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DF Performance Analysis: Diablo 3 at 1080p on Xbox One
- Thread starter gruenel
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I could tell. It may not affect some people used to 30fps gaming. But for someone who has played at the minimum 60fps (and now 120fps) for the past 15 years, I can easily tell.
I own all three consoles (Wii U, PS4, Xbone) so I at least have choices when I buy a multi-plat game. The choice is clear once again though, on which one is the better version.
Does anyone know if the particle effects and texturing is the same on both consoles as well?
And that's what blind sheep also say as well when they don't get the 1080p experience -- this is seen on both sides of the camp.
MaximusPayne
Member
Most posts on this thread contradict what was wanted at launch of the new consoles. Since when is 1080p/low50fps at extreme moments so bad?!?! Gimme a break.
Colbert
Banned
I am playing the game now over 4 hours on my Xbox One and I have no idea what Eurogamer is talking about. I see the game running smooth while playing 4-player-coop and much enemied as well many effect on the screen. In other words if there are frame dips they are not noticable to me.
BTW It is strange to me why they did not make a PS4 vs. Xbox One as they did before ...
BTW It is strange to me why they did not make a PS4 vs. Xbox One as they did before ...
dafuq am i reading
Dr Mayonnaise
Member
Or minion based witch doctors raining frogs on everything. Love my XB1 but I am glad I have D3 on PC haha
justsomeguy
Member
Well, the quote was:
Phil Spencer said:
So, occasional sub-60 judged to be better than permanent sub-1080 in this instance.
Of course both locked 60 + permanent 1080 would be preferable, but considering the reported gap in hardware between the two, this is relatively close performance between the two.
That's not the song MSGAF intone everyday since he's in charge. But i guess they're as efficient in 180 than MS's PR.
travisbickle
Member
Watching this video makes you wonder why the frame dips? It's hardly doing anything that looks remotely stressful to the console. My IMHO but this looked like an un-optimised game to me.
There's a fair few games below 1080p on the XB1, so I think that in itself is stressful to the console.
Alright,
I watched that youtube video showing the XboxOne frame rate drops and this insanity has to end.
I cant believe this is the conversation of EVERY single game that comes out. Scrutinizing absolutely every single detail to the point every pixel needs to be analyzed. Stop.
Its to the point were its downright psychotic. If we didn't have a line graph (seriously...) or numbers represented at the top left corner NONE of us would be able to tell there was a "difference". No wonder the gaming industry is catabolizing itself when this is the "fan base" the developers are working for. This is embarrassing.
I watched that youtube video showing the XboxOne frame rate drops and this insanity has to end.
I cant believe this is the conversation of EVERY single game that comes out. Scrutinizing absolutely every single detail to the point every pixel needs to be analyzed. Stop.
Its to the point were its downright psychotic. If we didn't have a line graph (seriously...) or numbers represented at the top left corner NONE of us would be able to tell there was a "difference". No wonder the gaming industry is catabolizing itself when this is the "fan base" the developers are working for. This is embarrassing.
MSGAF? lmaoThat's not the song MSGAF intone everyday since he's in charge. But i guess they're as efficient in 180 than MS's PR.
SneakyStephan
Banned
this quote is going to see so much use in the coming years
They've only tested the initial areas huh
absolutely worthless articlewait till you see the performance at 10 fps bridge in act 3, or till you have 3 pet doctors in your rift spamming firebats (let alone if they have the skeleton clone helmet with 2 skeletons copying all your spellcasts)
Well, the difference between 50 and 60 FPS definitely isn't that big to be immediately noticeable by everyone.
nelsonroyale
Member
How can a game like Diablo 3 struggle to achieve 1080p and 60fps on Xbone? It is far from a serious looker...
Digital Foundry is a series devoted to analyzing the nitty-gritty technical details of games. If you don't like that, don't read the articles or threads about them.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Like I said in the previous thread, they should give One owners the option to drop to 900p. In fact, all games over 720p should have variable resolution options if they aren't locked at 30/60.
justsomeguy
Member
this quote is going to see so much use in the coming years
and doubtless it'll get used without the second half of what they said, which was: "So we worked with them directly, they gave us a code update to let us get to full 1080p."
Good guy Microsoft pushing and helping devs to achieve better graphical results?
golfclap
ugh no
I think that based on the responses in here Naughty Dog should have probably offered the 60fps experience at 900p due to the frame drops in tlou on PS4. That would have guaranteed a silky smooth 60fps on the console.
this is a digital foundry thread. we're going to discuss all the technical details no matter how minor. its kind of the point of the thread
Uh right, i forgot Bungie was put in the same situation by MS, aka "Here's our magic, transform this in 1080p". I hope the collateral damages will not be too serious.
Blame teh internet.
EnVy_CaLiBeR
Member
I think people are sensitive to it in this case because of the type of game Diablo is, in which frame rate is key.
But if you watch the video, the drops are so infrequent that the 1080p is worth it. It's really not bad at all.
Welcome to goalpost moving, the thread
Seriously, it's almost entertaining reading all those drama queen comments. And I bet we would have the same whining from many posters if they kept the resolution at 900p ("Such a bad choice, won't somebody please think of the children!").
you're in a thread that's meant to discuss minor technical details complaining about scrutinizing minor technical details
MaximusPayne
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Welcome to goalpost moving, the thread
Seriously, it's almost entertaining reading all those drama queen comments. And I bet we would have the same whining from many posters if they kept the resolution at 900p ("Such a bad choice, won't somebody please think of the children!").
This is basically what I gather.
Your point is that you don't care about the technical details, and that's fine. If discussion of that stuff bothers you, I already provided you with a reasonable solution. If such discussion completely hijacks a thread not devoted to that topic, you can PM a mod about it.
It's Digital Foundry's job to do these analyses. This thread is for discussion about D3's performance and about DF's article. If you don't like technical discussions I would advise you to stay out of these threads.
Doesn't seem too bad to me. Looks like they did pretty well to get it that close.
Sure a solid locked 60 frames per second is preferred over 1080p, but the DF video shows it maintains 60 fps for a lot of the time with some dips to around 56-58 frames and it dropped to 52 for a very short period when there were loads of enemies on screen.
I don't think it will ruin too many peoples experience but I do hope they can patch it some more to help reduce the issue.
Sure a solid locked 60 frames per second is preferred over 1080p, but the DF video shows it maintains 60 fps for a lot of the time with some dips to around 56-58 frames and it dropped to 52 for a very short period when there were loads of enemies on screen.
I don't think it will ruin too many peoples experience but I do hope they can patch it some more to help reduce the issue.
Drops are not bad and acceptable personally i won't be that much of an issue but it's funny looking back at all the PR statements about "play the game not the res" and Phil recent comment.
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Digital Foundry - In-depth technical analysis of games and gaming hardware at Eurogamer.net
BruiserBear
Banned
This thread has had very little technical discussion, and a whole lot of "lol Xbone" discussion. Unfortunately that's what these threads have become.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Uh right, i forgot Bungie was put in the same situation by MS, aka "Here's our magic, transform this in 1080p". I hope the collateral damages will not be too serious.
If you have both platforms and are afraid of performance, get the PS4 version. It's a given even more given the sizable HW gap.
While I agree, in part, those 2 posts are not the one's I would have used to state your case.
In the end, I'm sure anyone who plays this on XB will be just fine.
PeregrinSe7en
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or maybe instead of "blind sheep", it's people who want higher standards instead of lower standards
SneakyStephan
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diablo is one of the few games in which fps barely matters tbh
hold down right mouse button while moving slowly and doing skinnerbox things for hundreds of hours.
60 fps is always way better than 30 but diablo 3 is one of the only games I played with vsync on because a: it tears like shit because their engine sucks and b : the controls barely matter
Gamerblood
Banned
Phil Spencer just said framerate was more important than Resolution. Diablo Was locked at 60fps when it was 900p. He completely contradicted himself, I take him less serious then I already did.
This again. Not that you're wrong but dude your in an analysis thread on a gaming forum. Also, unless you just came through a wormhole it has been this way for quite some time and worst during the PS3/360 days.
well that's going to happen more often when the Xbox One versions are usually technically inferior. unfortunately
the same shit would happen if the PS4 version was worse
You missed the point. I rather support people who want higher standards instead of sub-par garbage and mediocrity some people seem to settle with.
justsomeguy
Member
I don't see an awful lot of technical discussion and analysis in this thread, just a lot of console wars.
So let's try and get it on topic:
What are people's thoughts on:
1) The relatively close performance of the game between the two consoles, despite the alleged 50% power gap? Have they gimped the PS4 version? Should they have added more graphical effects? Should they have dialled back effects on the xbox one to guarantee that 60fps and what effects do we think are the "expensive" ones in a game like D3?
2) Why do we think that the framerate dips occur in some relatively quiet moments? Is it loading ahead of textures, perhaps? Any other factor?
PeregrinSe7en
Member
i guess that bro gamer persona has finally worn off then.