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[Soulblighter31]

At which point am i supposed to be impressed from these pictures ? In which instance does this game surpases Half Life Alyx for example ? The fotorealism in that game ? How about Flight Sim ? Or how about:

 

[Mr Moose]

At which point am i supposed to be impressed from these pictures ? In which instance does this game surpases Half Life Alyx for example ? The fotorealism in that game ? How about Flight Sim ? Or how about:

How do you fly to take some of those pics? Got any videos?
Looks like shit on console. I just checked it to see what the new update was, and eh, did they downgrade it again? Shimmering bushes and blurriness :< I just want to get 50 kills with my Skippy.

 

[harmny]

How do you fly to take some of those pics? Got any videos?
Looks like shit on console. I just checked it to see what the new update was, and eh, did they downgrade it again? Shimmering bushes and blurriness :< I just want to get 50 kills with my Skippy.

yeah you should probably wait for the next gen version

 

[Soulblighter31]

How do you fly to take some of those pics? Got any videos?
Looks like shit on console. I just checked it to see what the new update was, and eh, did they downgrade it again? Shimmering bushes and blurriness :< I just want to get 50 kills with my Skippy.

Im not flying You can go on skywalks that are above the street level. You can go up a hill when you get out of the city and you can look at the landscape. Or you can install the double jump augmentation and use some ledges on buildings to reach higher places. The intersting thing is that its all textured and taken care of, even top of buildings you should have no bussiness ever reaching.

Like here. You just go to the skywalk and jump on top of the glass roof

 

[dr guildo]

At which point am i supposed to be impressed from these pictures ? In which instance does this game surpases Half Life Alyx for example ? The fotorealism in that game ? How about Flight Sim ? Or how about:

Doesn't look CGI, unlike Ratchet.
Sorry, but not impressed at all by empty and lifeless cities. Look so flat and too clean to be credible !

 

[Zoro7]

At which point am i supposed to be impressed from these pictures ? In which instance does this game surpases Half Life Alyx for example ? The fotorealism in that game ? How about Flight Sim ? Or how about:

Most overrated game of all time.

 

[jroc74]

Let's be honest. Two years ago, if we saw this photo and someone asked us to identify which is the movie and which is the game, more than 90% would have said the image on the right is from a video game; the left one is a still from the movie.

It's amazing how far we have come in such a short time with the PS5 -- when many of us thought that we are already deep into diminishing returns territory.

Agree.

Thank you for providing better R n C pics than that other poster did that compared it to CP2077.

Take into account that version of Cyberpunk isn't available on these consoles. Ratchet when compared to the console versions of Cyberpunk can be seen as better.

Also they could have at least used a better pic of Rift Apart. Its not hard to find.

When I see stuff like that I instantly think the person is being disingenuous as hell.

 

[dr guildo]

More pics :

 

[harmny]

Let's be honest. Two years ago, if we saw this photo and someone asked us to identify which is the movie and which is the game, more than 90% would have said the image on the right is from a video game; the left one is a still from the movie.

It's amazing how far we have come in such a short time with the PS5 -- when many of us thought that we are already deep into diminishing returns territory.

what are you talking about? some people here are delusional or blind. or trolling

 

[dr guildo]

Agree.

Thank you for providing better R n C pics than that other poster did that compared it to CP2077.

Also they could have at least used a better pic of Rift Apart. Its not hard to find.

When I see stuff like that I instantly think the person is being disingenuous as hell.

Yep,
he says he's not impressed, so why did he choose a screenshot so unrepresentative of the beauty of the game ?
Because he is impressed and lies to himself first, before lying to us.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Also they could have at least used a better pic of Rift Apart. Its not hard to find.

When I see stuff like that I instantly think the person is being disingenuous as hell.

Cyberpunk is a great looking game but only if you have a high end PC. On consoles it looks really poor. Ratchet is a beautiful game on the PS5 and it certainly looks much better than then Cyberpunk on the same platform. Maybe the PC version edges it out in some ways but not the game on consoles. In the end PC will always be ahead due to the rare power that it has. With that said it's amazing that we are even getting a game that looks as good as Ratchet on consoles. When the PS5 was seen as a broken underpowered system I wouldn't have believed that Ratchet was possible. So I'm very happy that games can look that good on the system.

 

[VeganElduderino]

At which point am i supposed to be impressed from these pictures ? In which instance does this game surpases Half Life Alyx for example ? The fotorealism in that game ? How about Flight Sim ? Or how about:

Sorry but Rachet and clank looks organic and alive when you see it in motion , bottom pics looks dead , it does look good in pictures .

 

[Stooky]

At which point am i supposed to be impressed from these pictures ? In which instance does this game surpases Half Life Alyx for example ? The fotorealism in that game ? How about Flight Sim ? Or how about:

It looks so empty. Like a ghost town

 

[killatopak]

Alex not planning to play it?

 

[VFXVeteran]

Eh, but it would be such a waste of resources

Most of the time during gameplay you dont see Ratchet so close to the camera, so that's fine. It looks good enough.

This is the kind of thing that I'm fine with being exclusive to cutscenes.

Just like subsurface scattering during gameplay

Tbh, everyone is judging this game based on the cinematics. The fur in the cinematics isn't rendered the same on the player in gameplay. And yes, you are right, he takes up so little of the screen it's a moot point.

 

[Soulblighter31]

It looks so empty. Like a ghost town

First 2 pics are filled with traffic and commotion. Rest are more deserted because i took at them in the middle of the night or outside the city. You have densely populated areas and less populated areas. Some are more activ midday, others at night.

 

[Epic Sax CEO]

Cyberpunk city looks better on static photos, in movement... the city is dead, it's full of fake cars and brain dead low poly people.

 

[VeganElduderino]

And why are we comparing a open world to a playable PIXAR movie ?

 

[harmny]

Cyberpunk city looks better on static photos, in movement... the city is dead, it's full of fake cars and brain dead low poly people.

i don't want to dissapoint you but r&c cares are fake too. they dissapear after they go around the corner and nobody is driving them. and the city is fake too. there are a couple of lines of buildings and that's it. i know that you think there are actually people living in that city with a day and night cycle that go from home to work and back and live a complex life and you can have a great and deep conversation with them but that's not actually the case. it's just a linear game with a great city looking backdrop

 

[StateofMajora]

LOL incredible.

Seriously dood VFXVeteran Ratchet is going to be the king when it launches.

 

[Thief1987]

know that you think there are actually people living in that city with a day and night cycle that go from home to work and back and live a complex life and you can have a great and deep conversation with them but that's not actually the case

This is valid for cyberpunk too

 

[StateofMajora]

These will probably be in when the game launches. I remember hearing the same thing with no footprints or foliage moving with Ghost a month out, and they were in when it launched.

Or if not, would be a weird oversight for them.

Cyberpunk has less density in the world's atmosphere.

Guarantee they will improve ratchet with patches ; remember the base ps4 version of ratchet remake got the new TAA through patches.

 

[harmny]

This is valid for cyberpunk too

sure but i never expected that for cyberpunk (or the witcher)
the difference is you can actually explore night city. it's not just the backdrop of a linear level.

 

[StateofMajora]

Let's be honest. Two years ago, if we saw this photo and someone asked us to identify which is the movie and which is the game, more than 90% would have said the image on the right is from a video game; the left one is a still from the movie.

It's amazing how far we have come in such a short time with the PS5 -- when many of us thought that we are already deep into diminishing returns territory.

You can tell the one on the right has more polygons and is the movie, but it also looks more dated because of the textures.

 

[LMJ]

minus RT is Cyber77 in general doing much less than very old GTA5 .. on PS3 .. no, heh.

Dude play Crack in Time (PS3) and say that again...I don't know if this just stems from ignorance or blind fanboy bias...but Rift Apart looks awesome and the main draw (The rifts) were certainly not possible last gen...let alone on the PS3 lol

i don't want to dissapoint you but r&c cares are fake too. they dissapear after they go around the corner and nobody is driving them. and the city is fake too. there are a couple of lines of buildings and that's it. i know that you think there are actually people living in that city with a day and night cycle that go from home to work and back and live a complex life and you can have a great and deep conversation with them but that's not actually the case. it's just a linear game with a great city looking backdrop

Well duh, they are there to make the city feel full and it works...dollars to donuts the AI NPCs in Rift Apart aren't anything complicated either, but again they are there for ambience, not to be a full interactive city...That having been said that initial City Ratchet is in is WAY bigger if you pay attention...Grind rails leading somewhere, paths not taken and wide areas not remotely explored yet.

Also can we quit comparing 2077, that game got the shaft people

Ratchet is developed for the PS5 exclusively of course it looks amazing, and later games will look far better and optimized far better as well, CyberPunk was being released on the PC, and PS4 and Xbone, Pro and X, not to mention next gen eventually...

How great would the Witcher III have been if it had to be developed for the PS3/360 as well as PS4Xbone?

Simple truth is publishers got greedy with CP despite numerous staff wanting to focus on next gen and PC instead!

 

[DeepEnigma]

Guarantee they will improve ratchet with patches ; remember the base ps4 version of ratchet remake got the new TAA through patches.

I didn't even know they did that for R&C, sweet!

I do know they did graphical improvements and modes for Spider-Man, so...

 

[FireFly]

Good thing we we have another PC vs console war thread, since we were running short of those.

 

[VFXVeteran]

Doesn't look CGI, unlike Ratchet.

Ratchet doesn't look CGI in gameplay. I never understand why people judge a game's graphics by it's cinematics when they have 0 control of the game loop. I saw this all last gen with every single PS exclusive. Even Horizon: FW was praised for it's cinematics without a single frame of actual gameplay.

 

[Flabagast]

Cyberpunk city looks better on static photos, in movement... the city is dead, it's full of fake cars and brain dead low poly people.

Low poly people ??

look at that, totally random NPCs

 

[hroerekr]

Doesn't look CGI, unlike Ratchet.
Sorry, but not impressed at all by empty and lifeless cities. Look so flat and too clean to be credible !

A lot of what is going on Ratchet's environment is non-interactive and non reachable background noise. Looks gorgeous, but gameplay wise you are just following linear corridors and mini-arenas with scripted events in-between.
An open-world where you can go anywhere and have multiple mechanics and systems running at the same time will use its resources differently.

 

[dr guildo]

Ratchet doesn't look CGI in gameplay. I never understand why people judge a game's graphics by it's cinematics when they have 0 control of the game loop. I saw this all last gen with every single PS exclusive. Even Horizon: FW was praised for it's cinematics without a single frame of actual gameplay.

Most of my shots were gameplay, tho...
You are mistaken CGI with Cinematic.
More CGI shots :

 

[dr guildo]

A lot of what is going on Ratchet's environment is non-interactive and non reachable background noise. Looks gorgeous, but gameplay wise you are just following linear corridors and mini-arenas with scripted events in-between.
An open-world where you can go anywhere and have multiple mechanics and systems running at the same time will use its resources differently.

As if datas streaming doesn't exist, nowadays there is no difference between open world's level of details and linear games, look at RDR2, look at HZD, look at DeathStranding...

 

[dr guildo]

Low poly people ??

look at that, totally random NPCs

Not better than HZD's npc, at best it is the same level of details...

 

[DeepEnigma]

Ratchet doesn't look CGI in gameplay.

You jumped in the thread praising DF with the "unbiased" preload, and they said themselves in their analysis that the game looks "like a computer animated film i.e. CGI"... during gameplay.



You're always way too serious. No fun allowed!

 

[Kangx]

Most of my shots were gameplay, tho...
You are mistaken CGI with Cinematic.
More CGI shots :

Holy shit. It does indeed look like cgi. Someone need their eyes check otherwise.

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

I knew before clicking the thread you’d be here. It’s like you can’t help yourself.
Anyway looking forward to playing this. I love me some Ratchet and Clank.

VFX is the Karen of Ratchet and Clank threads

 

[LMJ]

A lot of what is going on Ratchet's environment is non-interactive and non reachable background noise. Looks gorgeous, but gameplay wise you are just following linear corridors and mini-arenas with scripted events in-between.
An open-world where you can go anywhere and have multiple mechanics and systems running at the same time will use its resources differently.

Look or watch again, there are giant open worlds where you can go all over I'm sure (they even stated this in the vid)

But more importantly, watch the intro again, there is a grind rail that leads somewhere, numerous paths going elsewhere, the bizarre is far larger than we thin and you can go on the roofs as well.

If you've ever played a R and C game before the levels are huge and often have branching and open paths...linear is not what I would call them, sans the first game, Deadlocked, All4One and QFB/ITN anyway

 

[VFXVeteran]

You jumped in the thread praising DF with the "unbiased" preload, and they said themselves in their analysis that the game looks "like a computer animated film i.e. CGI"... during gameplay.

I don't care what they say. No one has authority on how something looks. It clearly doesn't look like CG in gameplay. That's the most ridiculous statement I've heard on these boards.

 

[VFXVeteran]

Low poly people ??

look at that, totally random NPCs

Extremely expensive pixels make a game get closer to CG like this video. You won't begin to approach CG unless you start using a full on RT pipeline. If you zoomed in on any assets in gameplay in R&C, the look would break down. That's just facts. Overall presentation with many colors and excellent level design will only get you so far.

 

[Thief1987]

VFX is the Karen of PS games threads

Fixed

 

[dotnotbot]

I don't care what they say. No one has authority on how something looks. It clearly doesn't look like CG in gameplay. That's the most ridiculous statement I've heard on these boards.

Clearly doesn't look becuase you say so? I thought no one has authority on how something looks.

 

[Paulxo87]

What do you suppose goes thru phil's head when he watches the new ratchet footage. One could argue he does not give a fuck about the game culture wars and he just does what he does/collects his fat ass salary and moves on with his day. However if he's a man with any character/balls you know it hurts him deeply.
My ego would be in tatters personally. I could not sit there and just take cock slaps every other month to the face from sony like they do to him and his brand on a consistent basis

 

[Thief1987]

What do you suppose goes thru phil's head when he watches the new ratchet footage. One could argue he does not give a fuck about the game culture wars and he just does what he does/collects his fat ass salary and moves on with his day. However if he's a man with any character/balls you know it hurts him deeply.
My ego would be in tatters personally. I could not sit there and just take cock slaps every other month to the face from sony like they do to him and his brand on a consistent basis

He somehow survived lastgen, should be pretty used to that))

 

[harmny]

What do you suppose goes thru phil's head when he watches the new ratchet footage. One could argue he does not give a fuck about the game culture wars and he just does what he does/collects his fat ass salary and moves on with his day. However if he's a man with any character/balls you know it hurts him deeply.
My ego would be in tatters personally. I could not sit there and just take cock slaps every other month to the face from sony like they do to him and his brand on a consistent basis

Phil's mind: hmm what do I need to do to get blind zealots like ps fanboys

 

[VFXVeteran]

Clearly doesn't look becuase you say so? I thought no one has authority on how something looks.

I love love love the Xbox gamers! Their minds aren't diluted. Possibly because they know their games will be shared with PC and so that keeps their heads level. Can't wait for the Sony ports to get rid of this nonsense jargon.

Carry on...

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Most of my shots were gameplay, tho...
You are mistaken CGI with Cinematic.
More CGI shots :

He's mad that no PC platformer can even be mentioned in the same sentence as R&C.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

I love love love the Xbox gamers! Their minds aren't diluted. Possibly because they know their games will be shared with PC and so that keeps their heads level. Can't wait for the Sony ports to get rid of this nonsense jargon.

Carry on...

What Sony ports?
The select PS4 hand me downs?

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Holy shit. It does indeed look like cgi. Someone need their eyes check otherwise.

When you are insecure of a $399 console it blurs your vision.

 

[MasterCornholio]

What do you suppose goes thru phil's head when he watches the new ratchet footage. One could argue he does not give a fuck about the game culture wars and he just does what he does/collects his fat ass salary and moves on with his day. However if he's a man with any character/balls you know it hurts him deeply.
My ego would be in tatters personally. I could not sit there and just take cock slaps every other month to the face from sony like they do to him and his brand on a consistent basis

I'm pretty sure Microsoft knows they have to show what 12TFs is capable of. At the very least they have to beat the best that a 10.2TFs system is capable of.

 

[El Pistolero]

Phil's mind: hmm what do I need to do to get blind zealots like ps fanboys

He's probably more interested in supporting a podcast with you running both your mouth and the PR fueled program.