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Cop thread, tip thread, and now some poster wants to make it a fat thread too.

lmao

 

[Infinite]

Sorry? not making anything up, go look at The Faceless' posts in this very thread.

I'm not saying there aren't bad cops, and that there arent many, and that more can be done. But generlising all cops as bad cops will get america nowhere.

Critizing the instution of policing isn't saying all individual cops suck. Yes, there's good cops but the inherent protocol of policing needs reform so communities can be able to trust them and not look at someone with a badge as trouble

 

[Chie Satonaka]

Sorry? not making anything up, go look at The Faceless' posts in this very thread.

I'm not saying there aren't bad cops, and that there arent many, and that more can be done. But generlising all cops as bad cops will get america nowhere.

The only reason we've gotten to where we are now is because of technology. You know that, right? The issue has become so large thanks to the availability of cameras and social media that it can't be ignored. The idea that generalizing police officers is significantly holding back progress is ridiculous.

 

[marrec]

Dunno about these specific dudes but every cop I met in Homestead is kinda a shit tbh

 

[cj_iwakura]

Jesus, the hate in this thread... certain cops that do wrong doesn't need the result of demonizing every police officer on the planet. These are people who put their lives on the line day in and day out. Try not to generalize.

 

[pigeon]

This is the dumbest analogy I've ever seen ... so you thing all good abiding cops should want to quit because of this? I very much doubt that's the last thing they want to do, rather stay put and try and make positive change.

Great. So where's the positive change?

It's really easy to sit around, watch people get murdered and abused, and say "well I'm trying to work within the system to make positive change." But it's also a copout. I would expect to see formal protests, calls for investigation, complaints, etc.

Dallas PD did a good job displaying the behavior I would want to see from police departments that are actually trying to create positive change. The fact that they're considered a notable outlier when it comes to these issues pretty much makes the problem clear.

 

[Valkyr1983]

"Oh you paid for my meal? Well I guess that makes up for you murdering my friends and oppressing my community."

Does every story have to be so negative?

Mr fox fucking news himself over here

Christ

 

[BokehKing]

What do you mean by this? This seems incredibly facile.

I mean when there is a murder, a rape, a stabbing, drug dealing, or anything that goes down in the community, are we going to stop with this "stop snitching" nonsense and actually let the police do their job? Will community leaders finally reach out the people in the community and explain if they want their community cleaned up they are going to do have to do some of the work themselves.

If your job is to solve crimes and put away the bad guys, it's increasingly frustrating when no one will speak up.

Yeah yeah, I get it, I've been there I was a teenager at one time and the whole "fuck the police" attitude, the whole "don't snitch" attitude, I lived that. "Snitches get stitches" and all those other scare tactics people use to continue to let the community go to shit. You don't want to talk to the cops at the scene....fine, make a phone call, go down to the station, help!

Anyway, it just seems like no one believes in good cops or bad cops out numbers good cops and to me that's bullshit.

 

[HStallion]

Sorry? not making anything up, go look at The Faceless' posts in this very thread.

I'm not saying there aren't bad cops, and that there arent many, and that more can be done. But generlising all cops as bad cops will get america nowhere.

Not sticking it to cops in general didn't get America anywhere either. Maybe letting the good cops know that we still consider them apart of an organization that arms up like its the military preparing for war, that protects, hides and pays murders, racists and other monsters because they served beside them, and so on and so forth with all the terrible shit they do. Then they get away with it and the good cops just welcome them back into the ranks to do it again and again. Its going to take a whole lot more than buying some meals at Denny's to make me quiet down about the fact that there is a serious problem with the police in the US.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

We're just a microcosm of a larger self-feeding loop. Hey, I'm not mad you're shitting on cops, but it's certainly not going to engender any unity our leaders have been talking about the past week.

"Unity" is a safeword that helps to ease people who are mad about the situation into feeling better about it. We don't need unity, we need reform. It's not hard.

Philandro Castille was pulled over (and murdered) because he had a wide set nose. Tell me how unity prevents that from happening.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

To be completely honest, I don't exactly know why but I find all these stories that pop up of white cops break dancing and shit in black neighborhoods off putting. I don't know exactly why. Like, people usually prop these videos up as like "See, there's good ones!".

 

[excelsiorlef]

Great. So where's the positive change?

It's really easy to sit around, watch people get murdered and abused, and say "well I'm trying to work within the system to make positive change." But it's also a copout. I would expect to see formal protests, calls for investigation, complaints, etc.

Dallas PD did a good job displaying the behavior I would want to see from police departments that are actually trying to create positive change. The fact that they're considered a notable outlier when it comes to these issues pretty much makes the problem clear.

And even they managed to smear an innocent black man on twitter and put his life at risk, not to mention it was the media who ended up publicly clearing him and not the Dallas PD who took like almost 24 or more hours to delete the tweet that saw him branded him the most wanted man in America

And that's the guys doing better than the rest.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Does every news story have to be so negative?

Mr fox fucking news himself over here

Christ

The officers sent them a rude, passive-aggressive guilt trip. They paid for their meal as a "what, we're not GOOD enough for you?", not as a "I hope we can work together to earn your trust."

The whole "officer does simple action, endearing him to community" thing is fading because people aren't going to trust them until policing actually reforms.

 

[knkng]

good cops need to stop the bad guys. they need to strongly condemn criminal acts. that includes acts by bad cops. any cop not doing that isn't a good cop. they're part of a criminal conspiracy.

Your expectations are absurd. Every cop who isn't actively conducting some sort of internal investigation (which they would not have the capacity to do anyways) is part of a criminal conspiracy?

So if you're some random traffic cop that drives around in a car all day, and then another cop shoots a black person 3 states over, you are also responsible for the murder because you belong to the same government organization?

I know things are crooked with the police, but with your attitude it will never change because you're actively searching for reasons to hate everybody in law enforcement. Call out the bad cops. Call out the organization as a whole. But seeing some random guy sitting in a restaurant and accusing him of murder and saying you want to vomit is ridiculous.

 

[ColdPizza]

"Unity" is a safeword that helps to ease people who are mad about the situation into feeling better about it. We don't need unity, we need reform. It's not hard.

Philandro Castille was pulled over (and murdered) because he had a wide set nose. Tell me how unity prevents that from happening.

"Unity" is the word brought up by almost every black leader on television this week, including Obama. I don't know what to tell you.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Christ yall are being negative about this.

Good on them. It's the little things, at least to start.

 

[Infinite]

Jesus, the hate in this thread... certain cops that do wrong doesn't need the result of demonizing every police officer on the planet. These are people who put their lives on the line day in and day out. Try not to generalize.

It's not that certain cops do wrong it's just that the institution encourages the wrong doing it and even rewards it. harass enough minorities and criminalize them with petty infractions? Congrats you met your quota!

 

[Chie Satonaka]

"Unity" is the word brought up by almost every black leader on television this week, including Obama. I don't know what to tell you.

Doesn't change one single thing about what I said. Good speeches don't bring back dead bodies.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

To be completely honest, I don't exactly know why but I find all these stories that pop up of white cops break dancing and shit in black neighborhoods off putting. I don't know exactly why. Like, people usually prop these videos up as like "See, there's good ones!".

I think people are past the point where kind gestures mean anything towards the problem they want solved. I know I am. Yeah, it's nice when the police are kind people, ideally they would all be, but I think at this point all I want is actual actionable reform and an admittance that there is a problem and they want to fix it. Everything else is just PR talking points.

 

[ISOM]

Jesus, the hate in this thread... certain cops that do wrong doesn't need the result of demonizing every police officer on the planet. These are people who put their lives on the line day in and day out. Try not to generalize.

As long as the good cops continue to protect the bad cops why should people not generalize?

 

[A Link to the Past]

Your expectations are absurd. Every cop who isn't actively conducting some sort of internal investigation (which they would not have the capacity to do anyways) is part of a criminal conspiracy?

So if you're some random traffic cop that drives around in a car all day, and then another cop shoots a black person 3 states over, you are also responsible for the murder because you belong to the same government organization?

I know things are crooked with the police, but with your attitude it will never change because you're actively searching for reasons to hate everybody in law enforcement. Call out the bad cops. Call out the organization as a whole. But seeing some random guy sitting in a restaurant and accusing him of murder and saying you want to vomit is ridiculous.

It is an issue of many, many cops either being categorically bad cops or cops who protect bad cops.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Your expectations are absurd. Every cop who isn't actively conducting some sort of internal investigation (which they would not have the capacity to do anyways) is part of a criminal conspiracy?

So if you're some random traffic cop that drives around in a car all day, and then another cop shoots a black person 3 states over, you are also responsible for the murder because you belong to the same government organization?

I know things are crooked with the police, but with your attitude it will never change because you're actively searching for reasons to hate everybody in law enforcement. Call out the bad cops. Call out the organization as a whole. But seeing some random guy sitting in a restaurant and accusing him of murder and saying you want to vomit is ridiculous.

my attitude is irrelevant to their ability to change and has no bearing on it. them changing is completely up to them and them alone. they can't be good cops if they defend bad cops. they can't even be good cops if they're silent when bad cops do bad things.

also, i already said i was joking about the vomiting.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I think people are past the point where kind gestures mean anything towards the problem they want solved. I know I am. Yeah, it's nice when the police are kind people, ideally they would all be, but I think at this point all I want is actual actionable reform and an admittance that there is a problem and they want to fix it. Everything else is just PR talking points.

Yeah I guess that's it. It's especially annoying when the #allLivesMatter set uses them as opportunistic photo ops, as if some random cop doing his best Boogaloo Shrimp impression in the middle of Atlanta somehow makes Philando Castille or Eric Garner any less dead.

 

[ColdPizza]

Doesn't change one single thing about what I said. Good speeches don't bring back dead bodies.

You keep ducking and weaving man. It's impossible to get anywhere with you. Have a good night.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Doesn't change one single thing about what I said. Good speeches don't bring back dead bodies.

Dude, WTF. Leadership is critical to enacting change,

 

[Subpar Spatula]

4 cops walk into a restaurant and buy people dinner...

 

[Chie Satonaka]

You keep ducking and weaving man. It's impossible to get anywhere with you. Have a good night.

Haha, you're the one who completely ignored the question I asked about unity and deflected back to black leaders and the President.

You do the same! Debates can get heated, so we can totally agree to disagree.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Christ yall are being negative about this.

Good on them. It's the little things, at least to start.

Start of what?

Did you read the note? It puts all the onus and blame on the couple for not wanting to sit near them, it does nothing to address or acknowledge the role police have in making people uncomfortable.

This isn't a message of unity like at all, it's not even an olive branch. It's a passive aggressive you should feel bad about not wanting to be near us.

It's practically #NotAllCops

 

[The Kree]

Your expectations are absurd. Every cop who isn't actively conducting some sort of internal investigation (which they would not have the capacity to do anyways) is part of a criminal conspiracy?

So if you're some random traffic cop that drives around in a car all day, and then another cop shoots a black person 3 states over, you are also responsible for the murder because you belong to the same government organization?

I know things are crooked with the police, but with your attitude it will never change because you're actively searching for reasons to hate everybody in law enforcement. Call out the bad cops. Call out the organization as a whole. But seeing some random guy sitting in a restaurant and accusing him of murder and saying you want to vomit is ridiculous.

Expecting cops to remove the criminal element within their own ranks is definitely an absurd expectation. Gangs don't do shit like that.

 

[Opa-Pa]

It's kinda terrifying that the purpose of this kind of news is to distract people from the current issues regarding cops in the US and most likely the reason these specific cops did (and then reported?) this. And you can definitely tell from the replies in this thread that it does work, even when it's a story where they did something that obviously wasn't 100% honest.

They really can get away with anything, huh.

#NotAllCops

 

[BokehKing]

As long as the good cops continue to protect the bad cops why should people not generalize?

What should they do? Good cops can't change a damn thing, it needs to change at a organizational level. It needs a 100% overhual. Anyone who doesn't pass gets kicked our the force, if they are mentally unfit they can write tickets but can't carry. Not only will kicking out the unfit fix he ober-all moral, it can also usher in a new generation of sympathetic police officers.

The sooner you realize that the better, shit man join the force and change it from with in and see if it's really that simple. Be the whistle blower, but on your road to doing so, be in their shoes and see what they go through day in and day out.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Start of what?

Did you read the not? It puts all the onus and blame on the couple for not wanting to sit near them, it does nothing to address or acknowledge the role police have in making people uncomfortable.

This isn't a message of unity like at all, it's not even an olive branch. It's a passive aggressive you should feel bad about not wanting to be near us.

It's practically #NotAllCops

Didn't you see the official police guidelines for ending police brutality?

1. Buy lunch
2. ????
3. Police reform

 

[The Faceless Master]

I mean when there is a murder, a rape, a stabbing, drug dealing, or anything that goes down in the community, are we going to stop with this "stop snitching" nonsense and actually let the police do their job? Will community leaders finally reach out the people in the community and explain if they want their community cleaned up they are going to do have to do some of the work themselves.

If your job is to solve crimes and put away the bad guys, it's increasingly frustrating when no one will speak up.

Yeah yeah, I get it, I've been there I was a teenager at one time and the whole "fuck the police" attitude, the whole "don't snitch" attitude, I lived that. "Snitches get stitches" and all those other scare tactics people use to continue to let the community go to shit. You don't want to talk to the cops at the scene....fine, make a phone call, go down to the station, help!

Anyway, it just seems like no one believes in good cops or bad cops out numbers good cops and to me that's bullshit.

cops are the #1 gang in the stop snitching movement.

do as i say, not as i do is a great example by the people who are supposed to be the good guys.

 

[Big Baybee]

Who cares? What do these same cops have to say about police brutality and police reform? That's all I care about. Not paying for a cheap meal.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Your expectations are absurd. Every cop who isn't actively conducting some sort of internal investigation (which they would not have the capacity to do anyways) is part of a criminal conspiracy?

So if you're some random traffic cop that drives around in a car all day, and then another cop shoots a black person 3 states over, you are also responsible for the murder because you belong to the same government organization?

I know things are crooked with the police, but with your attitude it will never change because you're actively searching for reasons to hate everybody in law enforcement. Call out the bad cops. Call out the organization as a whole. But seeing some random guy sitting in a restaurant and accusing him of murder and saying you want to vomit is ridiculous.

How about just speaking up? Even if it's 3 states over? This shit is on tape now and too many members of law enforcement and their supporters will trip over themselves to try and absolve the police of any wrong doing. This is the problem. I shouldn't be surprised that nothing is changing. It's been more than 20 year since the Rodney King tape and you still have people defending that.

 

[HStallion]

What should they do? Good cops can't change a damn thing, it needs to change at a organizational level. It needs a 100% overhual. Anyone who doesn't pass gets kicked our the force, if they are mentally unfit they can write tickets but can't carry.

The sooner you realize that the better, shit man join the force and change it from with in and see if it's really that simple. Be the whistle blower, but on your road to doing so, be in their shoes and see what they go through day in and day out.

So they can't do anything but something must be done to change the organization. Maybe the cops who don't like murdering people, appreciate black lives, and so on actually get together and grow a real set and make a public stand against their corrupt brothers. Go on strike, quit en masse, do a sit in do fucking something. Cops can fucking protest too you know. A lot of you hold these good cops out to a low standard, mine are much higher than a meal at Dennys.

 

[mantidor]

#notallblacks
#notallcops

am I doing this right?

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

dont blame them, if i see cops walk into a resturant im in, I get up and leave. you never can be too careful. dont know what kind of power trip those assholes are on.

Same.

 

[The Faceless Master]

Start of what?

Did you read the not? It puts all the onus and blame on the couple for not wanting to sit near them, it does nothing to address or acknowledge the role police have in making people uncomfortable.

This isn't a message of unity like at all, it's not even an olive branch. It's a passive aggressive you should feel bad about not wanting to be near us.

It's practically #NotAllCops

seriously, the note might as well have said "we hope you choke on your fucking food #BACKTHEBLUE"

 

[SirPinkyNose]

Yeah I guess that's it. It's especially annoying when the #allLivesMatter set uses them as opportunistic photo ops, as if some random cop doing his best Boogaloo Shrimp impression in the middle of Atlanta somehow makes Philando Castille or Eric Garner any less dead.

Did these guys killed those people?

 

[ISOM]

What should they do? Good cops can't change a damn thing, it needs to change at a organizational level. It needs a 100% overhual. Anyone who doesn't pass gets kicked our the force, if they are mentally unfit they can write tickets but can't carry. Not only will kicking out the unfit fix he ober-all moral, it can also usher in a new generation of sympathetic police officers.

The sooner you realize that the better, shit man join the force and change it from with in and see if it's really that simple. Be the whistle blower, but on your road to doing so, be in their shoes and see what they go through day in and day out.

No one knows who the good ones are that's the point. So why should anyone react nice to a person in police uniform when who knows what they could be thinking. Until accountability is a mainstay in police ranks, the animosity and uneasiness will continue.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

seriously, the note might as well have said "we hope you choke on your fucking food #BACKTHEBLUE"

i'm dying here

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Did these guys killed those people?

Do they speak up against those that did? If they don't they are enabling bad behavior within their ranks.

 

[BokehKing]

cops are the #1 gang in the stop snitching movement.

do as i say, not as i do is a great example by the people who are supposed to be the good guys.

In the mean time continue to Ignore the problem?
Not all cops are bad
Not all African Americans are bad
The human race needs to get their shit together.

 

[excelsiorlef]

It's funny I do think with a different note this could have been a minor but somewhat meaningful gesture. Alas

 

[Chie Satonaka]

In the mean time continue to Ignore the problem?
Not all cops are bad
Not all African Americans are bad
The human race needs to get their shit together.

Unity!

#notallblacks
#notallcops

am I doing this right?

Looks like it!

 

[The Faceless Master]

In the mean time continue to Ignore the problem?
Not all cops are bad
Not all African Americans are bad
The human race needs to get their shit together.

i think you completely glossed over cops being #1 at not snitching

 

[FO-totality]

IT WILL SHOCK YOU

"No like literally shock you. Tasers deployed."

 

[Arkeband]

It's funny I do think with a different note this could have been a minor but somewhat meaningful gesture. Alas

Or no note. Imagine if the patrons went to pay and the restaurant was like, nah, don't worry about it, the police officers put it on their tab.

Understated, kind, not self-serving, and plants the seed of goodwill.

A photo op, on the other hand, is always an empty gesture. It turns an interaction between the police and the community into a paid advertisement between the police and the local news station.

 

[Big Baybee]

i think you completely glossed over cops being #1 at not snitching

They might as well get Carmelo Anthony to do quarterly seminars.