It will probably be the same store.
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Crossbuy Support coming to Windows 10 and Xbox
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It will probably be the same store.
Chill Penguin
Member
You're really overestimating the console/pc overlap. It's quite small outside of an echochamber like neogaf. People are not going to stop buying xboxes because of this.
Anton Sugar
Member
Well, MS is attacking this from a few different angles, and I'm curious how they'll overlap.
They have crossplatform play planned, where an Xbox One user can play online with a PC player, for certain games.
They have crossbuy for games AND W10 apps, so once you buy a game/app, you can play it on any supported device.
They also have X1 streaming to ANY W10 device, including mobile. They're looking into being able to do the opposite, as well.
I have a few friends who have bought gaming PCs because of games they wanted to play--but they didn't convert and do 90% of their gaming on their Xbox still. Why? Community (all their friends play X1) and Controls (been using controllers all their lives, so PC gaming doesn't feel comfortable to them).
And even I have been guilty of comfy couch syndrome.
Goodacre0081
Member
well that's what I mean, small form factor PC's instead of the closed console. they might even open up to provide that service on platforms they consider competitors like Sony and Nintendo. a lot can change in 5 years.
I have major doubts this is going to apply for any big name releases. I doubt we will see a new PC version of Halo. It'll likely be just if it exists on PC you can have the game on both, many things wont go over still. Anyway Microsoft trying to exert control over the PC gaming market again makes me uncomfortable. If anything could kill the momentum PC gaming has its MS doing something really dumb.
I don't see how MS could do anything to hurt PC gaming. If whatever they do turns out to be a clusterfuck, Steam will still exist.
I dont see how it benefits PC gamers at all, its just trying to get people to buy X1's. Why would a PC gamer want to stream games from a console to the PC? Just play on the console if you have it, and if most who dont have one wont buy it for such a feature.
Yes im generalizing, but imo i think a lot of people will fall into this category.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
I'm down. sounds great but we shall see how widespread it is.
Goodacre0081
Member
if they don't go all in with their big IP's then it could very well turn out to be another GfWL. nobody will give it a serious look and we'll all stick with the current method. MS would be losing out on massive software sales despite having the Windows10 userbase at it's fingertips.
Memorabilia
Member
Sounds great. I'm down. Only "problem" I see is that while nice we don't know (yet) how many big, desirable games will actually be cross-buy/cross-play. Pinball games are cool and all but what gamers really want would be a PC port of Halo MCC, for example. How likely is that? Beyond this, the other hesitation I have is Steam integration, or lack thereof. Still, I like the potential of this and consider this sort of move to be a no-brainer that should have been worked towards years ago....
Saint of Killers
Member
I'm surprised it isn't X-Buy.
CrimsonEclipse
Member
Not gonna happen.
If it somehow does happen...it ain't going anywhere on the PC front.
What are you talking about? Crossbuy has nothing to do with streaming from Xbox One.
RadarScope1
Member
Do we really think they'd bring Halo to PC? Hasn't it been console exclusive for a while now? I don't see them bringing console games to the Win App Store.
BRocknRolla
Member
Cross-buy is great, but without actual compelling titles, there's not a value add here. (Unless you're looking for mobile gaming on a gaming laptop or something.)
They need to put the flagship titles on PC or this doesn't really matter, and I highly doubt that will happen, or would be in the Xbox's interest for that matter.
They need to put the flagship titles on PC or this doesn't really matter, and I highly doubt that will happen, or would be in the Xbox's interest for that matter.
The Artisan
Member
whoa, could this be a game changer?
Uncle Rupee
Banned
Is this Microsoft's soft exit strategy? Get Xbox customers to migrate back to PC?
I'm guessing a lot of titles won't support it. Otherwise there is literally no reason to buy an Xbox One if you can get all the same games on your PC, running better. They'd probably make a lot more money these days if they ditched the console but continued putting out wireless PC controllers and just became a game publisher.
I'm guessing a lot of titles won't support it. Otherwise there is literally no reason to buy an Xbox One if you can get all the same games on your PC, running better. They'd probably make a lot more money these days if they ditched the console but continued putting out wireless PC controllers and just became a game publisher.
ginger ninja
Banned
Good, now we won't have to buy those 5 games that are available on both Windows store for PC and xbox store separately.
Twin Tails
Member
if a 3rd party choose to do so
I don't know. Just curious what that person thought. We will find out by end of next year.
TheExecutive
Member
Good move. Hopefully a lot of titles support this. Good pro consumer move on MS part
Fallout-with-swords
Banned
This is a nice feature if a lot of developers decide to implement it on the Windows Store. But unless MS is going to start bringing their big exclusives to PC then it doesn't seem like a big deal. I could be wrong but I can't see why big AAA devs would bring their games to the Windows store if they are already on Steam. What benefit is it to them?
BRocknRolla
Member
What benefit would there be to those devs to do that? I doubt it will even be many 1st party games. At least not those that would actually drive Xbox sales. Unless of course the only way to get the PC version would be to buy the Xbox version and register it on the console. But that would be super weird.
You could ask that about any game that offers this on PlayStation.
They're adding value for the customer by allowing you to buy once play everywhere.
I would expect Microsoft to be courting devs/publishers to put games on the Windows Store with a smaller portion taken out by Microsoft rather than the typical 30%.
BRocknRolla
Member
A lot of stuff isn't crossbuy there as it is; mostly only small games that may not inspire buyers to pick up multiple copies as is. I totally see MS doing that, and that's s fine value add. I can't think of anything of the magnitude of the Witcher getting a crossbuy deal.
I doubt Microsoft would be stupid enough to try that again but you never know.
Yea I agree. Outside of something like a remaster and it being offered on PC and Xbox One, I don't see larger titles getting offered on crossbuy, at least right away.
Brad Grenz
Member
It's a dangerous gamble, though. Driving their customers back to PC where Steam is waiting with open arms isn't a path to profitability in the gaming space, but it is about as graceful an exit from the market as one might expect.
Yes
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
it sounds fine but the last thing I want to be tied to his Microsoft Online app store. Just give me the games on Steam and I'm a happy camper and please don't show up anymore of this stupid shit down our throat. I'm cautiously optimistic that this will work out but I will not be buying exclusive games on the Microsoft App Store unless they are given to me for free.
Why should they have to go through Steam? Is using another piece of software that much of big deal. The fact that they're more willing to port games over is a good sign and it seems like it'll have OS level integration. Even Steam can't claim that. I'm cautiously optimistic.
If any of the games have a strong multiplayer element, and they float the possibility of PC owners playing with Xbox owners, you know they'd at least consider it as it would all go through Gamertags and associated accounts.
That, or there are going to be a lot of annoyed Xbox players annoyed about the fact they're the only ones paying to play multiplayer.
They'd have to go full Mattrick to seriously consider it though.
texhnolyze
Banned
What does this mean?
Retail Xbox Ones will be unlocked as test kits later this year
Retail Xbox Ones will be unlocked as test kits later this year
They might convince third parties to support exclusively to the windows store for cross play bypassing steam etc. Oh and by the way there's price parity with consoles and you need to pay for online and don't hold your breath for any big sales.
That's one way I think they could fuck things up.
Will make Xbox One more dev friendly for hobby developers.
It's like how phones work, most phones can be dev-unlocked.
Caayn
Member
Fuck X for doing what Y is doing, but I love Y.
This is something I'll never understand. Then again I'm also one who isn't bothered by Uplay or Origin requirements for games.
This post is funny to me only because I can easily see this thread linked under 2015 in a few years
However I already have a gaming pc, ps4, and a wii u, this could get me to buy an xbox one if they are really dedicated to cross-buy but I am feeling very cautious when it comes to MS's promises about pc gaming.
The Xbox as a brand would serve a purpose. In the future they'll just want people in the Xbox ecosystem, doesn't matter what platform they're on or room they're in.
What is this "this" you are referring too?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Nah, I'm bothered by legitimately being burned by Microsoft last attempt to try to have their own slice of the pie on PC. Games for Windows Live was an aberration and I want no part in their ecosystem and would like any game they release to not be exclusive to the app store because I will simply not be supporting that because I don't want to. Not because I hate Microsoft but because I've had prior experiences and I know where I want most of my games. Origin is simply fine because at least their catalog has enough games that hook me personally but PC has steam and I love a bunch of competition but steam is who it is for a reason and that's where I will spend most of my money. Like Gcurious.
I'm pessimistic yet curious
Serious question here, maybe I am overlooking something;
Why would someone want to not just buy a Win10 console type PC system like one of the many coming out? You'll get the XB1 games and the huge PC library, and MS already crosses over a ton of XB account stuff onto PC, so you don't lose much. You also likely get the ability to play all those XB1 crossover games with better performance/gfx.
Maybe it will be a limited number of games, but most likely the majority of the 1st party XB1 exclusives.
This just seems to marginalize their console a ton.
I can see the adds now; Buy the Nvidia XX-Box: Plays all major XB1 games but with better graphics and speed, as well as the full steam library!
Why would someone want to not just buy a Win10 console type PC system like one of the many coming out? You'll get the XB1 games and the huge PC library, and MS already crosses over a ton of XB account stuff onto PC, so you don't lose much. You also likely get the ability to play all those XB1 crossover games with better performance/gfx.
Maybe it will be a limited number of games, but most likely the majority of the 1st party XB1 exclusives.
This just seems to marginalize their console a ton.
I can see the adds now; Buy the Nvidia XX-Box: Plays all major XB1 games but with better graphics and speed, as well as the full steam library!