ozz ex machina
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Where are the fuckers who slagged off micro for their policy on halo infinite? All Sonys big titles are xgen too it seems.
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David Jaffe: I’m sure the next God of War will be PS4 PS5, of course it will!
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Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
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vaibhavpisal
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That and it's perhaps Alanah Pearce's first literary masterpiece.
Odds are stacking against it. Jaffe must be glad he is out of the shit storm.
Odds are stacking against it. Jaffe must be glad he is out of the shit storm.
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Alebrije
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There will be a lot more PS4 on homes than PS5 by the time GOWR releases . Also played GOW on base PS4 and was great talking about gameplay and performance.
So it will be a mistake release this game only to PS5. Pretty sure the studio will deliver the best GOWR for PS4 , PS4 Pro and PS5. They are not CDPR.
So it will be a mistake release this game only to PS5. Pretty sure the studio will deliver the best GOWR for PS4 , PS4 Pro and PS5. They are not CDPR.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
This is a good point that I never thought of. And I LOVED God of War 2 on the PS2.
LordOfChaos
Member
He doesn't work with them anymore, and Jim Ryan has /not/ pretty much said as much. He said the PS4 would be supported for years, but did not preclude PS5 exclusives. We don't know either way about GoW yet.
Shmunter
Member
Jesus Wept, I’m the first wanting cross gen to die but your post attacking Jaffe is below the belt - for what?
abacab driver
Banned
Ragnarok is already confirmed cross-gen.
The real question for me is: is it going to be a proper sequel or another 'standalone experience' ala Miles Morales? (I wonder the same about Horizon Forbidden West).
I remember one of the devs spoke about working on a literal Ragnarok DLC.
Either way, it'll be a day one..but I'd prefer a proper follow up.
The real question for me is: is it going to be a proper sequel or another 'standalone experience' ala Miles Morales? (I wonder the same about Horizon Forbidden West).
I remember one of the devs spoke about working on a literal Ragnarok DLC.
Either way, it'll be a day one..but I'd prefer a proper follow up.
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FlyyGOD
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We believe in generations.
Matt_Fox
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I guess David Jaffe might read this so I'll say it...
God Of War used to be better. For me, I preferred the series in the Noughties when it was about fast-paced arcade action in the spirit of Ninja Gaiden and Bayonetta.
This new 'cinematic story' iteration, whilst still excellent at what it does don't get me wrong, is just not as fun. What used to be hi-octane has become a slow trudge.
God Of War used to be better. For me, I preferred the series in the Noughties when it was about fast-paced arcade action in the spirit of Ninja Gaiden and Bayonetta.
This new 'cinematic story' iteration, whilst still excellent at what it does don't get me wrong, is just not as fun. What used to be hi-octane has become a slow trudge.
abstract alien
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Whatever it takes to get a 60fps option. Great fluidity and animations shouldn't have to suffer any longer. There is enough power and knowledge out there to deliver both great visuals and great motion in an actual gameplay setting at this point.
OrionNebula
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(Not really. Don’t really care if it is, honestly. I know where I’ll play it)
PooBone
Member
I'm not claiming insider info. And if he does have friends at top positions in Sony, don't you think they'd know, as professionals with an agenda, to keep their info close to the chest around such a loudmouthed internet podium-speaker?
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Hudo
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Fair enough, that makes sense.
Chukhopops
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Don’t forget Anthony « butt stallion » Burch, bringing some Borderlands vibe to it
Magog.
Banned
Because he is constantly mouthing off while producing garbage games. It was obviously the team around him that made his output at Sony good. He's like Molyneux or Spector always giving opinions about the industry when he's long since irrelevant.
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Kokoloko85
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Sucks tbh. I wanted a next gen GOW.
SSD for fast movement between dimensions, bigger scope and enemies on screen and more shizzle and details..... larger map, more animations.
CPU holding back GOW.... BS
SSD for fast movement between dimensions, bigger scope and enemies on screen and more shizzle and details..... larger map, more animations.
CPU holding back GOW.... BS
ManaByte
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GHG
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That option and opportunity gets taken off the table the moment to continue to target older hardware.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
It's only his opinion. If I had to guess, I'd likely agree with him.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
its all about lead time. How far in advance of the new gen platform launch do you think they had dev-kits?
The key thing is that its not just availability, its availability in sufficient quantity for a big project. So although its probable that there were alpha kits in circulation 18months - 2 years prior to launch, its unlikely that they were common enough to use as the primary hardware for a project of the scale of a GoW.
These things take time and a lot of manpower to make, so anything that appears early has to have been developed either using a target box to approximate capability (and so is liable not to make best use of the hardware) or was done on a shorter schedule and thus is a more modest undertaking.
The key thing is that its not just availability, its availability in sufficient quantity for a big project. So although its probable that there were alpha kits in circulation 18months - 2 years prior to launch, its unlikely that they were common enough to use as the primary hardware for a project of the scale of a GoW.
These things take time and a lot of manpower to make, so anything that appears early has to have been developed either using a target box to approximate capability (and so is liable not to make best use of the hardware) or was done on a shorter schedule and thus is a more modest undertaking.
Fake
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The guy have more experience at Sony that you'll never get, but somehow he is irrelevant.
CityHunter1981
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I wish it would be PS5 exclusive, but that’s not gonna happen, because there is a law that corporations are legally obligated to maximize their profit. Otherwise the shareholders could take legal actions. So unless they can present a very good reason why it is not feasible to also release it on PS4, they are obligated to do it.
Magog.
Banned
They don't have to prove that it can't be released on PS4 that's silly. All they would have to say is that it's part of their broader strategy to improve their brand.
Bruno_Arrais85
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who cares? Everybody will be able to play and enjoy.
ozz ex machina
Member
Ah yes, the famous SSD mechanics I'm sure sooo many games will be using. Is every Sony game going to need a rift-dimension hopping mechanic like new R&C to justify the SSD?
It will just load faster ffs.
Hudo
Member
I don't want to insinuate that Jaffe talks shit but this hasn't been confirmed by Sony so far and maybe he got this info from someone who was bullshitting, i.e. a bad source.
Did the official press release of the God of War: Ragnarok announcement specifically mention PS5 and only PS5? If so, it would be a very weird move to later include PS4. But then again, I don't work in marketing because my opinions are shit.
Did the official press release of the God of War: Ragnarok announcement specifically mention PS5 and only PS5? If so, it would be a very weird move to later include PS4. But then again, I don't work in marketing because my opinions are shit.
cireza
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Sony’s Jim Ryan believes in generations and wants to offer something new on PS5
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GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Why are people getting upset over Jaffe's opinion?
Bryank75
Banned
So, as you can see Jaffe is streaming GOW (2018) for the first time and loves it apart from the menu's.
But what you might not know is recently he was streaming Demons Souls and one of the studio heads at Bluepoint came in and helped him and in the next few weeks he might be streaming Days Gone.... possibly with some guest too (TBC).
He also had a great interview with Mike Mumbauer who set up the San Diego secret studio. The stream is really great and I recommend to anyone here.
As far as the cross-gen thing goes, I would prefer a PS5 only release that focuses all the studios attention on a single release. However there will only be a bit over 20 million PS5's by then, so I understand wanting to leverage the 110 million PS4's. Then again, you are working against building incentives for people to upgrade to PS5 if you keep doing cross gen releases. It's a double-edged sword.
But what you might not know is recently he was streaming Demons Souls and one of the studio heads at Bluepoint came in and helped him and in the next few weeks he might be streaming Days Gone.... possibly with some guest too (TBC).
He also had a great interview with Mike Mumbauer who set up the San Diego secret studio. The stream is really great and I recommend to anyone here.
As far as the cross-gen thing goes, I would prefer a PS5 only release that focuses all the studios attention on a single release. However there will only be a bit over 20 million PS5's by then, so I understand wanting to leverage the 110 million PS4's. Then again, you are working against building incentives for people to upgrade to PS5 if you keep doing cross gen releases. It's a double-edged sword.
MiguelItUp
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Makes perfect sense to me. There are fans that don't have a PS5 yet, and probably won't be able to get one for awhile for various reasons. Putting it on both platforms eliminates that potential issue. Plus, more profit. 
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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It may be, as it most likely started development on PS4. So even if it isn’t cross-gen, it won’t be fully taking advantage of the PS5 hardware, as that would require more time and a comprehensive re-write of their game engine and production toolchain.
JLB
Banned
Jimbo: "They all eat the whole 'we believe in generations' turd'
Magog.
Banned
Level design was clearly based around "squeeze points" in GoW to hide loading. If the level design in Ragnarok isn't then that would preclude a PS4 release.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Money talks.
I think Ragnarok said it was a 2021 game in the teaser. So that's next year. And by that time, the PS5 install base can't be that big. There would still be 100 million PS4/Pro users who didn't convert to PS5 which are potential $60 sales.
Seems to be on a game on game basis.
R&C and Demon's Souls seem to PS5 only. But Horizon 2 and Spiderman MM are cross gen.
I think Ragnarok said it was a 2021 game in the teaser. So that's next year. And by that time, the PS5 install base can't be that big. There would still be 100 million PS4/Pro users who didn't convert to PS5 which are potential $60 sales.
Seems to be on a game on game basis.
R&C and Demon's Souls seem to PS5 only. But Horizon 2 and Spiderman MM are cross gen.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
DarkMage619
$MSFT
I thought MS had no exclusives.
God of War should be PS5 only since only Sony believes in generations.
REDRZA MWS
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The issue is these cocksuckers said “We believe in generations”. I bought my PS5 to play PS5 games, not PS4 games up res’d and with a bit more frames. Sony can fuck right off.
That quote never meant every game would be PS5 exclusive. Thats ppl seeing what they wanna see.
Since I can remember they have always had cross gen and exclusive games the first few years after their new console launched.
Between MS and Sony, only Sony has exclusives for the new console right now. Thats how that quote should be looked at.
Plus they dramatically changed the UI and controller.
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Magog.
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They released 2 or 3 cross gen games which is pretty par for the course. Lots of exclusive next gen stuff coming. There was no technical reason for Sackboy or Miles Morales to be next gen only so why not let PS4 owners experience them too?