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[Bo_Hazem]

They are doing a rather poor job of shilling for MS then. All those PS5 only videos that they have put out, and being one of the first to point out the Xbox struggling severely in some sections of AC: Valhalla. Oh, let us not forget the near 1.5 hours of combined deep dive videos they did on Demon Souls. Or continually listing Sony exclusives in their best graphics of the year videos. Frankly if they were in MS pockets I would have asked for my money back by now.

So you want them to go full retard and expose themselves and lose access to the most profitable platform with the largest audience? They need to play it "smart".

 

[Zathalus]

So you want them to go full retard and expose themselves and lose access to the most profitable platform with the largest audience? They need to play it "smart".

But for this video they are not playing it smart and are falsifying the results they got?

So what exactly are they doing then? They call out exactly where a specific console performs worse than the other and they have been heavy in their praise for the PS5. Some recent comparison videos:

Nioh 2: They point out that the PS5 version of the game has better LOD than PC.
Division 2: They called out the PS5 for being the worse version, yet they repeatedly stressed in the video that this is a bug and the PS5 is capable of much, much more.
Control: They once again demonstrated the I/O issue that the Xbox version has, while noting the PS5 has none of those issues. They also did the photo mode test, but what people seem to keep forgetting is that they stressed it was merely of academic interest and has no bearing on how the game plays.
Skyrim: They went out of their way to test BC 60Fps on the PS5, once again bringing to light the PS5 is performing better. This is a key one, if they were MS shills they would have zero incentive to bring that up. It wasn't a new game.
Hitman 3: They pointed out the resolution advantage of the Xbox and also pointed out the drops it can have in the one level. They could have sugar coated it, but they did not.

Then they do all these 60FPS patch videos for the PS5, God of War, Days Gone, Ghost of Tsushima, and they praise them heavily.

On top of all that, they put Spider-Man: MM as the number second pick for graphics of the year. Only loosing to Cyberpunk 2077 when using the full RT suite, which is only possible on a very expensive PC.

If they are being MS shills then they are being so subtle about it, that it may as well not even matter.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

But for this video they are not playing it smart and are falsifying the results they got?

So what exactly are they doing then? They call out exactly where a specific console performs worse than the other and they have been heavy in their praise for the PS5. Some recent comparison videos:

Nioh 2: They point out that the PS5 version of the game has better LOD than PC.
Division 2: They called out the PS5 for being the worse version, yet they repeatedly stressed in the video that this is a bug and the PS5 is capable of much, much more.
Control: They once again demonstrated the I/O issue that the Xbox version has, while noting the PS5 has none of those issues. They also did the photo mode test, but what people seem to keep forgetting is that they stressed it was merely of academic interest and has no bearing on how the game plays.
Skyrim: They went out of their way to test BC 60Fps on the PS5, once again bringing to light the PS5 is performing better. This is a key one, if they were MS shills they would have zero incentive to bring that up. It wasn't a new game.
Hitman 3: They pointed out the resolution advantage of the Xbox and also pointed out the drops it can have in the one level. They could have sugar coated it, but they did not.

Then they do all these 60FPS patch videos for the PS5, God of War, Days Gone, Ghost of Tsushima, and they praise them heavily.

On top of all that, they put Spider-Man: MM as the number second pick for graphics of the year. Only loosing to Cyberpunk 2077 when using the full RT suite, which is only possible on a very expensive PC.

If they are being MS shills then they are being so subtle about it, that it may as well not even matter.

Some truths are too hard to hide...

 

[Zathalus]

Some truths are too hard to hide...

Feel free to point them out then.

 

[Leyasu]

 

[Die Namek Ability]

What is this in reference to?

 

[Leyasu]

What is this in reference to?

Just go through the thread..

 

[Die Namek Ability]

Just go through the thread..

I did and based on you posts is why im confused. My interpretation is that you are implying Sony fans are salty however i really dont think that is applicable. How could they possibly be with these results? Unless you talking about Nintendo fan i guess idk.

 

[Mmnow]

Feel free to point them out then.

That when Xbox wins, it's because Microsoft have paid off Digital Foundry. It's all very cloak and dagger, but not really, because big brains see through it.

When Sony wins, there's no money involved. It's just the unarguable truth.

So, for instance, Hitman 3 runs at less than 60fps for roughly 1% of its gameplay on Xbox Series X. Digital Foundry mentioned this, but didn't hammer it home repeatedly. They should have highlighted how that means the PS5 is superior even with its much lower resolution.

Now, little brains might not have noticed this problem, but big brains see right through it: another Microsoft cheque has been cashed.

 

[iamvin22]

dynamic 720p, yikes!

 

[Leyasu]

I did and based on you posts is why im confused. My interpretation is that you are implying Sony fans are salty however i really dont think that is applicable. How could they possibly be with these results? Unless you talking about Nintendo fan i guess idk.

The results are indeed good for the PS5, and this patch was a very nice boost to an already well performing game on that console. Nobody should be unhappy with this update.

I was more mocking those that are now disappointed the DF didn't highlight the "massive" advantage the PS5 had pre-patch, and how we shouldn't trust them. You have got to wonder how people will feel about VG tech if they analyse a game in the future that doesn't favor the PS5?

 

[Chan]

You should check your vision with a specialist or play a PS2 game in PS2 again. A model in this game have more triangles than a PS2 full scene.

Don't take everything literally mate. This game just doesn't look technically impressive. Artstyle is subjective, sure, but I can't see anything that wasn't achieved by the WiiU already (BotW).

 

[ANIMAL1975]

If you weren't around (busy, work, kidnapped, etc) we've already have evidence of MS execs bragging about putting DF in their pockets (screenshots) shared with the mods by HeisenbergFX4 . I really don't like tagging him around and annoy him but you probably didn't know about it. They are actually his friends and the screenshots are from the game chat convo so don't expect anyone sharing them publicly but the moderation team are aware of it.

And speaking of SSD speeds, it's too early for most devs to code for it vs first party.

I did and based on you posts is why im confused. My interpretation is that you are implying Sony fans are salty however i really dont think that is applicable. How could they possibly be with these results? Unless you talking about Nintendo fan i guess idk.

The guys that bought the last minute overclocked 10tf machine, are salty because this game plays the same in the 12TF Anaconda...

 

[Astral Dog]

That is the Nintendo way. Great for:

- first party games
- portability (Switch or their numerous handhelds)
- hardware always seems $100-200 cheaper than PS or Xbox

Not great for:

- everything else such as high budget games, visuals, online, third party game selection. The core audience is so limited it's game appeal, EA doesn't even spam their million EA Sports on Nintendo systems. All they do is I think FIFA and thats it. And it's always a last gen game engine version of FIFA.

Switch is great for replaying 360/PS3 and below remasters from any company,but it obviously has its limits we just can't accept it was never a PS4/ONE portable,the fact that its even running a new current gen game day one is impressive by itself.

Yeah they probably gonna announce a Switch pro later in the year

 

[sublimit]

So have the tools arrived yet?

 

[Astral Dog]

I love my switch for its portability and that, but other than that it really is a garbage piece of gaming tech, compared to everything else out there. I'm sure there's phones that can do better than the switch now.

I mean, 720p DOCKED? 720 in handheld would be fine, but in "home console" mode? That should be unnacceptable nowadays.

You know this is a little funny when the brand new console SERIES S is running this game at a resolution comparable to the 2017 tablet Switch, even if its 60fps

 

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[Die Namek Ability]

You know this is a little funny when the brand new console SERIES S is running this game at a resolution comparable to the 2017 tablet Switch, even if its 60fps

Obviously the game isnt close to comparable outside of that number, but i do agree that its not a good look to have anything in common with the Switch with regards to gfx/ performance output.

 

[MasterCornholio]

The results are indeed good for the PS5, and this patch was a very nice boost to an already well performing game on that console. Nobody should be unhappy with this update.

I was more mocking those that are now disappointed the DF didn't highlight the "massive" advantage the PS5 had pre-patch, and how we shouldn't trust them. You have got to wonder how people will feel about VG tech if they analyse a game in the future that doesn't favor the PS5?

Didn't the PS5 have some framerate issues?

 

[Bogroll]

You know this is a little funny when the brand new console SERIES S is running this game at a resolution comparable to the 2017 tablet Switch, even if its 60fps

Which just shows there's more to it than resolution as Ive got both on a 55" 1080p tv and ignoring the 60fps the Series S is on another planet.

That's not to say I don't appreciate what the Switch is doing.

 

[Leyasu]

Didn't the PS5 have some framerate issues?

It was hardly anything before. More the stuttering which was fixed relatively quickly.


The VG tech analysis thread could tell you more.

Whatever the problems or not before, this is a very good update allround from Ubi. I wasn't expecting them to put much effort into this now that they have our money and the game is already discounted. If Ubi make the same effort for ACV, then I might bite the bullet on another Ubi openworld and pick it up.

 

[EdGalTBR]

You know this is a little funny when the brand new console SERIES S is running this game at a resolution comparable to the 2017 tablet Switch, even if its 60fps

What about geometry, light, shadow, fog, texture, etc.?

 

[MasterCornholio]

It was hardly anything before. More the stuttering which was fixed relatively quickly.


The VG tech analysis thread could tell you more.

Whatever the problems or not before, this is a very good update allround from Ubi. I wasn't expecting them to put much effort into this now that they have our money and the game is already discounted. If Ubi make the same effort for ACV, then I might bite the bullet on another Ubi openworld and pick it up.

Glad to hear the PS5 version got upgraded. That's a good sign.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Why has this latest patch gimped the PS5 version to run the same as the weaker Series X hardware?

 

[DJ12]

They are doing a rather poor job of shilling for MS then. All those PS5 only videos that they have put out, and being one of the first to point out the Xbox struggling severely in some sections of AC: Valhalla. Oh, let us not forget the near 1.5 hours of combined deep dive videos they did on Demon Souls. Or continually listing Sony exclusives in their best graphics of the year videos. Frankly if they were in MS pockets I would have asked for my money back by now.

Seriously?

When did they compare the PC version to the Series X version of any game that was on all three platforms?

Of course you could argue it's because the PS5 version was actually the best one, but it's a bit disingenuous don't you think that PS5 is in the titles and not "Next gen v PC"

And of course having finally watched a bit of this video to prove another point, it is apparent that the shadowing doesn't match between versions, with series X being inferior particularly on the character model and clothing. Now three months after the others did their videos you would expect they would be aware of this difference and checked it. Why not mention it though.... Seemed pretty keen to mention it when it was in Series X's favour with hitman.

 

[Die Namek Ability]

Seriously?

When did they compare the PC version to the Series X version of any game that was on all three platforms?

Of course you could argue it's because the PS5 version was actually the best one, but it's a bit disingenuous don't you think that PS5 is in the titles and not "Next gen v PC"

And of course having finally watched a bit of this video to prove another point, it is apparent that the shadowing doesn't match between versions, with series X being inferior particularly on the character model and clothing. Now three months after the others did their videos you would expect they would be aware of this difference and checked it. Why not mention it though.... Seemed pretty keen to mention it when it was in Series X's favour with hitman.

To be fair they did compare XsX games WDL and Medium to PC. If anything i would argue the fact that they seem to choose the PS5 version to compare to PC in most case seems to indicate its the closest competitor (currently) and by doing so DF is actually giving the PS5 the nod.

 

[Zathalus]

Seriously?

When did they compare the PC version to the Series X version of any game that was on all three platforms?

Of course you could argue it's because the PS5 version was actually the best one, but it's a bit disingenuous don't you think that PS5 is in the titles and not "Next gen v PC"

And of course having finally watched a bit of this video to prove another point, it is apparent that the shadowing doesn't match between versions, with series X being inferior particularly on the character model and clothing. Now three months after the others did their videos you would expect they would be aware of this difference and checked it. Why not mention it though.... Seemed pretty keen to mention it when it was in Series X's favour with hitman.

How is that comparison a slight against the PS5? As you yourself pointed out they used the best console version. If anything that reinforces the communication that the PS5 is better in that game. They compare specific console versions against PC all the time. Watch Dogs Legion used Xbox for the comparison. I suppose by featuring the PS5 version of Control that was somehow shilling for Microsoft as well?

As for this game having inferior shadowing, can you point that out where it is obvious? Not from previous versions of the game, but the current one. The patches have dramatically improved performance on both consoles as well as addressed a whole suit of bugs.

 

[DJ12]

Medium, a game not on PS5, fair does on the WDL, hadn't seen that video.

Still doesn't change the blatant omissions that even I can spot in these face offs.

I guess the proof they are shilling is just a stick to beat them with, but even without that their analysis is seriously lacking. John being the only one that really spots anything major, but he "missed" the shadowing here also so....

 

[Zathalus]

Medium, a game not on PS5, fair does on the WDL, hadn't seen that video.

Still doesn't change the blatant omissions that even I can spot in these face offs.

I guess the proof they are shilling is just a stick to beat them with, but even without that their analysis is seriously lacking. John being the only one that really spots anything major, but he "missed" the shadowing here also so....

What shadowing? I've reviewed the footage from the DF video and really can't spot any difference at all.

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

What shadowing? I've reviewed the footage from the DF video and really can't spot any difference at all.

Abandon this thread. It was ruined by a few Sony fanboys.

 

[Shmunter]

But for this video they are not playing it smart and are falsifying the results they got?

So what exactly are they doing then? They call out exactly where a specific console performs worse than the other and they have been heavy in their praise for the PS5. Some recent comparison videos:

Nioh 2: They point out that the PS5 version of the game has better LOD than PC.
Division 2: They called out the PS5 for being the worse version, yet they repeatedly stressed in the video that this is a bug and the PS5 is capable of much, much more.
Control: They once again demonstrated the I/O issue that the Xbox version has, while noting the PS5 has none of those issues. They also did the photo mode test, but what people seem to keep forgetting is that they stressed it was merely of academic interest and has no bearing on how the game plays.
Skyrim: They went out of their way to test BC 60Fps on the PS5, once again bringing to light the PS5 is performing better. This is a key one, if they were MS shills they would have zero incentive to bring that up. It wasn't a new game.
Hitman 3: They pointed out the resolution advantage of the Xbox and also pointed out the drops it can have in the one level. They could have sugar coated it, but they did not.

Then they do all these 60FPS patch videos for the PS5, God of War, Days Gone, Ghost of Tsushima, and they praise them heavily.

On top of all that, they put Spider-Man: MM as the number second pick for graphics of the year. Only loosing to Cyberpunk 2077 when using the full RT suite, which is only possible on a very expensive PC.

If they are being MS shills then they are being so subtle about it, that it may as well not even matter.

Damn, PS5 is beastly.

 

[Hendrick's]

Abandon this thread. It was ruined by a few Sony fanboys.

So like every other thread.

 

[Tickle My Tendies]

What about geometry, light, shadow, fog, texture, etc.?

They don't care that the Series S is running a drastically more advanced version of the game than the Switch. That fact doesn't concern them. They also don't care that the S hits 1440p in resolution mode.

They just wanna war.

I don't even like the Series S. I, personally, think it is 50 bucks overpriced. That being said, the fact is the game isn't nearly as bad on the S as people are making it out, at least according to DF.

The napalming of everything Xbox related is getting pretty fucking tired.

 

[Nikana]

They don't care that the Series S is running a drastically more advanced version of the game than the Switch. That fact doesn't concern them. They also don't care that the S hits 1440p in resolution mode.

They just wanna war.

I don't even like the Series S. I, personally, think it is 50 bucks overpriced. That being said, the fact is the game isn't nearly as bad on the S as people are making it out, at least according to DF.

The napalming of everything Xbox related is getting pretty fucking tired.

 

[Andodalf]

So like every other thread.

IDK how the mods are okay with the same dudes starting massive flame wars in every single thread. Stuff like this isn't good for the site's activity or growth (Other than those folks alts)

 

[Scumcore]

I wanted to play this game on the Switch just for the portability. But after playing the demo on Xbox I don't think I will.

 

[Die Namek Ability]

They don't care that the Series S is running a drastically more advanced version of the game than the Switch. That fact doesn't concern them. They also don't care that the S hits 1440p in resolution mode.

They just wanna war.

I don't even like the Series S. I, personally, think it is 50 bucks overpriced. That being said, the fact is the game isn't nearly as bad on the S as people are making it out, at least according to DF.

The napalming of everything Xbox related is getting pretty fucking tired.

People here will convince themselves of what they want, it doesn't make it true.

Most Xbox fans are gone from here now, so the dog piling doesn't make their system better, just nobody wants to argue it anymore.

So Sony wins, yay.

It's a war of attrition that through banning and moderation Sony won.

Gaf is Somyland once again.

He literally showed the tearing on the PS5 version during the video. You know you're off the deep end when you'd rather trust a rando on the internet instead of your own eyes lmao.

Is there any reason why there is no difference in loading times between xbox and ps5?

They are In total denial, they can't even accept the game has been patched on Xbox and just tested again, they want to keep going back to launch version because it's what they want to hear.

Wait, the VGTech video is from the unpatched version?

I remember that cringy thread, everyone jerking off over the tiny advantage of the PS5. And now that Ubisoft patched the game, you guys are salty as fuck

Naughty DF being mean to PlayStation.

Ubi have also improved the ps5 version. Your post reads like a desperate search for anything that can be claimed as a "win" for the Sony army.

This is what happens when devs have a bit longer with the hardware, and don't have to rush for launch. This is common sense. Every game released so far could be improved on both systems with a bit longer in the oven.

This thread is garbage now. Bye.

That when Xbox wins, it's because Microsoft have paid off Digital Foundry. It's all very cloak and dagger, but not really, because big brains see through it.

When Sony wins, there's no money involved. It's just the unarguable truth.

So, for instance, Hitman 3 runs at less than 60fps for roughly 1% of its gameplay on Xbox Series X. Digital Foundry mentioned this, but didn't hammer it home repeatedly. They should have highlighted how that means the PS5 is superior even with its much lower resolution.

Now, little brains might not have noticed this problem, but big brains see right through it: another Microsoft cheque has been cashed.

Abandon this thread. It was ruined by a few Sony fanboys.

So like every other thread.

They don't care that the Series S is running a drastically more advanced version of the game than the Switch. That fact doesn't concern them. They also don't care that the S hits 1440p in resolution mode.

They just wanna war.

I don't even like the Series S. I, personally, think it is 50 bucks overpriced. That being said, the fact is the game isn't nearly as bad on the S as people are making it out, at least according to DF.

The napalming of everything Xbox related is getting pretty fucking tired.

IDK how the mods are okay with the same dudes starting massive flame wars in every single thread. Stuff like this isn't good for the site's activity or growth (Other than those folks alts)

Hey Sony fan here. I feel i have been extremely cordial and receptive to all views even tho i lean Sony and by nature have a bias. It is extremely frustrating to get all of these drive by posts lumping me in with one or two fanatics that go overboard. This is whats know as stereo typing btw. Furthermore this thread wouldnt be so bad without the posts i highlighted above. So why dont you all look in a mirror and stop adding to the problem so we can have a real discussion about the topic at hand and stop drive by shit posting because "mom he started it"...

 

[Nikana]

Hey Sony fan here. I feel i have been extremely cordial and receptive to all views even tho i lean Sony and by nature have a bias. It is extremely frustrating to get all of these drive by posts lumping me in with one or two fanatics that go overboard. This is whats know as stereo typing btw. Furthermore this thread wouldnt be so bad without the posts i highlighted above. So why dont you all look in a mirror and stop adding to the problem so we can have a real discussion about the topic at hand and stop drive by shit posting because "mom he started it"...

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

Hey Sony fan here. I feel i have been extremely cordial and receptive to all views even tho i lean Sony and by nature have a bias. It is extremely frustrating to get all of these drive by posts lumping me in with one or two fanatics that go overboard. This is whats know as stereo typing btw. Furthermore this thread wouldnt be so bad without the posts i highlighted above. So why dont you all look in a mirror and stop adding to the problem so we can have a real discussion about the topic at hand and stop drive by shit posting because "mom he started it"...

Haha good one.
No one lumped you in. You lumped yourself in. The people in question know who they are.
Look at page 1. There was a reasonable discussion and like always it turned to Xbox is shit and DF are shills. Point your finger in another direction maybe.

 

[Die Namek Ability]

Haha good one.
No one lumped you in. You lumped yourself in. The people in question know who they are.
Look at page 1. There was a reasonable discussion and like always it turned to Xbox is shit and DF are shills. Point your finger in another direction maybe.

Its comments like what you posted that make people feel bad about liking a product or brand. Straight up saying the thread is ruined by a few bad apples or its to pro this or that and trying to convince people to stray from continuing discussion is part of the problem not the solution. Instead we could ignore the few and carry on with actual discussion dont you think?

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

Its comments like what you posted that make people feel bad about liking a product or brand. Straight up saying the thread is ruined by a few bad apples or its to pro this or that and trying to convince people to stray from continuing discussion is part of the problem not the solution. Instead we could ignore the few and carry on with actual discussion dont you think?

It's really not a few. Also really I'm tired of the we are the most popular with by far the biggest fanbase here on this site yet lots of Sony only fans act like they are a minority being mistreated. Seriously look at honestly just about any thread with Xbox being mentioned and it's a shit Show of people hating on it. You find me a single thread that's not Xbox ot where the pile of shit coming from the Sony side is smaller and I'll concede and apologize.
Hint
You will waste your time as such a thread does not exist.

 

[Die Namek Ability]

It's really not a few. Also really I'm tired of the we are the most popular with by far the biggest fanbase here on this site yet lots of Sony only fans act like they are a minority being mistreated. Seriously look at honestly just about any thread with Xbox being mentioned and it's a shit Show of people hating on it. You find me a single thread that's not Xbox ot where the pile of shit coming from the Sony side is smaller and I'll concede and apologize.
Hint
You will waste your time as such a thread does not exist.

So because some Sony fans are doing it that makes it ok? It dosen't matter whose pile of shit is larger they both stink and detract from the conversation. So why dont you make a change with what you can control, your own posts?

 

[Mmnow]

So because some Sony fans are doing it that makes it ok? It dosen't matter whose pile of shit is larger they both stink and detract from the conversation. So why dont you make a change with what you can control, your own posts?

If you feel hurt by my post taking the piss out of "Digital Foundry are MS shills" conspiracy theorists, I'm fine with that. Not all ideas are equal. Some are ridiculous and pathetic. But time and time again it's given airtime here, and now you're saying it STEREOTYPING to find that hilarious?

That's not a console war thing unless you think mocking idiots for fantasising about this bullshit Is console warring.

Most those posts are reacting to - AGAIN - a thread that has devolved into bullshit conspiracy theories. Most of them - me included - have posted genuinely.

If you're genuinely feeling attacked by that, you should look at why.

 

[Die Namek Ability]

If you feel hurt by my post taking the piss out of "Digital Foundry are MS shills" conspiracy theorists, I'm fine with that. Not all ideas are equal. Some are ridiculous and pathetic. But time and time again it's given airtime here, and now you're saying it STEREOTYPING to find that hilarious?

That's not a console war thing unless you think mocking idiots for fantasising about this bullshit Is console warring.

Most those posts are reacting to - AGAIN - a thread that has devolved into bullshit conspiracy theories. Most of them - me included - have posted genuinely.

If you're genuinely feeling attacked by that, you should look at why.

Your post wasnt highlighted because i felt attacked, it was highlighted because its senseless antagonization that adds to the shit pile which is distracting the thread from productive conversation.

 

[Nikana]

Your post wasnt highlighted because i felt attacked, it was highlighted because its senseless antagonization that adds to the shit pile which is distracting the thread from productive conversation.

 

[DJ12]

What shadowing? I've reviewed the footage from the DF video and really can't spot any difference at all.

Like I said, it's on the character and the cloths. It's hard to find a like for like situation in this video, but to be fair it's not as drastic a difference as before so maybe they do match now.

Her belt looked flat with one or two baked shadows on series x, seems there is more shadowing now. The angles never truly align in the DF video to make a judgment.

 

[Mmnow]

Your post wasnt highlighted because i felt attacked, it was highlighted because its senseless antagonization that adds to the shit pile which is distracting the thread from productive conversation.

Senseless antagonisation like mass quoting a bunch of people?

My post isn't anti-ps5. Its not even anti-ps5 fanboys. It's anti conspiracy theory.

And on top of that I've posted productively and genuinely in this thread. I can't see a single post from you that's even on topic.

If your advice here is "Be the change you want to see" maybe be the change you want to see?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

If you weren't around (busy, work, kidnapped, etc) we've already had evidence of MS execs bragging about putting DF in their pockets (screenshots) shared with the mods by HeisenbergFX4 . I really don't like tagging him around and annoy him but you probably didn't know about it. They are actually his friends and the screenshots are from the game chat convo so don't expect anyone sharing them publicly but the moderation team are aware of it.

And speaking of SSD speeds, it's too early for most devs to code for it vs first party.

Its never a bother my friend

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

So because some Sony fans are doing it that makes it ok? It dosen't matter whose pile of shit is larger they both stink and detract from the conversation. So why dont you make a change with what you can control, your own posts?

You are right. My love for arguing and complaining got the best of me. Sincerest apologies.