-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
DayZ Early Access Thread - We dont go to Stary Sobor
- Thread starter Grief.exe
- Start date
They all took off for Christmas I believe, and they deserved a vacation.
But..but Rocket said we get Christmas presents =(
Had the same thing happen to me, shot dead before the loading screen had gone.
I have no problem with food, i have problem with weapons. Basically when i make a new character, i get all survival loot in like 40 minutes and then all i can do, is to farm Hospitals for some extra healing stuff and airport for weapons.
They need to let weapons and attachments to spawn in normal houses and apartments too, because now it is just ridiculous.
They need to let weapons and attachments to spawn in normal houses and apartments too, because now it is just ridiculous.
The Janitor
Member
The military base near Kamenka has one.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Am I the only one thinking, that if you want anything from the Balota airport, go in at night on a low population server and scavenge then?
PoweredBySoy
Banned
Not to be one to completely break immersion and character interactions, but what is to stop someone in danger from just logging out?
PoweredBySoy
Banned
Kinda feel the same way. It astounds me that I've only seen this game slip from #1 once since the winter sale has began. People are fiends for zombie games.
The Mosin Nagant spawns in this house
Ya I've found a couple in there. Great place to find loot in the mod as well.
Lol I'm far to the NE, so no where near Kamenka.
In the mod 'combat logging' was introduced, where if a bullet landed within something like 15 metres of you, it would register as being in combat, and you would be unable to log out, if you alt + f4'd you'd still lose your kit.
I think SA has something similar. Nothing is for keeps in DayZ, the sooner people respect and accept that, the better.
It isn't turned on yet. They have many features turned off currently to assist with server performance.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
I wish they'd bring back the bandit skin.
Game needs consequences for Kill on Site players.
Game needs consequences for Kill on Site players.
Whats the consequence of looking badass?
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
At least you knew for sure who to completely avoid or KoS.
The problem with that system is how do you differentiate between those that deserve the skin and those that don't? The answer is you can't, at least not easily.
The bandit/hero skin is a horrible idea in my opinion. Beyond the fact that you can earn it unjustly, it takes away from the realism. You should not be able to look at someone and come to the conclusion that they are friendly/bandit because of their skin. A hero could still murder you. A bandit could still have pity on you. I hope they never bring that back.
Yeah. All joking aside, sometimes Fresh spawns will throw themselves at you or try to shoot you as soon as they find a weapon. Defending yourself, most of the time, counted to being a bandit.
Exactly.
Before someone says it, you could try to keep track of ulterior factors, who attacked first, who is defending, did the person avenge a friend, etc. The problem lies in server performance, that is all extra load for the servers that can't handle it currently.
Irrelevant discussion, Rocket has hated that particular mechanic from the beginning.
I just got killed on site on the bow of the ship in the northeast. Was just running around looking at the scenery and a guy on the deck of the other side of the ship just 1 shot downs me. I'm unconscious. My friends end up killing him and his friend and then they try to bandage and revive me but my character is stuck in a glitch running through walls so they can't catch me to fix me. End up having to just respawn.
Boo! That would kill the tension of figuring it out for yourself! And would kill the customization elements they've been introducing.
Same thing happened to me. Going unconscious seems really broken.
I believe if you open the can the quality reverts to pristine.
My vision is still quite blurry though I have been taking vitamins, dousing my wounds in alcohol, and filling up on food/water. I have a couple saline bag and IV kits, guess I will have one of the GAF crew administer that to me when we meet up.
I have never seen the stuffed message either despite eating cans upon cans of food and water.
Been looking for new players along the coast to drop off some food, ammo, pistol, and water too, hoping for them to administer a saline bag in return.
I believe it still said ruined for me, but I will have to check again.
I have never seen the stuffed message either despite eating cans upon cans of food and water.
Been looking for new players along the coast to drop off some food, ammo, pistol, and water too, hoping for them to administer a saline bag in return.
I believe it still said ruined for me, but I will have to check again.
PoweredBySoy
Banned
I'm fairly convinced that damage status is irrelevant for a good number of items in this game. I feel like it's currently a placeholder system for something that might be implemented down the road.
I'm can't say for sure what it is you're seeing, but I know my game looks blurry until I turn off post processing in video options. And there seems to be a bug where after booting the game up, your change won't take affect until you navigate to the video options again. You don't have to click accept or even make the change again - just navigating to the video options will force your previous post processing change. It's weird.
jediyoshi
Member
Made a video on a cloudy/windy day. The weather system is nuts.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddN0ER8vv44&hd=1
dat light refraction
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddN0ER8vv44&hd=1
dat light refraction
I never seen a stuffed alert myself.
I'm on a young survivor full on food and water. I applied a pristine bandage and ate some vitamins. I guess my next steps are alcohol and saline.
I'm not keen on my vision/graphics being affected by something for the majority of the time I've invested in the game.
If I'm not getting any infection or sick alerts and health is supposed to regen, give me my clarity.
It breaks my immersion worse than a HUD.
Edit: I'm pretty sure my char has 'healthy' next to it as well...
It's fun solo but surely better with people. However it's tough to meet up if you don't know the map and how to get around.
Expect a lot of frustration from bugs and janky controls atm though
I loved to play solo on the mod and then hunt for those vandit groups, hackers ruined that for me though
PoweredBySoy
Banned
I think that's why this game is so great though - is the feeling of dread that it constantly conveys. The constant fear of dying makes this one of the most terrifying games I've ever played, and it isn't due to 'jump' scares.
With friends maybe not stay so closely grouped? Stay staggered or have a guy following behind. That way he could potentially kill the bandit and salvage some of your most important gear for you. This staggered person could also reverse a hold-up situation.
The Mosin Nagant spawns in this house
I've been there like at least 60 times and havent found even one.
I found one Mosin in a house with second floor from dayz mod, but thats about it.
Sure there are some weapons spawns in office at 3rd floor and at ground floor of firestation, but thats about it.
Not only that, i havent found a single attachment outside of airports except for weapon flashlight in one house and i have over 20h of game time on my counter.
------
Hoped to a server with 3 people on it and got shot like after one minute on Balota airport
Airport above Stary Sobor is much safer and has more loot, but its so far away.
That was our fault, we were too close to each other, maybe 2-3m. He shot me and one friend at the same time and my other friend freaked out and didn't know what to do. He was just staying on his position and after 5-7 minutes he was killed too.
I knew I will die sometime and will lose everything. But it hurts anyway to lose a character you invested 5 hours of your lifetime xD
Finally got my hands on this last night, mixed feelings thus far.
I'm loving the quite noticeable visual upgrade the SA has over the mod (which I've been playing the last few days to get back into it), and being able to enter 70-80% of buildings now is a welcome addition. Zombies also seem to be a lot more intelligent and organic than their predecessors which is good too!
Positives to summarise:
- Graphical upgrades are nice
- New inventory screen is 100x better than the previous crap
- All dem enterable buildings
- Zombies (when you find them) are much better
- Focus on direct comms (no side channel chat etc) is actually pretty sweet
- Some functional upgrades like tearing clothes in to rags blew my mind
However...
Main issues at the moment being:
- Complete lack of loot on servers with 10+ players
- Stupid hunger/thirst/health system currently in place, the mod's little icons worked just fine
- Unconcious/death system being completely devoid of information (mod at least shown your character being killed from 3rd-person perspective)
- Poor performance in certain areas like Chernogorsk
- Severe lack of zombies
- So much jank it's untrue
I appreciate a lot of the work Rocket and his team have been doing is somewhat 'behind the scenes' on a technical level to get this thing off the ground, but considering we're what, 12-18 months down the line now? The SA is heavily lacking features in several key areas... it really does feel about as barebones as things can get, but I guess that's what we've signed up for anyway. A lot of the 'new additions'/changes that have been made to the basic core functions of the mod seem like backward steps IMO but with a community as vocal as DayZ's, I'm sure shit will be sorted ASAP. I'm not quite getting the awesome vibes the mod was giving me back in the day (eg. sheer terror 24/7) as people seem to be sprinting around all over the place with seemingly no penalty for doing so... kinda kills the immersion but ah well, I'm sure it'll only get better as the weeks pass.
I just expected a lot more by now.
I'm loving the quite noticeable visual upgrade the SA has over the mod (which I've been playing the last few days to get back into it), and being able to enter 70-80% of buildings now is a welcome addition. Zombies also seem to be a lot more intelligent and organic than their predecessors which is good too!
Positives to summarise:
- Graphical upgrades are nice
- New inventory screen is 100x better than the previous crap
- All dem enterable buildings
- Zombies (when you find them) are much better
- Focus on direct comms (no side channel chat etc) is actually pretty sweet
- Some functional upgrades like tearing clothes in to rags blew my mind
However...
Main issues at the moment being:
- Complete lack of loot on servers with 10+ players
- Stupid hunger/thirst/health system currently in place, the mod's little icons worked just fine
- Unconcious/death system being completely devoid of information (mod at least shown your character being killed from 3rd-person perspective)
- Poor performance in certain areas like Chernogorsk
- Severe lack of zombies
- So much jank it's untrue
I appreciate a lot of the work Rocket and his team have been doing is somewhat 'behind the scenes' on a technical level to get this thing off the ground, but considering we're what, 12-18 months down the line now? The SA is heavily lacking features in several key areas... it really does feel about as barebones as things can get, but I guess that's what we've signed up for anyway. A lot of the 'new additions'/changes that have been made to the basic core functions of the mod seem like backward steps IMO but with a community as vocal as DayZ's, I'm sure shit will be sorted ASAP. I'm not quite getting the awesome vibes the mod was giving me back in the day (eg. sheer terror 24/7) as people seem to be sprinting around all over the place with seemingly no penalty for doing so... kinda kills the immersion but ah well, I'm sure it'll only get better as the weeks pass.
I just expected a lot more by now.
rasberryjam
Member
Just out of curiosity, if I were to change my characters default appearance would it reset him/her entirely? As in, would I lose all my current equipment and just sort of respawn?
Unbound By Death
Member
I tried and the changes only take place after you die from whatever reason and respawn, so your next character should have the appearance when the time comes.
It doesn't kill you or anything...But why risk it anyway? lol
rasberryjam
Member
Thanks! I've currently got a female character, but it's just slightly distracting when she starts grunting like a man. Sounds like a hassle to change and it's really not a very big issue. Hopefully they get some female voicework in there sometime! Probably not high on the to-do list, though.
I'm not a bandit, and I'm not a "kill on sight" player, but let's think about this a little logically: If you were in a zombie apocalypse like DayZ, why wouldn't you shoot first/ask questions later on anyone that you know isn't a friendly?
I can understand the frustration (and that's why I try to find low population servers for the lesser chance of these people) but I can see why they would do it outside of trolling purposes. They have no clue you're a friendly and you may say you are but in reality you aren't and may possibly kill them.
This game is really cool until you run into zombies.
I mean, there's something really wrong with that, of course -- they walk through walls, take 10000 hits with melee weapons, and are about as threatening as a freshly squeezed shit.
Like, how? How can the one thing your zombie game needs to do partway right be so utterly horrible? It's one thing to say the game is early access, but damn; sheer incompetence.
I mean, there's something really wrong with that, of course -- they walk through walls, take 10000 hits with melee weapons, and are about as threatening as a freshly squeezed shit.
Like, how? How can the one thing your zombie game needs to do partway right be so utterly horrible? It's one thing to say the game is early access, but damn; sheer incompetence.
PoweredBySoy
Banned
True that. Which, again, is why it's awesome. For so many, many things this game currently does wrong, what it does so right is the feeling of being in a desolate, post-zombie apocalypse world. It's perfect. I played for about 3 hours last night and didn't see a single person in a 40p server. While I would agree that this doesn't make the game for everybody, it certainly punctuates those moments where you do have encounters.
Jibbed said:
lol, what? I never played the mod, but I can't even imagine more pointless, dysfunctional zombies in a zombie game. They don't respond to sound. They only appear in one's. They walk through walls and doors. Circle-strafing with a melee weapon prevents from ever getting hurt by one.
It's really the most glaring issue with this alpha right now. Zombies need to be completely scrapped and redone. They need to pose a threat to bring action and tension for all of that time when you're not engaged in some sort of PvP. They need to travel in groups and be found in the wilderness. They need to be carrying loot. They need to be able to spawn inside houses, and have the AI to navigate walls and doors. They need to respond to and converge on loud sounds - especially gun fire. You could even tie loot spawns to zombies by having some of the best loot and weapons guarded by large zombie groups - forcing players to work together.