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Mack Brown has completely fucked our program by not retiring at the end of last season when he was supposed to.

Deciding to stick around next season as well seems to have been the nail into our programs coffin.

Who do we have left?

The offensive staff we didn't fire is going to Florida with Major. The defensive staff is going to Florida with Muschamp.

The "best" sounding rumor right now is going after Randy Shannon for DC and going after another OC candidate.

I think the whole thing sounds FUBAR, because our head coach is a lame duck that is going to either retire soon or JoePa us into obscurity.

Dodds should grow a pair of balls ask Mack to step down and throw as much money as possible at Jim Harbaugh if he doesn't bolt to the NFL this season. or someone else.

If we don't have a new Head Coach and excitement around this program early next week the mass exodus of transfers will begin, and you can be sure all of our recruits are going to be taking off. The defensive ones who signed to play with Muschamp will be gone. the offensive ones have no fucking idea what our offense is going to look like.

I was having a very lovely Christmas party for work last night. It turned into a bunch of drunk UT fans collectively slitting our wrists.
 
^^ Good post. Yea, we are pretty fucked. And yes Florida fans you should be excited, part of the reason Mack had been able to get "the best texas recruiting class of all time" is because Muschamp did alot of the work. GJ at recognizing a good thing and going for it.

And scrooge, I bet Mack was hoping a little more "faith" as he would say for Applewhite and Muschamp. But I really don't blame either one.
 
Well,

Muschamp is something of a gamble. He is a very good DC. We don't yet know how good of a head coach he will make. Same with Major. They are both young, energetic guys who bring in good recruits and know the X's and O's well.

That said, it's a gamble that I think pays off at Florida, and Muschamp is young enough that they could have a head coach for decades if he doesn't go to the NFL at some point. Florida isn't a job you leave to move on somewhere else to.

I guess the good news is in 4 years when Mack is done gutting our program and finally puts his ego aside to retire Major will be ready for a head coaching job.
 
So in the last week or so, Texas has lost its:

Offensive Coordinator
Defensive Coordinator
O-line Coach
D-line coach/special teams coordinator
RB Coach

Damn.
 
StoOgE said:
Well,

Muschamp is something of a gamble. He is a very good DC. We don't yet know how good of a head coach he will make. Same with Major. They are both young, energetic guys who bring in good recruits and know the X's and O's well.

That said, it's a gamble that I think pays off at Florida, and Muschamp is young enough that they could have a head coach for decades if he doesn't go to the NFL at some point. Florida isn't a job you leave to move on somewhere else to.

I guess the good news is in 4 years when Mack is done gutting our program and finally puts his ego aside to retire Major will be ready for a head coaching job.
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A gamble yes, but with the exception of Zook, Foley makes excellent decisions on who to hire. Muschamp with either win a whole bunch of conference championships right away, or burn out after a few years.

Also, I saw an AP article that Meyer retired again because of health. The burning in the chest never went away.

http://www.gatorsports.com/article/...ts-exclusive-Meyer-resigned-over-health-risks
 
Notre Dame
Michigan
Texas
Florida
USC

Who would have thought these teams would all be down simultaneously?
 
bluemax said:
I realize this is from a USC blog so its a bit slanted but what's up with this shit NCAA?
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The one thing not mentioned is the reason James switched vehicles. The girl and the friends of the girl he got a felony over were writing disparaging notes and putting them on his car a couple times a week.
 
jjasper said:
Fulmer did the same thing. Ran the program into the ground.
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It's a rough position for the AD. It's a coach that has done great things for the program, and the previous 2 years had put us either in the title game or very near it.

It's like the Nebraska situation circa 2001. They went from being a top tier team to being passed by in short order. Same thing seems to be happening here. difference is we had everything set up for the future once Mack moved on.. and then he just.. didn't.
 
JCX said:
Notre Dame
Michigan
Texas
Florida
USC

Who would have thought these teams would all be down simultaneously?
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Notre Dame is always down, dude. They've been down for 15 years (more or less).

the others, it's surprising.
 
StoOgE said:
It's a rough position for the AD. It's a coach that has done great things for the program, and the previous 2 years had put us either in the title game or very near it.
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Yeah what ultimately did Fulmer in was the situation Brown is in now. He had to completely redo his entire offensive staff. When he chose his new OC and the team sucked he was gone. Weird too cause he let the pressure of having to make a big hire get to him and he went with a wild card (Clawson) instead of a something he was probably more comfortable with (Michigan OC and Mallet). My guess is that if he had picked the Michigan OC he wouldn't have gone 5-7 the next year and would probably still have his job.
 
Looks like Randy Shannon is Texas' new defensive coordinator.

I like the hire actually. Especially since this is a longer term move and not someone we really need to worry about being poached.

Now lets see what Mack had up his sleeve for OC. He passed on Major, which probably means we got one of the top targets and are just not announcing it until after whoever it is finishes their bowl game.. (Boise St OC?)
 
JCX said:
Notre Dame
Michigan
Texas
Florida
USC

Who would have thought these teams would all be down simultaneously?
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Don't forget that Alabama went 9-3 and may lose to a mediocre Big Ten team in the Capital One Bowl. That's pretty down.
 
Its a down year for a lot of teams...

Nebraska fans consider this a down year and we won 10 (11 with the bowl) games! People had some crazy expectations!
 
mre said:
Don't forget that Alabama went 9-3 and may lose to a mediocre Big Ten team in the Capital One Bowl. That's pretty down.
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Cyan said:
A lot of innuendo and not much actual info.

Also, this:

shouldn't have any bearing on anything. McKnight was suspended by USC, because they were gunshy and because they couldn't afford to look like any shenanigans were happening at that point.
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Right, well I did say it was slanted.
 
Talon- said:
...Face AIDS?
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Face AIDS is an organization on campus that raises money to help face AIDS in Africa. However most people poke fun of the organization because it sounds like there are AIDS on your face. It's just an unfortunate name
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5912786

Al Golden has been offered and accepted the Miami coaching job, a source confirmed on Sunday.


The 41-year-old Golden spent five seasons at Temple, transforming the Owls from a program that was 1-11 in his first season to winning 19 games in his past two seasons at the Philadelphia school.


He would succeed Randy Shannon, who was fired after the Hurricanes (7-5) finished with a loss to South Florida.


The Owls went 8-4 this season, beating a Connecticut team that is headed for a BCS bowl by two touchdowns. They were not invited to a bowl game.


Temple was 0-11 the year before Golden arrived. In 2009 he led the Owls to their first bowl game in 30 years. He also presided over a dramatic improvement in the program's Academic Progress Rating -- one Golden and the school have previously called the greatest turnaround in the NCAA's APR era.


Golden, a New Jersey native and former Penn State tight end, has earned a reputation as a dogged recruiter and strong motivator in addition to being a disciplinarian.


Golden met twice in person with Miami athletic director Kirby Hocutt, once in New York and then in Philadelphia, during the interview process. Former Miami assistant coach Marc Trestman, the coach of the two-time defending CFL Grey Cup champion Montreal Alouettes, also received strong consideration for the job, as did UConn coach Randy Edsall and Houston coach Kevin Sumlin.


Golden previously worked under Al Groh as Virginia's defensive coordinator. He was also an assistant under Joe Paterno at Penn State and under Tom O'Brien at Boston College.


Miami is playing in the Hyundai Sun Bowl against Notre Dame on Dec. 31. Interim coach Jeff Stoutland is expected to lead the Hurricanes against the Fighting Irish.
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supposedly good recruiter, motivator, disciplinarian and all about the grades, sounds like a perfect fit that the UM board wants.
 
Alakablamo said:
Looks like Malzahn really is the next Vanderbilt HC.

Seems like it would be obvious for him to call the BCSNC game, but ...
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I'm reading that it still isn't a done deal, but I mean...it's inevitable.
 
So, new scuttlebutt says that Major might not be gone, Shannon is the new DC and Muschamp is not trying to take recruits and is actually calling Texas recruits and telling them they made the right move to come to Texas.

Mack sticking around too long and recruiting practices (early commits from Juniors, promising to stop recruiting positions for certain top targets) are what led to Muschamp leaving.

Mack is super pissed because he fired his friend (Greg Davis) to keep Muschamp happy and was allowing Muschamp to pick the OC when all of this went down.

I still love you coach Boom :(
 
StoOgE said:
Muschamp is not trying to take recruits and is actually calling Texas recruits and telling them they made the right move to come to Texas.
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It's like Muschamp and Orgeron are the same person in different bodies.
 
squicken said:
And Bob Stoops here. All those BCS losses don't look so bad compared to sweating an opener against Rice
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Yeah, but y'all really seem to miss the stability of Big Red's Sports and Imports.

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According to a Florida commit who spoke to Corch Boom over the phone, he said he would be handling the DC duties himself.
 
If Gus to Vandy comes true, we should all write a thank you note, to the guy who acts like an AD for that AD-less school. Get's Gus out of a school that does us damage, and moves him to a school locked into snobby academic standards, promising he'll never really get the cream of the crop football players!
 
MrJames said:
According to a Florida commit who spoke to Corch Boom over the phone, he said he would be handling the DC duties himself.
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I'll be interested to see how long that lasts. There are very few coaches who can pull of head coaching and playcalling well.
 
So.. word on the street (take this for what you will of course).

Texas will have a presser tomorrow and name both coordinators.

DC will be Randy Shannon
OC will be either Harsin (Boise St) or Major.

They already offered major co-OC without playcalling and that is what pissed him off. Now UT is in damage control mode and if they can't get Harsin to leave Boise before their bowl game they will name Major as OC and potentially head coach in waiting (because it worked so well last time we did that...)
 
Golden at Miami is a mistake. He's the kind of coach that beats the teams with less talent, and loses to all the teams with more talent.

Yeah so he sold some good MAC caliber players and some players that could have gone to lower tier BCS schools on being a part of rebuilding Temple. That's a lot different than trying to recruit blue chippers to Miami to try and be elite.

Running a clean program and building things the right way moves you in the right direction when you're Temple, but at Miami that could very well go backwards in wins.

Of any coaching hire this year I'd say this has to be most likely to fail.
 
Stooge,

Take a deep breath. You guys will lose maybe 2-3 recruits at most. The kids go to play at Texas and you know it. Step back from the ledge.

Mack is still pretty young.. he'll get Shannon and you guys will poach a solid OC from somewhere else and be fine. Major Applewhite did pretty well in his one year at Alabama but it's not like he's the end all-be all. I think you should be more disappointed that Stoops is till at Oklahoma. Him going to UF would have been better for you guys than Muschamp bolting.

StoOgE said:
I'll be interested to see how long that lasts. There are very few coaches who can pull of head coaching and playcalling well.
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Jimbo is still essentially our OC and does all the playcalling. I'm curious if Will wants to show his buddy that anything you can do, I can do (better).
 
http://newsok.com/oklahoma-could-be...several-ways/article/3523161?custom_click=rss

“I don't want to de-commit yet,” Edmond told Rivals.com on Sunday. “I want to get some more information on other schools. If they don't get someone I really like, I'm gone. I only know one coach there. I can do that at a different school.”

The four schools believed to be in play for Edmond are OU, USC, Auburn and now Florida, since Muschamp was the one who recruited him.

Four-star San Antonio defensive tackle Quincy Russell, who had an early offer from OU, has too gone on the record that he is no longer sold on Texas and will begin to look around.

Arizona native Christian Westerman, arguably the top offensive tackle in the country, could be another Texas commitment the Sooners now go after once again.
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Every good player they've got coming in will be thinking about leaving. Not like Texas is done, but this could hurt their talent for a couple years.
 
Some of y'all don't follow recruiting. This will have little to no affect on UT's class this year and none going forward after that.
 
Meier said:
Some of y'all don't follow recruiting. This will have little to no affect on UT's class this year and none going forward after that.
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I don't, so I am genuinely curious as to why it won't affect recruiting. From that article I linked, it seems the Sooners don't really have scholarships available to offer at this point. Is that the reason, most schools have already targeted the guys they want?

I still don't see how that would effect the following year's class, though. If UT starts slow, or there's buzz Mack might retire, wouldn't guys who have verbally committed as juniors be able to change their minds?
 
squicken said:
I don't, so I am genuinely curious as to why it won't affect recruiting. From that article I linked, it seems the Sooners don't really have scholarships available to offer at this point. Is that the reason, most schools have already targeted the guys they want?
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That is a big part of the reason this late in the game.

Texas also commits to most of it's player just weeks after the verbal commit period begins which means most of Texas' recruits are solidly wanting to come to Texas.

Where it becomes bad for Texas is if we don't get someone in the door that is buzzworthy in the next few weeks because we will be behind the ball for next year.
 
Meier said:
Some of y'all don't follow recruiting. This will have little to no affect on UT's class this year and none going forward after that.
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Indeed. What's an atrocious recruiting year for UT? 10th ranked class? 15th? One 15th ranked year among all those 1st and 2nd rated classes isn't going to do anything to the talent level.
 
JCX said:
Big Ten will unveil division names, new logo , at noon.
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Ooh, cool.

That's a lot sooner than I was expecting.

Honestly, North and South would be the best division names. Other than Wisconsin, it pretty much fits geographically.
 
Here's betting $100 that the Big XII won't change its name...

If they do, I'm hoping for:

Big Twen
Big Telve
Big XII - II
Big Twexas
Texas and the 9 Dwarfs
 
Hey guys, I have been busy all weekend and haven't been paying attention to the news, whats new?

Oh?

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EDIT: Although I was able to catch Pony Excess, that was awesome.
 
ConfusingJazz said:
Hey guys, I have been busy all weekend and haven't been paying attention to the news, whats new?

Oh?

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What are the legitimate expectations for Texas next year? 7-5? 8-4? 9-3 with losses to OU, OSU, and A&M?

I mean, I can't imagine that they'll suddenly jump up and contend for the Big 12 crown after last year and all these coaching losses.
 
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