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David Cage thinks having two next-gen Xbox consoles is ‘confusing for developers and players’
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Codies aren't small. Unless you call 700+ employees and at least 3 sites small.
DrScissorsMD
Banned
Oh cool this discussion again.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
i mean i have been saying this forever. i remember when the PRO launched, everyone was upset because they thought the pro would get vastly better graphics and the base ps4 games would be treated like a bastard child. needless to say, that didnt happen and devs did not use the extra horsepower for anything more than a few extra pixels.
devs will always code for the lowest common denominator. its why no third party dev is gonna use that 5.5 gbps ssd of ps5. i was hoping the ps5 10 tflops would be the base next gen but if history is any indication and now that a developer has all but confirmed, it will be the 4 tflops xss.
The rest of the quote is conveniently left out
"Regarding Quantic Dream, as we develop our own technology and engines, we are determined to optimize our titles for each platform. Being now a PC developer, we are implementing scalable features based on the platform, which is very helpful to highlight what the hardware has best to offer."
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"Regarding Quantic Dream, as we develop our own technology and engines, we are determined to optimize our titles for each platform. Being now a PC developer, we are implementing scalable features based on the platform, which is very helpful to highlight what the hardware has best to offer."
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DavidGzz
Member
It won't be because of Series S as much as it will be because MS will be putting their games on PC. PS5 may have an advantage of requiring a super fast SSD.
Elder Legend
Banned
I think David Cage is an overrated piece of shit writer and his games also suck donkey's left nuts.
Balducci30
Member
I’m surprised he thinks at all
sendit
Member
They could be on to something. However, let’s play arm chair developer and downplay actual developers.
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sendit
Member
It’s a good idea from a customer stand point. Specifically the price point. 499$ is a pretty hard sell for some. 299$ Is a much easier pill to swallow for most.
However, I have not heard anything positive from developers regarding the power diff between the XSX and XSS.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
How could it confuse consumers?
Major Nelson has a couple of times called the Series X an Xbox One X.
Digital Foundry labeled a video of XSX gameplay as Xbox One X.
But how could consumers possibly get confused?
I mean the average mom walking into WalMart to buy her kid a new console at Christmas will surely know exactly all the differences and if not the WalMart worker covering electronics (who usually works the crafts dept) will surely know, right?
Major Nelson has a couple of times called the Series X an Xbox One X.
Digital Foundry labeled a video of XSX gameplay as Xbox One X.
But how could consumers possibly get confused?
I mean the average mom walking into WalMart to buy her kid a new console at Christmas will surely know exactly all the differences and if not the WalMart worker covering electronics (who usually works the crafts dept) will surely know, right?
Nhranaghacon
Banned
What's confusing is, Dev's making games for the lesser console - specifically and snubbing the more powerful console. They cite that they do it because gamer's don't know better? Most do. But more importantly Dev's KNOW if they're snubbing a more powerful machine and making games less visually impressive. THAT is confusing. Why hold back gaming and the potential of your own game because a weaker machine is on the market?
I don't like this guy's attitude - in fact his thinking is completely flawed.
I don't like this guy's attitude - in fact his thinking is completely flawed.
Yoboman
Member
Honestly, I think it will be so supply limited that it will be sold out for the better part of a year and probably not heavily replenished. In the end it will still be the same group of hardcore gamers investing that would invest in a more expensive console. I think it will eventually get phased out and Series X will become the base console
I suspect they created it out of fear of losing out on price again, and its really just there to act as a marketing slogan - "starting at $299".
If they had consulted devs I think very few would have said its a great idea
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
He talks about different consoles, yet probably 90% of games at launch are cross gen with old and new PS and Xbox systems anyway.
And his point and click games basically span almost 10 years of PC parts. Who knew a handful of consoles is confusing, but a million configs aren't.
What Do You Need to Run These Games?
Despite the fact that the oldest Quantic Dream game coming is nine years old, all three games have identical requirements. Interestingly, the recommended requirements are quite steep, needing a GTX 1080 to run. Although the CPU requirement is not particularly high, needing only a 2nd-gen Core CPU i7 equivalent.
Minimum
And his point and click games basically span almost 10 years of PC parts. Who knew a handful of consoles is confusing, but a million configs aren't.
System Requirements for Quantic Dream Games on PC Revealed
Detroit: Become Human, Beyond: Two Souls, and Heavy Rain News of Quantic Dream's games heading to the PC was revealed last week. Jumping from exclusivity on the Sony PlayStation 4 and into the PC exclusivity of the EPIC Games Store. Now the company has revealed what hardware is necessary to run...
www.eteknix.com
What Do You Need to Run These Games?
Despite the fact that the oldest Quantic Dream game coming is nine years old, all three games have identical requirements. Interestingly, the recommended requirements are quite steep, needing a GTX 1080 to run. Although the CPU requirement is not particularly high, needing only a 2nd-gen Core CPU i7 equivalent.
Minimum
- OS: Windows 7-64 bits
- Procesor: i5-2400 @ 3.4GHz or equivalent
- System Memory: 4GB RAM
- Graphics: nVidia GTX 660 or equivalent
- VRAM: 2GB
- OS: Windows 10-64 bits
- Procesor: I7-2700K or equivalent
- System Memory: 12GB RAM
- Graphics: nVidia GTX 1080 or equivalent
- VRAM: 8GB
Hawking Radiation
Member
Yup.
Not too long ago someone tweeted that Xbox One X interest skyrocketed after the Xbox Series X reveal, I quoted that tweet and got mocked by a certain crowd of people.
One warrior even labelled twitter users as dumb or stupid for getting the two consoles mixed up.
Of course this is just regarding the naming convention of the different Xbox's and not the development process for games on these machines. In that area I don't have an opinion. I'm sure the devs will be fine to deal with 2 SKU's
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
If people can tell the difference buying a Sony TVs among the million code names, I'm pretty sure a handful of consoles is fine to understand.
Good luck sorting through these.
Dr Bass
Member
Haven't you seen the size of his scripts?
AllBizness
Banned
PS5 exclusive incoming.
xellos2099alpha
Member
He is pretty useless, he himself claim, after losing wind tunnel
The Pleasure
Member
The power of X took away his sucky hand.
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
I mean, David Cage is still confusing games with movies, so this isn't too much of a stretch. I enjoyed Heavy Rain for the novelty and who doesn't enjoy Willem Dafoe chewing the scenery of *anything* he's in like he's a starving "My Strange Addiction," guest, but
Playing David Cage games is sort of like reading those choose your own adventure Goosebumps books, except R.L. Stine's sub-literature aimed at 8 year olds who are held at proverbial gunpoint into sustained silent reading is probably a notch above the offerings of Indigo Prophecy.
What was this topic about?
Playing David Cage games is sort of like reading those choose your own adventure Goosebumps books, except R.L. Stine's sub-literature aimed at 8 year olds who are held at proverbial gunpoint into sustained silent reading is probably a notch above the offerings of Indigo Prophecy.
What was this topic about?
Knitted Knight
Banned
Codename Cage saying what must be said.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
So they can choose, if they were told get an xbox series x, they will ask for series x. If there told series s, they will get an s.
If they were just told "the new xbox", even a moron can guess the more expensive one is the better one. (They can decide if kid or budget deserves/allows) First thing most
Parents ask is "how much".
There won't be any xbox one x on the shelf to confuse (they are already gone), and I'm assuming at most stores there also won't be xbox one's left either or will be blown out for black Friday at $149-199.
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captainraincoat
Banned
well thats pretty easy to think like that when most of your games are controlled by 1 or 2 buttons
Dolomite
Member
As if he'll ever in life to develope for it. Such a random take from a CEO
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Compsiox
Banned
They're obviously going for money and marketshare here. Devs are definitely not the priority here.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
Developers? David Cage is an idiot
Omnipunctual Godot
Gold Member
Do you remember seeing Xbox One X consoles selling out when Xbox Series X preorders went up? I do.
I hope you are right but i doubt it. Initially XSX will outsell XSS because enthusiasts are early adopters but the XSS has a good chance to outsell the XSX in the long run. Look at X1X vs X1S, which was abandoned and discontinued? XBOX one X not the S.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Most confusing is porting to PC.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
How confusing is it when there are no XB1 consoles to buy? What will be the 'concern' then?
MiguelItUp
Member
It's really not that big of a deal.
of course this is left out.
JerryinSoCal
Member
Wait until you find out that PC gamers and console gamers aren't generally the same group.
ultrazilla
Gold Member
NEVER FORGET little Jimmy thinks he's getting a Series X for Christmas......
Xbox One X Sales Skyrocket As Preorders For Xbox Series X Go Live
Xbox One X sales randomly skyrocketed today. Coincidentally, it's the same day Xbox Series X preorders went live.
www.gameinformer.com
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
NEVER FORGET little Jimmy thinks he's getting a Series X for Christmas......
Xbox One X Sales Skyrocket As Preorders For Xbox Series X Go Live
Xbox One X sales randomly skyrocketed today. Coincidentally, it's the same day Xbox Series X preorders went live.
This crap again? It was like 2 consoles, it moved up based on percentage of rank, not sales.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
I'm confused, are you arguing the point or just agreeing? If there are no XB1 consoles in the store, it's easy, you buy an xbox series S or an xbox series X.
