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David Hayter not reprising his role as Snake in Metal Gear Solid 5? Statement
- Thread starter Mr. RHC
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MisterHero
Super Member
Just because he isn't in this game doesn't exclude him from future games. Hopefully there wasn't a falling out or something
Except that they never use the same soundclip. He record new voice clip for every game. This guy also does the voice of Wario, Luigi, Warluigi and Paarthurnax from Elderscroll.
He also does Lagerfeld from Resonance of Fate, Orvus from Ratchet and Clank, and he was the announcer in Punch Out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Martinet
Giant track record.
The Mana Legend
Banned
Yeah, I guess that's true.
In fact, the girl that played Eve nearly ruined the ending of MGS3 for me with her "crying."
MaverickHunterX
Member
Means nothing. I'm two types of Canadian, and very polite, and a bunch of people hate my guts...
Back to point, I can't picture a MGS game without him...hope this is a big joke...
Lionel Mandrake
Member
Wait, is Hayter dubbing the English audio for the Snake's Soul DLC in MGR?
LAntConroy
Neo Member
Man it will be weird without David Hayter
The Dev of Fez is also a canadian...
Yeah, this, combined with how much of a troll Kojima is known to be, really gives me second thoughts on this situation. In an ideal world, they would have informed him of their decision to get another actor. Even though this is not always the case, I still think KojiPro would have handled any parting much more peacefully and without burning bridges. Hayter wanting more money is possible... But I don't see that coming from a guy who voluntarily split his paycheck just so he could assemble the original cast for TT.
At the very least, I'm going to see what Keighley's interview brings. If they deliberately skip on the question, then I will probably think something is up.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
Member
That sword isn't even in the English version. JP exclusive.
Can Crusher
Banned
I only liked him in MGS1. He's a crappy actor.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
I think it's more that they want to be a bigger presence in the West altogether.
The open world design and KojiPro forming their own LA studio to develop the multiplayer aspect of the game support this just as much as casting a Hollywood actor in the lead.
I don't think he is. I think people are just used to him and he's been kept around for legacy's sake as a result.
I don't think anyone will miss Hayter 2 Metal Gear games from now if this replacement sticks
There's a reason why he doesn't do much else in the way of voice acting besides Solid Snake. and that reason is he's not very good.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
!
#team KojimaHijinx
DukeTogo1300
Member
...no I don't. I said they fit, not that this is some smirking post-anime age spoof. It is what it is, and Hater fits perfectly within the NA cast.
And that is fair enough, but that doesn't mean we should retroactively devour Hater's past performances.
AgentOtaku
Member
funkystudent
Member
Remember when David said he didn't like the ending to MGS4?
Maybe this is Kojima's revenge
Maybe this is Kojima's revenge
Robot Pants
Member
He was fine in 3.
He sounded over the top in 4 because he had to sound older and like he was dying. Not his fault. Normal Snake voice is just fine.
He sounded over the top in 4 because he had to sound older and like he was dying. Not his fault. Normal Snake voice is just fine.
Come on people, he'll still voice Snake dont worry about it. MGS 4 had different actors for Snake and Big Boss. I would not be surprised if Kojima pulls us a MGS 2 again. Small/big portion playing Big Boss. Small/big portion playing Solid Snake.
Also Kojima knows how people feel about Hayter. And another also, at the end of MGS Meryl asks Snake what his real name is and he says David.
Kojima is not going to ditch all that.
Trust Raiden.
Also Kojima knows how people feel about Hayter. And another also, at the end of MGS Meryl asks Snake what his real name is and he says David.
Kojima is not going to ditch all that.
Trust Raiden.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
I can't speak for everyone but I've felt this way since MGS4
I appreciate the guy and what he's done for the franchise.(Particularly taking a pay cut for Twin Snakes in order to bring the rest of the cast back as well. Always thought that was really awesome of him.)
but I'm not about to delude myself into thinking that his performances were something special or that no one else can do the character because of that alone.
It sucks for him and I feel bad for the guy but I'm a Metal Gear fan, not a Hayter one, and I'm excited to see the end result of all these direction shifts for the franchise. It definitely needed something like this after 4.
Red Chocobo
Banned
That sounds like it should be an awesome game.
Smelly Tramp
Member
its blatantly going to be that snake is in the game.
i'm not quite sure about the ages of both and such, but imagine if big boss & snake had a scene together in mgsv, like how goofy would it be just hayter's voice going back and forth.
or if the age gap is too much and they wont meet, well maybe it jumps back and forward in time from big boss to snake, and well if hayter voiced both that would be just confusing for the player, especially newcomers to mgs.
i'm not quite sure about the ages of both and such, but imagine if big boss & snake had a scene together in mgsv, like how goofy would it be just hayter's voice going back and forth.
or if the age gap is too much and they wont meet, well maybe it jumps back and forward in time from big boss to snake, and well if hayter voiced both that would be just confusing for the player, especially newcomers to mgs.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Well if they are doing that Hayter doesn't know about it yet lol
(I don't think they're doing that)
If they were going to go through all that trouble they would still have Hayter as the lead Snake, not the secondary one. (Since your scenario is purely contrived as a way for Hayter to be in the game in the first place)
Doesn't make any sense why they'd cast Sutherland and announce him as the lead only to have him be second banana to David Hayter in the end
I can't imagine an MGS game without David Hayter as Snake.
Then again, I couldn't imagine people being excited for MGS 5 at all after what they did with 4. I'd prefer a reboot of MGS. Give them a chance to wipe the slate clean and keep the story from turning into the incomprehensible convoluted mess we have now.
Then again, I couldn't imagine people being excited for MGS 5 at all after what they did with 4. I'd prefer a reboot of MGS. Give them a chance to wipe the slate clean and keep the story from turning into the incomprehensible convoluted mess we have now.
Robot Pants
Member
No need for a complete reboot. There are 3 out of 4 great games.
Just remake MG1 and 2.
I'd be more excited about that.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
I think they have the room to do that here.
It'd be interesting if instead of trying to fit this game into the existing canon they decided to branch it off into a completely different timeline.
Because there's gotta be more to it than LOL IT WAS ALL JUST A DREAM
Part of the charm of Metal Gear is its ridiculous, over the top storyline, which bleeds into the gameplay. If you reboot within the current MG universe, you're not solving your problem, and if you start all over with a more streamlined story, it's Metal Gear in name only.
To all those hating on Hayter. Have you heard Snake's new voice in the trialers and gameplay. He sounds like a generic 20 year old anime character now. He doesn't sound older at all. HE sounds terrible. Not like a battle hardened solider at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw5t45tEPWQ
Listen to Snake at the end of the trailer. You can hate on Hayter all you want and I don't mind a replacement if it's good and captures The Big Boss/Solid Snake feel but this is just bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw5t45tEPWQ
Listen to Snake at the end of the trailer. You can hate on Hayter all you want and I don't mind a replacement if it's good and captures The Big Boss/Solid Snake feel but this is just bad.
Smelly Tramp
Member
Well he's not going to ruin the surprise on his twitter account is he, if kojima has told him to button it or deny all knowledge he will.
Maybe the game is 2/3's big boss, and 1/3 snake or something, or snake just has a few levels, therefore keifer would still be the lead
i dunno, if hayter had truly stopped voicing snake through such an iconic series i think he'd make a proper statement saying how hes enjoyed working with kojima and mgs staff etc but have had to part ways due to such and such and blah blah blah.
Yes, also commonly referred to as just "Boss" by Kaz or "Commandante" by Amanda and Chico and some other nick names.
One interesting thing though
Even after the ending of chapter 4, not the final ending, Snake told Kaz to call him Big Boss from now on, however he still called im Snake througout the rest of the game, including chapter 5 and its ending.
I knew this day would come someday, Retro_... why'd you go and just slap an underscore on my name, now people are going to be confused.
I'm gonna have to disagree. I think it's a bit closer to what happened with the Star Wars prequels; respectable actors (NOT Hayden Christensen) chewing on terrible lines written by a 'visionary director' lost in his own head. Hayter's voice acting has been fairly consistent, but the games themselves have just been getting weirder and weirder and it's hard to be convincing when you're delivering lines like that.
Also, what makes you think Sutherland will stick around to keep doing the games? He tends to be a pretty busy guy and they may not be able to get him back, especially if the money isn't right. And then what?
Um, what? He did the VA for the Jedi Knight in The Old Republic, which set records for the amount of VA involved (not to mention that's a pretty popular class too). Plus all the MGS games. Plus all of the screenwriting he does. I don't think you can base the quality of his performance based on the quantity of his performances. In fact, it kind of sabotages your point; his bio may not be huge, but he's consistently busy because of Metal Gear games; he's basically the voice of Solid Snake.
I'm gonna have to disagree. I think it's a bit closer to what happened with the Star Wars prequels; respectable actors (NOT Hayden Christensen) chewing on terrible lines written by a 'visionary director' lost in his own head. Hayter's voice acting has been fairly consistent, but the games themselves have just been getting weirder and weirder and it's hard to be convincing when you're delivering lines like that.
Also, what makes you think Sutherland will stick around to keep doing the games? He tends to be a pretty busy guy and they may not be able to get him back, especially if the money isn't right. And then what?
Um, what? He did the VA for the Jedi Knight in The Old Republic, which set records for the amount of VA involved (not to mention that's a pretty popular class too). Plus all the MGS games. Plus all of the screenwriting he does. I don't think you can base the quality of his performance based on the quantity of his performances. In fact, it kind of sabotages your point; his bio may not be huge, but he's consistently busy because of Metal Gear games; he's basically the voice of Solid Snake.
blainethemono
Member
cheststrongwell
my cake, fuck off
His voice work only got better after MGS 1. You people are crazy!
I really really hope this choice was made because Big Boss was getting older and so they decided to give him the MGS4 voice because i really can't play with a Snake without David Hayter... he IS Snake. Hell MGS is the only saga where i prefer the english voice acting to the japanese but if Hayter is really gone even for future games i think that I'll probably play with japanese voices... I'm not totally used to them but they are somewhat familiar.
Really? He is just a voice actor who reads from a script. They could get anyone who sounds a little like him and you would never know the difference.
Not the same as far as I can tell.
Also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52ngbRyoAPw
Sounds just like the voice from the gameplay just not as dazed.
I will withhold complete judgement until I get some proof-postive lines of dialog from Big Boss. So far though I'm not impressed.
Discotheque
Banned
So it's big boss in this game and not snake right?
If so I'm fine with the voice change. Kind of wasn't a fan of giving big boss snakes voice anyways
If so I'm fine with the voice change. Kind of wasn't a fan of giving big boss snakes voice anyways
Whiteshirt
Member
Yes, its definitely Miller. Its the same voice you hear for hours in Peacewalker, its definitely not Big Boss' voice.
Smelly Tramp
Member
yeh same, just screamed of trying to appease fans after everyone was pissed over raiden in mgs2.
DukeTogo1300
Member
Not expecting anyone to delude themselves here, I don't think his performances were anything special. He played those roles at the level I think was expected of him, and allowed Kojima to realize his vision. If Kojima wants to raise his standards on the NA end with V, that is an admirable goal, but I think Hayter was easily delivering according to past standards, standards that waned as the series progressed.
I'm not sure I like it though. It felt weird when Castlevania took on a distinctively western tone with LoS, and I would expect to feel just as put-off if MGS ends up feeling that way. I know Kojima was always chasing western influence, so I will keep that in mind. I just always found his NA stuff charming and consistent enough to resist any major changes, and I'm surprised Kojima feels it is necessary.
As far as Hayter getting along, I'm sure he will be fine. This isn't about liking the guy or being a fan, it is about what I perceive as judging him unfairly.
You don't even know of what are you talking about do you?
Also yes for me his voice is one of the most important things of the saga so if he is missing but his character isn't it can be a dealbreaker.
You can live without his voice acting? Good for you and enjoy the game but don't try to make it look like a minor thing to the people who care about this stuff ffs.