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Digital Foundry - Assassin's Creed Unity patch analysed
- Thread starter stryke
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Triggerhappytel
Member
Ubisoft really are on fire lately. They've officially taken the place EA used to occupy a few years back.
I highly doubt this game will ever run good. Or ever *was* going to. They were asking too much.
Sounds similar to something I said in the Far Cry 4 thread.
I disagree somewhat with their reasoning about not showing averages for games close to their FPS cap but I responded to that article with an idea which I will repeat here.
Why don't they take the most strenuous 120 seconds on the PS4 and compare it to the same section on Xbox One and not any differences and then do the same the other way around by comparing the most strenuous 120 second on Xbox One and comparing it to the PS4.
To take GTA:V as an easy example that would be 120 seconds of free driving through the heavy intersections vs 120 seconds of shootouts. They can then see which platforms performs worse relative to the other in the most intense sections and along with their general game play information it gives you a pretty rounded picture of performance.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Asha's balls in my throat?
25 FPS average in SP and 23 FPS average in Co-op
Jesus H .. this is easily the worst game from a AAA publisher in my recent memory.
Jesus H .. this is easily the worst game from a AAA publisher in my recent memory.
Learn to read a graph and what is an average fps
While playing the game the framerate doesn't feels different from previous AC.
Really good game with big improvments comparer to AC3.
And graphics are amazing, first time since Infamous That i'm surprized by graphics.
2mad2behere
Neo Member
They weren't asking too much per se, they just didn't bother to find out how to get it from the hardware available. I mean even the PC version is CPU bottleneckked like a motherfucker.
dat cinematic feel
A frame above the standard 24fps. I think they were on track pre-patch
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This patch was pretty pointless. I realize they're trying to get this fixed as soon as possible but they shouldn't rush them out the door.
Windom Earle
Banned
Yeah, that average framerate is shameful!
PC version is quite possibly a different sort of CPU bottleneck, dealing with excessive draw calls.
Anyways, its entirely possible that the game, as is designed, was never going to run well on the consoles. You cant always magic your way into optimizing a game and having it run brilliantly. They might well have needed to go and make some cuts to things. Things that might not be 'cuttable' at this stage.
TommyTosser
Member
Fuck it can't wait any longer. Gonna buy it today and just try and cope.
toddhunter
Member
They are almost there. 1fps is within the margin of error, but an extra 2fps is a significant game changer.
jim-jam bongs
Member
UBethesdaSoft
MMaRsu
Gold Member
The fuck? Why even buy this garbage and reward Ubisoft for shitty practices??
2mad2behere
Neo Member
Learn to read a graph and what is an average fps
While playing the game the framerate doesn't feels different from previous AC.
Really good game with big improvments comparer to AC3.
And graphics are amazing, first time since Infamous That i'm surprized by graphics.
What the hell are you saying? FPS is below 25 almost all the time in Unity. And it really does feel different when I can boot up PS4, start up AC4 run around in smooth jungles and towns and then try to run around in Paris with huge dips in framerate all the time. And it is running it in 1080p.
There are improvements compared to AC3 as there should be since it was an awful game that performed average at best. But this games improvements are mostly in the game mechanics section, not in the graphics section because it runs with a lower framerate than AC3.
If that is the case it is terrible design from the top down. It is not like they are incapable of bringing out games that are very good technically. AC:IV was and so is Far Cry 4 so why did they miss the mark so badly here?
In honesty I think it is more that they did not have time to complete their rounds of optimisation prior to release and they wanted it out for the holidays.
TheThunder
Member
Orniletter
Banned
Well, they did say you "might notice" some fps improvements.
They weren´t kidding.
They weren´t kidding.
2mad2behere
Neo Member
Please don't do that, the only way shit like this will stop is if people simply wont buy sub-par products.
TommyTosser
Member
Because weirdly enough i enjoy Assassins creed and want to explore the game.
struggler_guts
Gold Member
MMaRsu
Gold Member
Well get it used then. Dont reward this kind of shit man. I enjoy AC as well but at least make a stand or something. You gonna new buy this your letting Ubisoft know its okay to launch a broken gane.
It is an extra 0.5 FPS but as the article states they cannot 100% match gameplay so it is not like for like putting it well within the margin of error for such a test. They would have to do 100's of gameplay sessions, average them out and then see if there is a sustained advantage to nullify the run to run variance.
On the bright side while it did say there should be FPS improvements for this patch they also said the big gains are in the next one and this one does fix a lot of bugs so it is still a step forward. That is not to say that this state of affairs is acceptable though as this should have been done prior to launch.
Last gen it was quite common so while it was not the best it came to be accepted.
This gen there is a greater effort being made to sustain a locked frame rate and the majority of games are locked or practically locked to their target. In essence the competition has improved so Ubi need to step it up.
There's a great game underneath the huge pile of shit. Trust me.
the_batman
Banned
if you enjoy AC then you should be used to this as well. it's only been going on for 7 years.
2mad2behere
Neo Member
At this point I do agree that the game will be shit graphically and performance wise, no matter what they will do. I just hope people won't buy what is at best a broken product, because it is the only way shit like this will stop with Ubi, AC and industry in general.
MMaRsu
Gold Member
At least tell him to buy used. Christ I cant understand some people like to get screwed by a shitty company such as this.
Patch wasn't meant to improve general performance. It seems to fix some of the bad dips though.
Anyway, just got my copy and will enjoy it at 25fps, sounds like a great framerate to me. We Europeans are accustomed to 50hz TVs anyway, so 25fps is our 30fps (never understood how 30fps is a great framerate for most games while 25fps is absolutely unplayable).
Anyway, just got my copy and will enjoy it at 25fps, sounds like a great framerate to me. We Europeans are accustomed to 50hz TVs anyway, so 25fps is our 30fps (never understood how 30fps is a great framerate for most games while 25fps is absolutely unplayable).
2mad2behere
Neo Member
Yeah, but you are only helping make the series worse. If they get low sales there is a real chance they will change the development and series to better.
TommyTosser
Member
I know it's unacceptable but i just really want to play the game after really enjoying black flag.
"There's a great game underneath the huge pile of shit. Trust me."
^This
I just want to play the game.
what age are you living in?
2mad2behere
Neo Member
No it isn't, 30 FPS is our 30 FPS. 25 FPS is choppy at best of times.
Caayn
Member
Folks simply don't care enough. Just like with the past AC games...
Just like they, and I, don't care what you think of them buying AC.
the_batman
Banned
just wait until it's like 20 bucks.
2mad2behere
Neo Member
Then at least get a used copy.
MMaRsu
Gold Member
I really enjoyed Black Flag as well but its hard earned money you are putting down for a broken shoddy product. At least buy it used from somebody.
LeFAIS
Member
Could you tell me what program and the time of broadcast please?
MMaRsu
Gold Member
TommyTosser
Member
Yeah there's no way i'd pay full price. I'll look for a reduced or preowned copy. Probably thousands of them floating around in the shops.
The message has already been sent to Ubisoft loud and clear. They're already losing money due to low launch sales of AC Unity. Not to mention, they are getting raked through the coals throughout gaming media. I hadn't seen a company get this amount of scrutiny, since the launch of the DMR featured Xbox One.
Trust me, Ubisoft will have to change course. The fact they're already giving out for free, two of their new titles (Far Cry 4, The Crew) to season pass owners, speaks volumes.
Well, that's kinda how we've ended up here and how further broken its gotten.