People were afraid it meant the game would be locked at 30fps.
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Dark Souls PC 1080p. Confirmed, like, for real.
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People were afraid it meant the game would be locked at 30fps.
Ghost_Protocol
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Don't care about the Blighttown framerate. The place is terrible. I'm in and out as fast as humanly possible. Also, I have 100% confidence that the modding community will rip the goddamn game apart instantly after its released to find a way to fix the framerate. There's no way that's not going to happen.
Now, if the NEW areas have framerate issues, THAT would be fucking unforgivable.
Now, if the NEW areas have framerate issues, THAT would be fucking unforgivable.
CountAntonius
Member
I think the quote means the game is a straight port and they spent no time optimizing it further for PC's. I'm sure it will perform better than it did on consoles but not as good as it could have.
Well, some games are indeed locked at 30, but that would still be a massive improvement from the console versions. My original comment refereed to the irrational decision of limiting it to sub 20.
TouchMyBox
Member
An improvement, yes, but unacceptable nonetheless.
rohlfinator
Member
It sounds like they're trying to get the game out in a reasonable timeframe. If they pushed it into the holiday season it would get lost in the shuffle, and pushing it into next year is probably out of the question.
And seriously this "lazy devs" shit has got to stop.
I think the biggest problem is that even a console port when not properly optimized runs terrible even on good machines.
fluffydelusions
Member
Who knows. There isn't much going on really but arghhh that level is so annoying. You can probably youtube some videos of it.
That's a good question cause I'm now wondering if a publisher didn't take that over for them.
For what it's worth, Ninja Blade on PC had a 30fps/60fps toggle. In 60fps, at least for me, the animations would wig out and the main character would start warping around. If the game's framerate is locked to 30, I guess it might not matter if someone can unlock it if the game starts breaking down beyond that framerate.
DonasaurusRex
Online Ho Champ
may be able to eclipse that but it costs an arm and a leg. Sad thing is plenty of CRT flatscreen's did way more than that years ago LCD's are getting there but for now 1080P + TN matrix 60hz, is the bulk of the screens out there. Dell and HP do have sales though for higher rez and even ips panel screens....but all are 60hz far as i know.
Yeah. It admittedly is clear they're not putting the effort necessary for a really amazing port, BUT that's because of time constraints combined with making the new content. And no one really knows the issues people have with development.
It's an area where you gradually go down a cliffside to the bottom of a swamp, I think what's happening is that the game is actually rendering the entire area and much of it can be seen at once. Thus why a computer brute forcing it can solve it, I imagine a computer SLIing 690 or 680s could handle an area where the PS3 chokes.
I know, right? Not achieving the best possible results regardless of timeframe isn't being lazy, it's just reality. Do I wish we had confirmation of the best PC port to ever exist? Of course, but I'm willing to accept something less because they didn't have to give us at all.
It's a total cluster fuck of geometry and shit.
Add in some annoying flying insect creatures, plus a (poisoned) swamp you walk slowly through, and confusing level design, and you have a nightmare of an area.
But really if the framerate weren't so bad, it would be 200% more tolerable.
Sentenza
Member
No one asked for a rushed job and no one ever expected or demanded new content; if that was the trade-off, it's not a good one.
Beside, the time frame is their problem. They can't expect people to be happy with what they are stating, when it essentially translates in "Well, good or bad, we are going to launch this shit anyway in a couple of months, so cross your fingers".
Beside the fact that no one here talked about "lazy devs"... No, it doesn't.
If that makes you angry.... Well, deal with your anger.
Elitists unite!
Or just accept that the PC version wasn't meant to be. That the devs are frankly lacking in experience to deliver a proper PC product. Their is skill is better served for creating more content or maybe even the start of a new game. Though too early to tell, this seems like a waste of time for everyone involved.
To hell with that.
Even if a resolution and stable framerate are all I get out of it, I still want the port. Everyone else is free to complain to Namco, but I don't need to be deprived of the game in the mean time if the alternative is "no PC Dark Souls".
dragonlife
Member
They're not going to fix the Blighttown issue? Or at least make it less of an issue? Hmm. Well, I'm still buying it regardless, because I've been holding out on the console versions for the PC version, which would be the better choice for me.
Getting to play the game with greatly improved IQ and framerate on my preferred platform doesn't sound like a waste to me.
I guess the shots in the PC screenshot thread will ultimately make that very clear.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Wait, what? Artorias of the Abyss DLC for PS3/360? So that would be the extra content the PC version is getting?
Grinchy
Banned
No way! It's one of the most interesting and unique areas in the game. It's a highlight of the experience IMO. Same with The Depths.
dragonlife
Member
PC versions gets it first included in the game. Consoles later as DLC.
Yeah, but depending on how good the port is, improved IQ and framerate only applies to a limited range of machines.
I'm just for expertise being properly utilized. Honestly if we are ending up with quick and dirty port anyway, why bother From Software with it?
Yeah.
Most displays that go beyond 1080p are still just LCDs and therefore less than top-end (unless of course you're using a super high-end CRT).
Enjoy your LCD then. I can hardly stomach them myself for serious gaming.
Typographenia
Member
I'm prepared
to die
Because now they'll actually have some experience on PC and maybe become a little more familiar with it.
Either way, I want to play this game and don't intend to buy it on 360 so I'm glad a port is coming, shoddy or not.
rohlfinator
Member
Well, an awful lot of people seem excited about the new content. I don't know if they demanded it, but the interest is there.
And the timeframe is just a reality of the market. It's kind of unrealistic to petition a publisher to port a game to a platform (which they're not very comfortable with and didn't initially deem worthwhile to release the game on) and then expect them to release the game so late that everyone will have forgotten about it.
Maybe you could explain what "this doesn't sound like they are trying too hard" means then?
How many Japanese developers are familiar with modern PC development? How many have actually put out good PC ports of their games (by western PC standards)? The only one I can think of is Capcom and that's probably because of the nature of their engine.
They make 1080p crts?
Good point, who cares if we get bad ports? At least we get it! Have no fear if they do a quick port now, they will do a better job next time!
Ghost_Protocol
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rohlfinator
Member
Kind of sounds like they just mean they're not specifically optimizing it any further. But there's a quote in the other thread that says it'll run as well as the rest of the game, so I dunno. :/
Agreed. Personally, as long as it doesn't run worse than the console versions and GFWL doesn't do anything crazy, I'll be pretty satisfied.
I wonder if that does confirm a FPS lock? Or if the guy is ignorant/saw it running on a 690 or something.
Brofist
Member
Hell just get someone who can properly describe the PC port who actually know what they are talking about.
I have a hard time believing that even a very unoptimised port couldn't be brute forced to run at an acceptable frame rate on PCs.
This just in, entire game has a 5fps lock.