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DF Performance Analysis: Diablo 3 at 1080p on Xbox One
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Jimmyfenix
Member
Except for the first
bloater fight
justsomeguy
Member
tinfoilhatman
all of my posts are my avatar
Right that's my point, how did MS NOT see this coming when seemingly everyone else on the interwebs did?!?!?!
It's not like resolutiongate is new to this gen................
FullMetaltech
Member
I think that gonna be pretty interesting. Im wondering if the XB1 version will have bigger framerate issues with this one when you get into bigger battles.
Yes drops to the 50's is very noticeable and jarring. Also 900p has an advantage over 720p, both are non native on most of todays screens, and 900p resolves detail a bit better.
Yeah just watched the video... not as bad as I had thought but still the trend makes me a bit nervous. I'd take 900p almost every day of the week if it means solid framerate and 1080p would lead to significant drops.
theDeeDubs
Member
Eh if some of you guys actually watch the video or actually play the XB1 version I think you'll find the framerate quite nice. (hint it rarely drops below 60)
Ricerocket
Member
Would be cool if DF can test FPS with max level characters where elites have 4 abilities and your character is spamming things all over the screen rather than a lvl 14 with nothing going on the screen.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Ugh. Really?
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Watching this video makes you wonder why the frame dips? It's hardly doing anything that looks remotely stressful to the console. My IMHO but this looked like an un-optimised game to me.
theDeeDubs
Member
Just ignore him. Don't think I've ever seen him not trolling.
That the PS4 version is superior?
Yes, really! According to DF.
That I have the PC version (day 1) and the PS4 version (day 1)?
Yep, really.
So DF is trolling, too?
Surely run better than Ryse on xbone.
Doug Heffernan
Member
Amazing, isn't it?
Superjay779
Banned
Looks like they made a good decision. I'd rather have the 1080p with sometimes drops to 55fps
I really don't think drops to the 50's are that jarring. Its my personal opinion of course, but do realize that your statements are merely your opinion as well. At the very least, its quite a bit less jarring than a 30fps game dropping to low 20's.
On PC, I would lower settings to get to a solid 60fps, but I would not lower resolution to 900p. I feel its an entirely reasonable decision.
Green Yoshi
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http://www.computerandvideogames.co...encer-on-tomb-raider-and-ones-digital-future/
So Phil Spencer has nothing to say at Microsoft? ;-)
Who said that? How do I gain membership to this "Xbone fans" club?
Watched vids and could not tell a difference which is great news for owners of either console
It's almost as if he's a PR guy who says whatever's convenient at the time to please people.
theDeeDubs
Member
Watching this video makes you wonder why the frame dips? It's hardly doing anything that looks remotely stressful to the console. My IMHO but this looked like an un-optimised game to me.
Yeah, it's strange because more taxing parts from the video hold 60. At least it rarely drops that low (54ish).
Agreed. I honestly would never notice a 5fps change, but that is just me. The Xbox version is also a bit better for my circumstances since I believe you can do split screen online gameplay with only one xbox gold account instead of needing each player to ahve PS+.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
What a weird thing to say there.
I would lower settings as well on my PC screen as well to stick to 1080p. 900p on a 1080p PC screen is a much bigger issue than 900p on a screen you are sitting 5-10 feet from. It was a terrible decision that had no valid and functional thought behind it. But that's par for the course for the XBone, bad decision stacked on bad decision.
Everybody knows this, but I think people still like to treat them seriously because it makes a very easy target.
BruiserBear
Banned
Do you have an XB1?
Especially Rakkis Crossing in act 3 still has unresolved FPS issues that Blizzard just can't seem to fix
ontopic: honestly, if it only drops below 60 FPS in really demanding situations but is otherwise a solid 60, it was the right choice.
Not like Infamous, TLOU remastered, or any game on PS4 really doesn't EVER dip below 60 - which is exactly what's happening here.
An Action RPG is something so dynamic - you can literally kite 30 mobs into the same screen to force the framerate to drop while on the other hand be smooth sailing throughout an entire playthrough if you're lucky.
theDeeDubs
Member
If you watch or play you'll notice that the 1080 bump caused rare drops to around 54ish. It's mostly 60. Seems like a good choice in this case. Some of you seem like this is causing big drops lol.
DarthWalden
Banned
So this game is proof the gap is closing then?
RobRSG
Member
Nope.
Not really no. My old laptop with Intel HD 4000 could handle this game surprisingly well.
shanafan
Member
You have a pretty strong opinion on Xbox One. Are the consistent monthly updates to the Xbox One to further enhance and better the system another bad decision stacked on a bad decision?
I think only one person needs PS+ for the console to allow online multiplayer.
Seems best to wait for the actual proper face-off as no doubt D3 gets much busier later on in the game
I still dont get why this generation DF really needs to do so many articles about a single game especially when it feels like their analysis itself isnt exactly up to scratch sometimes. Less quantity more quality...
ps3ud0 8)
I still dont get why this generation DF really needs to do so many articles about a single game especially when it feels like their analysis itself isnt exactly up to scratch sometimes. Less quantity more quality...
ps3ud0 8)
Again, you seem to not understand how people might have a different opinion than you. Following pretty much all the Digital Foundry threads since next-gen started, there are a vast number of people who are very big on the advantages of having a game render at 1080p. Occasionally dropping to the mid 50's is probably much preferable for these people than lowering resolution to 900p, which I would agree with myself.
Don't forget that we're talking about systems where 30fps is a standard framerate. Dropping from 60fps to 55fps is probably not going to be as jarring for them as it is for you.
You can disagree with it personally, but to say that it has no valid reasoning behind it is plain hyperbole.
Uhhh, no.
MS scurrying to put band-aids on problems it let fester is a neutral decision stacked onto the mountain of bad decisions. That better?
Watching this video makes you wonder why the frame dips? It's hardly doing anything that looks remotely stressful to the console. My IMHO but this looked like an un-optimised game to me.
The game is using a lot of alpha effects, pixels must be evaluated multiple times. At 1080p, this quickly leads to fillrate problems, especially on Xbone considering the low number of ROPs. Only Blizzard knows the real cause though.
But I agree the game seems a bit unoptimized sometimes because of the weird framerate drops it has on PC.
That's a fair point. But then why are some of the people in this thread acting like all of NeoGAF wanted 1080p but now want 900p?
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
I personally prefer higher resolution in most cases. Drops to the low 50s usually aren't that noticable to me.
Whats strange though is Microsofts behaviour.
The other day framerate is king, now we hear that 900p would've been unacceptable and they push for 1080p at the cost of framerate.
I get that Microsoft tries hard to overcome the fact that the XboxOne is the weaker console and they try to make it look as the 10% freed up ressources formerly occupied by kinect would fix the issue and achieve parity between plattforms. But they just straight up build the weaker hardware and they won't be able to fix that anymore.
Just let the issue rest. Don't mention it. Don't make a fuzz about it. Don't talk about when the XboxOne version is worse than the Ps4 version. Don't talk about it when there is parity.
Microsoft can't win here.
Whats strange though is Microsofts behaviour.
The other day framerate is king, now we hear that 900p would've been unacceptable and they push for 1080p at the cost of framerate.
I get that Microsoft tries hard to overcome the fact that the XboxOne is the weaker console and they try to make it look as the 10% freed up ressources formerly occupied by kinect would fix the issue and achieve parity between plattforms. But they just straight up build the weaker hardware and they won't be able to fix that anymore.
Just let the issue rest. Don't mention it. Don't make a fuzz about it. Don't talk about when the XboxOne version is worse than the Ps4 version. Don't talk about it when there is parity.
Microsoft can't win here.
Its a shit engine generally.
I wonder how is framerate in both version on lvl 70 bounties with clone based, hydra + frozen orb Wizard.
I could generally drop from 300 fps to 50 with my build.