BocoDragon]

Just go with Rian

I'd probably pull that lever if given the choice. I can't know that TLJ will be good, but it's the best chance.

 

[Surfinn]

Hard to imagine Rian turning it down

 

[Mariolee]

Pull the craziest shit: get George Lucas to direct.

 

[lemmykoopa]

Can anyone tell me why Johnson is treated like a god at GAF? Even calling him Rian as if you know him personally lol. He's made 2 OK movies and directed a few BB episodes. I saw both Looper and Brick and the tone of Star Wars is so different compared to his directing style.

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

What's wrong with Okja?

The hard anti-GMO bend. Should have left it at animal rights, but the vilifying of GMOs really killed it for me.

 

[Sectorseven]

Alex Kurtzman would clear his schedule for this.

 

[TheOctodad]

This is a blacklist, right?

It's my backup list if Adam Sandler isn't available.

 

[Toa TAK]

Alex Kurtzman would clear his schedule for this.

Don't you even DARE mention that name here.

Jesus Christ.

 

[Chindogg]

The hard anti-GMO bend. Should have left it at animal rights, but the vilifying of GMOs really killed it for me.

Fair. I found it interesting on how he also attacked activists for being a bit crazy themselves. Overall I loved that film and wish he'd make some kind of live action Studio Ghibli adaptation.

 

[JCHandsom]

Can anyone tell me why Johnson is treated like a god at GAF? Even calling him Rian as if you know him personally lol. He's made 2 OK movies and directed a few BB episodes. I saw both Looper and Brick and the tone of Star Wars is so different compared to his directing style.

He's the best name being talked about

Spoiler

that's not named Bronsonlee/Toa Tak

And those BB episodes he directed were the best ones. Also I really love Looper and Brick. So yeah I'm excited.

 

[Emarv]

What's Alex Garland up to? Wait, no. Shane Carruth. I want to watch somebody break the Star Wars universe into pieces.

 

[Neophant]

My dream choice for an Episode IX director would be either J.A. Bayona or George Miller, but I'm sure we'll get a solid Disney director mainstay eventually being announced as the replacement.

 

[Jigorath]

Alex Kurtzman would clear his schedule for this.

What schedule?

Dude just sits at home waiting for the phone to ring. Crying.

 

[Infernostew]

Have Lloyd Kaufman direct it!

 

[kurahador]

I heard Goyer is free. By free, I mean he would direct it for free.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

Can anyone tell me why Johnson is treated like a god at GAF? Even calling him Rian as if you know him personally lol. He's made 2 OK movies and directed a few BB episodes. I saw both Looper and Brick and the tone of Star Wars is so different compared to his directing style.

Sometimes the movie in your head is better than the one on screen. People are hoping The Last Jedi is good + there was no buzz about production problems.

Nothing against TV directing, but I attribute almost all of the strength of those episodes to the writing. TV directing and film directing are different ball games. Hollywood has tried poaching Game of Thrones directors and I don't think that's worked out at all.

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

My dream choice for an Episode IX director would be either J.A. Bayona or George Miller, but I'm sure we'll get a solid Disney director mainstay eventually being announced as the replacement.

Bayona seems like the kind of guy that would really get the soul of Star Wars and do something really genuine with it. George Miller would make something fucking insane. Would take either, lol.

Really wonder who Kathy will be looking to attach to future projects after all of this blows over. Trank, Trevorrow, and Lord/Miller all bombed out for some reason or another, so a switch to more seasoned directors over rising fresh faces seems likely. But then what she's been doing is basically the same approach to the other mega franchises, so maybe LFL will stay the course.

 

[jett]

What's Alex Garland up to? Wait, no. Shane Carruth. I want to watch somebody break the Star Wars universe into pieces.

Shane Carruth would definitely try his hardest to make his Star Wars the first bomb in the franchise.

 

[UnknownSpirit]

I guess since the current rumor is a possibility that Abrams comes back.

Does J.J. even want to do another?

I mean, there has to be other directors than Abrams. (This is if Johnson says "no")

 

[Vibranium]

I wasn't completely worried about Trevorrow, but this seems like it will make a lot of people more relaxed, assuming Lucasfilm can get a better replacement.

 

[The Driver]

Can anyone tell me why Johnson is treated like a god at GAF? Even calling him Rian as if you know him personally lol. He's made 2 OK movies and directed a few BB episodes. I saw both Looper and Brick and the tone of Star Wars is so different compared to his directing style.

Kinda where I'm at tbh. He directed some of the best episodes of BB but I haven't been too crazy about any of his movies though they do seem well written. I'm excited for TLJ but I feel like the faith people place in him is a little weird.

And yeah, I trust him with his arcs but continuing the JJ streak of the ST of "X THING BUT BIGGER" is wack tbh.

 

[shira]

I guess since the current rumor is a possibility that Abrams comes back.

Does J.J. even want to do another?

I mean, there has to be other directors than Abrams. (This is if Johnson says "no")

Both sides had to make concessions for his family. So it's more troublesome, but I doubt JJ would turn it down

 

[Speedydonut]

Watch it end up being Jon Favreau. He always seems to be attached to big Disney movies.

 

[MMarston]

It is time.

Spoiler

jk I'm fine with Rian staying on

 

[Toa TAK]

What schedule?

Dude just sits at home waiting for the phone to ring. Crying.

He wasted Sofia Boutella.

He should be.

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

I guess since the current rumor is a possibility that Abrams comes back.

Does J.J. even want to do another?

I mean, there has to be other directors than Abrams. (This is if Johnson says "no")

J.J. pretty much immediately expressed his regrets in not doing VIII (literally within days of TFA releasing). So yeah, I think he would want it.

It is time.

Spoiler

jk I'm fine with Rian staying on

My dream. But I genuinely believe TFA was the last chance of that ever happening.

 

[lemmykoopa]

He's the best name being talked about

Spoiler

that's not named Bronsonlee/Toa Tak

And those BB episodes he directed were the best ones. Also I really love Looper and Brick. So yeah I'm excited.

I understand, but those BB episodes were so good because of the script, not the directing. Tv shows have a lot of directors in rotation and have to abide to the vision of the lead showrunner (ie Gilligan with regards to BB).

 

[BronsonLee]

If Toa and I team up we could become Brontaka Helmers and handle the next Pirates film

 

[Emarv]

Can anyone tell me why Johnson is treated like a god at GAF? Even calling him Rian as if you know him personally lol. He's made 2 OK movies and directed a few BB episodes. I saw both Looper and Brick and the tone of Star Wars is so different compared to his directing style.

I mean, we have different opinions on the quality of those movies/episodes. But in a nutshell, he's a great, confident director. He adapts to genres really well, yet shows restraint when he needs to. He's also extremely affable in interviews and to fans, so he's easy to root for.

I understand, but those BB episodes were so good because of the script, not the directing. Tv shows have a lot of directors in rotation and have to abide to the vision of the lead showrunner (ie Gilligan with regards to BB).

TV is a writer's medium, sure. But there's a ton of quality direction within television and it's easily seen. Watching great directors play in a show's wheelhouse and stretch what it can be is great and often rewarded. Johnson's episodes are crafted really well, and that's not just the writing.

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

I understand, but those BB episodes were so good because of the script, not the directing. Tv shows have a lot of directors in rotation and have to abide to the vision of the lead showrunner (ie Gilligan with regards to BB).

I mean, yeah, the scripts were amazing.

The directing was phenomenal too. Like, you really can't dismiss how well directed Fly and Ozymandias were. It can be both, and BB was a relatively director driven show.

 

[Glassboy]

Yeah Rian's BB episode(s?) were great (except for "The Fly") but I think they were good because of the culmination of events leading to it. He still probably did a bang up job directing them, but I don't think all the credit should go to him.
I'm still excited for Last Jedi to see what he does with it.

 

[Toa TAK]

If Toa and I team up we could become Brontaka Helmers and handle the next Pirates film

We can't do any worse than the last two.

 

[BuggyDClown]

I guess since the current rumor is a possibility that Abrams comes back.

Does J.J. even want to do another?

I mean, there has to be other directors than Abrams. (This is if Johnson says "no")

Nothing would make me happier, (loved TFA).

As far as him wanting to come back, there is a reason to believe it may be true.

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/jj-abrams-star-wars-episode-viii-1201667205/

Abrams’ lifelong friend Greg Grunberg told The Washington Post that he has never heard the director express regret in such great capacity.

“He read it and said something he never, ever says,” Grunberg, who plays X-Wing pilot Snap Wexley in “The Force Awakens,” told The Washington Post. “He said, ‘It’s so good, I wish I were making it.’ He may have said something one time on ‘Lost’ with Damon [Lindelof], but I never hear him express regret like that.”

 

[duckroll]

I understand, but those BB episodes were so good because of the script, not the directing.

Why is it one or the other? Why not both?

 

[Chindogg]

It is time.

If it ever happens, I'm willing to bet that it'll be the Yoda movie he does.

 

[Emarv]

I understand, but those BB episodes were so good because of the script, not the directing. Tv shows have a lot of directors in rotation and have to abide to the vision of the lead showrunner (ie Gilligan with regards to BB).

Yeah Rian's BB episode(s?) were great (except for "The Fly") but I think they were good because of the culmination of events leading to it. He still probably did a bang up job directing them, but I don't think all the credit should go to him.

This is TV/film. A collaborative medium. All the credit shouldn't go to any of them and none of them would solely take it. Interviews on like Ozymandius will show all three of the major creatives praising each other (Gilligan, Johnson, Walley-Beckett).

 

[DOWN]

I’m glad. Episode VIII has one of the best dramatic directors in the industry and then we were supposed to finish with the Jurassic World and Book of Henry guy? No way

Thanks Lucasfilm

 

[sphagnum]

The primary reason JJ didn't want to do TLJ was because of time constraints since he would have been coming off of TFA.

 

[lemmykoopa]

I mean, yeah, the scripts were amazing.

The directing was phenomenal too. Like, you really can't dismiss how well directed Fly and Ozymandias were. It can be both, and BB was a relatively director driven show.

I think any other director that was in the BB rotation would have done an equal good job. Gilligan was pulling the strings on every episode, no matter who was directing it.

 

[JCHandsom]

I mean, yeah, the scripts were amazing.

The directing was phenomenal too. Like, you really can't dismiss how well directed Fly and Ozymandias were. It can be both, and BB was a relatively director driven show.

Yup

Yeah Rian's BB episode(s?) were great (except for "The Fly")

Nope