Serpentine
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This sounds amazing
-brandon graham and whoever he decides for art
-slott/ramos/stegman
-chip zdarsky on writing + art
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COMICS! |OT| August 2014. Infinite universes, or just fifty-two? Thanos.
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This sounds amazing
-brandon graham and whoever he decides for art
-slott/ramos/stegman
-chip zdarsky on writing + art
Yeah, Born Again. I read it in a german translation and the translated title could have been booth
Definitly need to pick this up in english, too. To bad, that the Daredevil Miller Companion OHC is out of print and has a insane price, I would have ordered it immediately.
Really a fantastic story, I definitly need to pick up more Daredevil.
This feels like a slight against me lol.
SpiderJerusalem
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Nah X-23 was good. Not even gambit and jubilee could ruin it.
Supermanisdead
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X-23 was so bad, I'd rather read a Gambit solo. That Lolita Wolverine piece of shit is probably the worst character in Marvel next to Dark Beast.
indigo-cyclops
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It's incredibly difficult to post pictures from Blacksad without spoiling a whole lot, but my god is it perfect:
I figure I would pull something in a different language, but the art is just so expressive.
Yea Blacksad was one of the best new discoveries I've made in comics. I had no idea about it until this thread, but I am really enjoying it. It's got me really interested in seeking out more European series.
TetraxShards
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I'd recommend the Ellis run (collected in one volume) and the Jeff Parker version that eventually turned into Dark Avengers.
I've never seen anything quite like it. I'm stuck waiting on IST to send me the second book.
Just read the first two volumes of Lucifer by Mike Carey and holy hell is this series amazing I'm surprised I haven't read it until now I'm really impressed that Carey has managed to capture the tone of the Sandman series and the art just helps out a lot.
Lucifer is just one suave motherfucker I loved how he just completely wrecked Izanami's house during his quest to get his wings back. Looking forward to reading the rest of this.
Lucifer is just one suave motherfucker I loved how he just completely wrecked Izanami's house during his quest to get his wings back. Looking forward to reading the rest of this.
Are you aware of the kind of books I enjoy perhaps?
indigo-cyclops
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Haha wow, great details. So it wasn't that bad then? I am slightly intrigued. I just saw the commercial again and noticed Hawkeye...
Really makes me wish we'd all have more access to stuff like Moebius or Enki Bilal.
TheDarkKnight774
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As I diehard sandman fan I too was stunned when this series released. I went in thinking it'd suck to floored someone managed to capture Gaimans tone and then really expand the world. It does help years later and after reading more of mike Carey that he's the closest in style to Gaiman that I've come across in writers working today. Check Out unwritten and his under rated series crossing midnight
Freezasaurus
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Because you think everyone is constantly judging you. I just have a good idea of the books that appeal to you.
This is incredibly accurate not just about here but also how I feel off the Internet.
It's a curse :/
Supermanisdead
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Sibersk Esto
Banned
Yeah it was funny in a just for kids kind of way. Very circus-esque, but with Marvel heroes
Napoleonthechimp
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Captain America's crusade is bullshit if you've read New Avengers.
The Illuminati being monsters? Is it monstrous to destroy a planet to save two universes?
Monstrous would be sitting back and letting your own egotistical morality destroy everything. Which is precisely what everyone other than Namor were willing to do in New Avengers.
Monstrous would be sitting back and letting your own egotistical morality destroy everything. Which is precisely what everyone other than Namor were willing to do in New Avengers.
GrandHarrier
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Well, I look at it this way:
You're talking about people who have come up with batshit insane solutions to batshit insane problems before. And the only idea that they can come up with is to blow up the other planet? You have the technology and power to blow up entire planets, crossover dimensions, the list is endless. It's comic book dumb that they can't think up other dumb comic book solutions. If the problem is the two Earths colliding then stop the collision. Crisis averted? Or evacuate everyone to a different alien world, blow up their own Earth and never worry about an incursion again because there is no Earth to be collided with.
Tangent to your point: I find it fascinating though that people comment about DC being grimdark when Marvel is the one with heroes who murder worlds.
I need to finish reading it, but I don't want to continue until I get Volume 10. It's out of print, though, and I don't want to have to double-dip on an entirely new set. Bleh. I'll have to get it from eBay or a on Amazon.
You need inspiration? Here's this
Also feels, FEELS.
Screw you mangos, start on X-Statix then try t find a manga that'll make get feels like X-Statix did.
ahahaha
That is pretty great.
Supermanisdead
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It's all falling apart for Hickman and I find it really cheap and stupid to vilify Namor for actually doing EXACTLY what they all gathered to do. The bomb was armed, it was on the planet, and because he is the only one with the balls to set it off, he's the villain? Lmao. Who the hell built a world destroying bomb? Who transported it to the other Earth? I feel like Hickman dropped the ball big time with that.
IMO Black Panther, Reed, etc. were all acting incredibly selfish. You 6 people are allowed to decide on the destruction of 2 whole universes just because of your morals? Grow up.
IMO Black Panther, Reed, etc. were all acting incredibly selfish. You 6 people are allowed to decide on the destruction of 2 whole universes just because of your morals? Grow up.
TetraxShards
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DC characters being dark is a square peg in a round hole though.
TheDarkKnight774
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Explain
Why impulse buy that when you haven't picked up Bandette and Amelia Cole yet? C'mon Messi.
Freezasaurus
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At least some of it. They switched artists around pretty frequently on that book.
Why is that?
GrandHarrier
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Batman.
Seems that volume is out of print in some sense?
Everyone in New Avengers is in a morally gray area. They just found out there's a difference between talking about killing 6 billion people for the greater good and actually doing it. I don't fault them for not having the balls, that's a hell of a line to cross even if you're the good guy doing it for the right reasons. It's why Batman doesn't kill the Joker, if you start there where do you stop?
That said, Namor isn't a monster for doing it, it had to be done.
That said, Namor isn't a monster for doing it, it had to be done.
Sibersk Esto
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I'm not clear, do you mean that DC characters aren't originally meant to be written dark?
The problem is theres no endgame. So you destroy one world, then two and three. Then what? Youre putting a bandaid on a axe wound and youd figure with so many smart people on the team, theyd realize that. And the fact that they have designated themselves the secret saviors of the world, when this shit is so much bigger than them shows how short sighted they are
Freezasaurus
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It would seem. It's funny how they have the HC but not the tpb.
Yeah with a small bit of effort I can now get all 3 hardcovers but not the paperback. It's backwards.
The problem is if they can't figure out how to fix it, who can? You've got Reed, Tony, Beast and T'challa in the same room and none of them can figure this out. You look to the future and even they have no answers, shit Franklin doesn't seem to know how to fix it either and you'd think Reed would have told him or Val at some point.
They know it's an axe wound and all they've been doing is applying band-aids, but they have no idea what caused this axe wound or where it's even located so they can't exactly treat it. If they had those bits of information the problem would have been solved in volume one.
They know it's an axe wound and all they've been doing is applying band-aids, but they have no idea what caused this axe wound or where it's even located so they can't exactly treat it. If they had those bits of information the problem would have been solved in volume one.
TetraxShards
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When I picture DC characters, I guess I picture hope, or at least an idealistic version of hope. I'm not saying they can't go through dark times, but for me, a lot of the attempts to make characters and books more mature or relevant just make them kinda dorky and not in an endearing way. It's like, many creators are still inspired to write cape books by Watchmen and DKR, but they are still taking away the wrong lessons. I'm not anti-DC either, I enjoy all of their output of theirs that I am reading (I slaughtered my pulls recently, for time reasons more than anything, I was spending too long reading bad books and never getting around to stuff I actually wanted to read).
This is not limited to New 52 stuff either, I've read Cry for Justice and that's worse than anything from the reboot except the Death of the Family Suicide Squad issues (which is the reason a good friend of mine who adores Harley Quinn won't touch comics anymore). It's not even limited to DC, compare All Hail Megatron and the Costa-era Transfomers (the IDW Dork Age) to the current books. Nobody's saying every book has to be frothy fun, but I do think that there's a difference between mature stories and stories with mature content.
And Messi should defnitely buy Bandette. It would be like catnip for him. Such a good book.
Zero Year
SpiderJerusalem
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Aw yea! Bandette is the shit.
Supermanisdead
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Yeah, I get that too. But sorry, too fucking bad. It all felt like a cheap cop-out so the ~good ones~ could win and still make someone a world-destroying villain.
Sure, there's no endgame because they haven't figure it out. They're doing their best to keep their head above water. They know they need a permanent solution, but where do they even start? In the meantime they need to keep the universes alive. That's why I hated involving Captain America in this. What's he going to do? Pray away the incursions with his pure soul and indomitable will?
TheDarkKnight774
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Finally a fellow fan. I wish they came out more frequently but for 99cents per issue, the comic is a steal
I knew I had the first issue from a few months back, must have given it away free.
Oh my god. Its adorable.
Yep, all the Kirby omnibi have old school paper.
slightconfuse
Banned
Cry for justice was nominated for an Eisner
SpiderJerusalem
Banned
bwahaha!
yea I got all dorky for Colleen Coover when she had stuff in X-men First Class comics..those Jean Grey things
brilliance cam come from simple ideas. reed gets amazed by things that he never even had the forethought to consider. to try to shoulder the universe on a handful of men, no matter how smart seems like a flawed idea, especially when you overlook other men and women who would easily help.
because what their doing now is helping? they are literally on borrowed time. the illuminati have failed at just about every event theyve tried so far, and nothing has been on the scale of this, and it always comes back to bite them in the ass. this is and will be no different. they want to destroy worlds to save theirs, but dont have the conviction to do it? then whats the damn point? fresh ideas from pym, cho and doom could probably help give perspective on things.
TheDarkKnight774
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I was hoping you'd notice that obvious pun. Is there other work from her I should check out?
I don't really think Pym or Cho are going to join the Illuminati, Hickman hasn't used them at all in either book and he's pretty good about not pulling shit out of his ass. If anything they're probably part of an alternate earth that gets blown up by The Cabal.
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