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[Craig of War]

“When a manufacturer offers two consoles with different specs, there is a strong chance that most developers will focus on the lower-end version to avoid doing two different versions,” Cage suggested.

“I must confess that I am really not a big fan of this situation. I think it is confusing for developers, but also for players, and although I can understand the commercial reasons behind this choice, I think the situation is questionable.”

 

[transformer]

Wait until he hears about PCs and how much the specs vary.

 

[Swift Hunta]

Brain dead fanboys incoming.......

 

[M1chl]

It's confusing to me, why someone like David Cage still talking.

 

[Warnen]

Don't tell this fella about phones, might have a break down.

 

[kretos]

 

[MrFunSocks]

Ah yes, guy that heads studio that makes PlayStation exclusives is concerned about Xbox. Shocking.

 

[Hendrick's]

Hey Dave, go back to fapping to photoshoped images of your employees and leave next gen to the pros.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

It's confusing to me, why someone like David Cage still talking.

He's a video game designer. He certainly has merit to talk about video games and the development process.

One may not always agree with what he is saying but he has the credentials.

 

[CRAIG667]

The same way an Xbox one s and an Xbox one X is confusing or a PS4 and a PS4 pro?

Shurrrrup David.

 

[The Pleasure]

Did someone photoshop mirokus wind tunnel on the series s?

 

[M1chl]

He's a video game designer. He certainly has merit to talk about video games and the development process.

One may not always agree with what he is saying but he has the credentials.

I do recognize that, however my post was created by my blind hatred towards this person.

 

[Slurpy2k20]

He's not wrong. There is no question the existence of series S is going to compromise xbox and multiplat next gen games, as that will be the lowest common denominator.

 

[GHG]

This thread so far:

 

[kretos]

Ah yes, guy that heads studio that makes PlayStation exclusives is concerned about Xbox. Shocking.

Sony dropped them, their next game is multiplatform

 

[01011001]

"David Cage still thinks he is a game developer"

fixed the headline

 

[Hawking Radiation]

He's not wrong. There is no question the existence of series S is going to compromise xbox and multiplat next gen games, as that will be the lowest common denominator.

 

[MrFunSocks]

Sony dropped them, their next game is multiplatform

He's trying to get back on that sony teat.

 

[NullZ3r0]

Someone tell Nvidia and AMD to stop making all these graphics cards.

 

[01011001]

Someone tell Nvidia and AMD to stop making all these graphics cards.

and don't get me started with those Intel CPUs!

 

[Rockman33]

This is the same story we’ve heard from 5-10 developers and every time it gets its own thread. Is this really necessary?

 

[Fbh]

Dave is just sad some people will have to go through the next 6-7 years with 1440p emotions instead of native 4K emotions

 

[junguler]

pro and one x didn't confuse anyone, why would this be any different?

 

[TheMay30thMan]

Gosh, I'd really hope devs know the difference between two consoles. Gamers on the other hand, completely understandable for them to be confused.

 

[Azelover]

The fact it's a single internal spec configuration throughout, definitely gives Sony the edge when it comes to the overall results.

The Sony side is gonna have more customization happening, inevitably. And that makes a difference. So I think David Cage has a point, to a certain extent.

 

[Warnen]

Maybe he think all developers are as dumb as he is, 2 options is one to many duuuuurrrrrrr

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

He’s right. It’s confusing to the average consumer and unnecessary imo.

 

[Lone Wolf]

He’s right. It’s confusing and unnecessary imo.

What are you confused about? Let us help.

 

[blastprocessor]

But 1440p and same CPU will mean games are easy to port.
We'll see soon.

 

[Clear]

He's absolutely right.

My suspicion is devs will start by targeting PS5/PC, scope down if needed for Series S due to memory concerns, then ramp up that build on the gpu side for Series X.

Its just not ideal.

 

[Papacheeks]

Ah yes, guy that heads studio that makes PlayStation exclusives is concerned about Xbox. Shocking.

His titles are on PC too now.

 

[Three]

The same way an Xbox one s and an Xbox one X is confusing or a PS4 and a PS4 pro?

Shurrrrup David.

What the hell do you think happened with the xbox one X and ps4 pro? Exactly what he said:

“When a manufacturer offers two consoles with different specs, there is a strong chance that most developers will focus on the lower-end version to avoid doing two different versions,”

Most of the time the One X got the One S versions at higher res to the point where foliage or whatever present in the PS4 version were missing from the One X version. The PS4 Pro got the same crap. A lower spec machine becomes the bar and only easy wins are gained with res/fps . The saving grace this gen is that there is only one PlayStation 5 spec that is relatively close to Xbox Series X. It will have a big install base so PS5 being lead platform porting to Series X at slightly higher res/fps and then down to Series S is viable if annoying. If Sony pulls the same shit that MS is doing now too come next gen the higher spec versions will be screwed.

Maybe he think all developers are as dumb as he is, 2 options is one to many duuuuurrrrrrr

Hur dur, shut up. His games may or may not be fun or even games depending on the person but you cannot deny they are graphical/technical marvels.

 

[El Pistolero]

It will be interesting to see wat the majority of publishers’ approach is going to be for the next 6 years or so, and whether they will port up using the Series S version as the main one, or port down from either one of the two top-end machines.

 

[Hey Blinkin]

I can understand the average, uninformed consumer being confused, but are there really devs that are confused??

 

[AgentP]

What are you confused about? Let us help.

Confusing to the consumers and more work for the developers.

 

[Fart Knight]

 

[eot]

What are you confused about? Let us help.

The naming / branding is horrible and is gonna confuse the fuck out of anyone doesn't live and breathe this shit.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Confusing to the consumers and more work for the developers.

You are a consumer. Are you confused? Can we get an example of someone confused? Does the current gen confuse people? Both Sony and MS have 2 consoles. What about PC? Does that confuse people?

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

What are you confused about? Let us help.

It’s actually not me, but the average consumer would be confused. Also, it’s extra work for the developers. Look what happened when people were buying the One X instead of the Series X.

 

[Krappadizzle]

I bet David Cage thinks a lot of things are confusing.


love you David Cage, never change.

 

[rofif]

If you are a developer and changing the res to 1440p after finishing X build is hard for you to understand... Go work in a hot dog booth

 

[Warnen]

Hur dur, shut up. His games may or may not be fun or even games depending on the person but you cannot deny they are graphical/technical marvels.

Wonder how he got the last one done when it was on PS4, PS4 pro and PC.... TO MUCH CONFUSION!

PS:
I actually love his games, I enjoy the story based games like his stuff, dontnod and telltales games

 

[Birdo]

The Codemasters guy said that porting from Series X to S was as simple as just tweaking some settings. So if a small UK dev can do it, I can't see others having trouble.

 

[Lone Wolf]

I’m not confused. The average consumer would be confused. Look what happened when people were buying the One X instead of the Series X.

I doubt that was very many people at all, and that’s not what this thread is about.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

He's absolutely right.

 

[Aguero9320]

Another gaming dinosaur soon to be extinct

 

[Three]

Wonder how he got the last one done when it was on PS4, PS4 pro and PC.... TO MUCH CONFUSION!

PS:
I actually love his games, I enjoy the story based games like his stuff, dontnod and telltales games

Exactly as he suggested. He focused on the PS4 version then gained easy res bumps for the Pro.

 

[Xenon]

Man who makes games that give virtue people different choices thinks that's too complicated for real ones.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

You are a consumer. Are you confused? Can we get an example of someone confused? Does the current gen confuse people? Both Sony and MS have 2 consoles. What about PC? Does that confuse people?

I'm confuses that you're confused at him being confused.

This is all confusing.

 

[RPSleon]

The naming / branding is horrible and is gonna confuse the fuck out of anyone doesn't live and breathe this shit.

No it wont. People understand phone hierarchy just fine and thats way more complicated.