If Bethesda got a marketing deal with Microsoft for Fallout 4, you'd be really damn sure Microsoft would force them to not make a Steam version. Of course, it all depends on how hard Microsoft wants to go in on the PC.
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Crossbuy Support coming to Windows 10 and Xbox
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If Bethesda got a marketing deal with Microsoft for Fallout 4, you'd be really damn sure Microsoft would force them to not make a Steam version. Of course, it all depends on how hard Microsoft wants to go in on the PC.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
I'll be honest, I'm not certain I see the point of this? The major beauty of Cross buy on playstation is for PS4/3 > Vita. So you have the version you can play at home, or on the go. Cross buy on the Xbox and PC seems like Home version > Home version?
Is this going to be streaming from the Xbox to the PC?
Does this mean more Xbone games natively ported to the PC?
Is this going to be streaming from the Xbox to the PC?
Does this mean more Xbone games natively ported to the PC?
TheSlySoul
Member
Laptops exist, right?
Also this will probably work on Surface 3 and Windows 10 tablets.
Delusibeta
Banned
And there it is: Windows 10 Store is Microsoft's big push into PC gaming.
Dead on arrival.
Dead on arrival.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
I suppose that's true, I'm just so used to people buying games on them as is, (gaming laptops), but yeah, in that context I guess that's pretty sweet. The surface would be pretty awesome, but I'm not sure about how the user experience is without carrying a controller or mouse. I'm very much not in the know regarding this stuff though. It just seemed pretty strange lol, the experiences are pretty different it seemed.
Anton Sugar
Member
They announced a month or two ago that you will be able to stream games from Xbox One to any W10 device.
They're looking into streaming PC games to Xbox One, as well.
The Shogun
Banned
I didn't follow Spencer's segment, did they confirm some more Xbox games coming to PC? Cause if not I don't really see the point of this honestly.
serenewarfare
Banned
That's not going to happen.
TheSlySoul
Member
My guess it will work much like the Shield Tablet.
Oh, and the released a video of all the games coming out for Windows 10/Xbox One:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAWouIYfK7w&feature=youtu.be&t=2m57s
flaxknuckles
Member
I'm coming to the point where I may straight up stop buying Uplay and Origin games. No way I'm spending even a penny on a store limited to one OS now that Steamplay is taking off.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
LostMyNarbles
Member
Here's what Phil said on that matter.
"Phil Spencer is teasing that most first party games will be available for both platforms"
TheSlySoul
Member
Yeah, hopefully they get an Xbox One announcement. At least using ID@Xbox means easy to port.
Mihos
Gold Member
Yeah, that is how I saw it. I really only buy Xbone games if it isn't available on PC... and if it isn't on Steam, I usually don't bother at all.
The Shogun
Banned
Hmmm, they keep hinting at each one of these press events and then not confirming anything. Only thing they actually have is Fable Legends which a f2p game without a ton of hype.
Maybe E3 they'll bust out some of the big guns? Its just like I said without big games to drive people to do this cross buy stuff I just don't really see the point.
And on the MS store with crossbuy no publisher is going to charge people who buy the game on PC less than those who buy on their Xbox.
Prices for digital games on console are typically much higher for longer than people are used to on current PC stores/sellers, so if it becomes the case that a game is locked on PC to the MS store, for ~£50 new and for a long time to come, with the odd sale that knocks it down by 10%, buyers used to Steam's prices, steady lowering of price over time and big sales are going to scoff at console prices even if the game is exclusive to MS store.
For example,
Ryse - console exclusive:
https://store.xbox.com/en-GB/Xbox-One/Bundle/Ryse-Legendary-Edition/8efcf807-c12d-440d-a755-5d7331fb60b9
http://store.steampowered.com/app/302510/
MS store: £45, Steam: £35.
COD: Advanced Warfare - multiplat:
https://store.xbox.com/en-GB/Xbox-One/Games/Call-of-Duty-Advanced-Warfare/40bbfa62-064c-4ff2-a861-dd82c109dfab
http://store.steampowered.com/app/209650/
MS store: £55, Steam: £40.
If this continues to be the case on Windows 10 with crossbuy, exclusive to the MS store or no, Microsoft will either need to negotiate lower prices with publishers on both their ecosystems, or watch as PC gamers buy their games anywhere else.
Anton Sugar
Member
Well, you will be able to play Halo 5 on your PC, but it would be streaming from your X1. I think for Crossbuy to work, the game has to be available for both platforms. I am guessing it would go something like this:
Titanfall, which is available on both platforms, is a good example. If it were Crossbuy, you could buy and play on X1, and then also play on PC.
Fable Legends, which is available on both platforms AND features cross-platform play, might be another.
Halo 5, which will be available on X1, can be streamed to your PC (or any W10 device) to play.
MS is looking into being able to stream PC games to your Xbox, too.
The Lamonster
Member
I'd love to be wrong about it!
Well I guess the argument will be , if you buy from the MS store for your PC version then you can play that on an Xbox One.
If that is of no use to you then you can buy it on steam.
Anton Sugar
Member
A HUGE part of Windows 10 is cross-platform app purchases--as in, they're redesigning almost their entire apps platform around it. I have to think crossbuy will be a part of this big push.
This. I have so many games I've bought on both platforms because friends play on console but I like PC.
Huh? It will be like that.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
I was literally just about to buy "This War of Mine" on Steam.... and now I'm going to wait for this.
I am guessing it will be up to the publisher to determine if they want their game to be cross buy like it is on the Playstation. And yeah, issue have already been brought up about price. PC games are usually cheaper than console games. Will people buy the game at a higher price if it has cross buy or will MS have to convince publishers to put the game up at a lower price and then lose out on some revenue when people buy it on the PC to play on their xbox
Hmm?
It's pretty prevalent on Sony's platform. Almost commonplace for all indies and digital titles.
Nintendo is just getting started, no doubt it's poor there.
I'm glad to see this is becoming more of a thing with all platforms.
Fair enough, and that's what i originally argued. It's fine MS having their own store for games, and for people with both Xbox One and a Windows 10 PC, it's grand.
But for PC gamers this may not be the greatest thing ever as some would appear to be reacting, especially if games are released that MS can keep exclusive to their store.
Ol No Bones
Banned
Cross play is neat, cross buy is amazing.
TheDarkTriforce
Banned
I believe that Sony will not support this crossbuy because they probably think it's a bad value for you like EA Access
Ingueferroque
Banned
Fantastic move.
This week in hypotheticals that have no reason to happen.
Ol No Bones
Banned
This is MS competing against steam really. I don't know how many people it would move but I know anyone who games on both XB1 and PC have little reason not to use the Microsoft store for games now. This is all depending on how reliable and intuitive the service is of course. It gives Xbox owners a reason to have a windows 10 device and it gives PC gamers a reason they might think about picking up an XB1.
Great games, really happy for Xbone users.
Still, both games will work best on PC (modding, Steam workshop etc.).
Agreed, that aspect of it is at least quite appealing.
A lot of people have both gaming PCs and X1's. Especially racing fans.
reptilescorpio
Member
Awesome news, the more CrossBuy products the better!
Indeed. This is really only worthwhile if Microsoft decides to take a greater interest in selling Xbone One games on PC with time parity of the console version, which really isn't in their best interest. So smaller games, indie games that are already planning for a PC release, sure, those might benefit from cross play. But your Halo's? Your Overdrives? Your Scalebounds? No way. There's no reason for Microsoft to take focus away from the Xbox One.
Without the will to support it well, this feels very empty.
Good news for PS4/PC owners lol
So business as usual?
^^ THIS ^^
Hold your proverbial horses, GAF.
We have absolutely no news on any major AAA third-party games. And it does not appear as though the company is partnering with Valve.
This is not a megaton until Microsoft gets the major players involved, in my opinion. ...End result is probably faster turnaround time for indies to get to Xbox One, which is nice I guess.
IcyRhythms
Member
So, this just means I'd be able to stream the content from their service or the Xbox One. Are there going to be actual PC releases for some of these games? Sunset Overdrive for example. Is there going to be a PC release with settings I can adjust and have run at 60FPS? Guess things like that are all up in the air at this point.
thelastword
Banned
Xbox Live on Windows 10 is cool. Streaming your xbox games to your windows pc is pretty neat too. I fear that crossbuy support may not be so great, like you I fear that the pc market may cannibalize the xbox market. However xbox owners will share a lot of functionality on pc.
Most likely.
That1BlackGuy
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DarthWalden
Banned
The digital sales on consoles have been just as aggressive as steam sales have been recently as more people move to digital and publishers start pushing these deals.
You do raise an interesting point though. For MS to be competitive on the PC platform they are going to have to match the prices on the steam store. Publishers are dealing with a closed system currently with the xbox/ps4 with little to no competition but if MS opens that up to the PC platform they will be forced to drop there prices to stay competitive.