struggler_guts
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Digital Foundry - Assassin's Creed Unity patch analysed
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Good man.
In an age where 5fps is still only 16% of 30fps and won't make the difference between fine and completely unplayable.
rockman zx
Member
I guess I will wait unti patch #24 to play Unity.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Cinematic.
*lol*
That was a joke but still 30fps is such an arbitrary number. If NTSC had been 50hz instead of 60hz that magic number would be 25fps nowadays, even if nobody cares about these old standards anymore.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
HD video games run at 60hz on European TVs, too. 25fps on a 60Hz 1080p HDTV will not run smoothly.
The point of 30 fps games is that they're running at half the refresh rate of your TV and will be perfectly synced. Anything less introduces judder or tearing.
Herb Alpert
Banned
So dumb.
The game was developed to sell on its screenshots. Official ones, not the freaky hairy lippy monsters ones.
"but the hardware won't be able to manage all this!
-Nevermind, do this anyway! more effects! more NPCs! More incredibly next-gen lighting features!"
The sad part is that the game probably sold millions.
The game was developed to sell on its screenshots. Official ones, not the freaky hairy lippy monsters ones.
"but the hardware won't be able to manage all this!
-Nevermind, do this anyway! more effects! more NPCs! More incredibly next-gen lighting features!"
The sad part is that the game probably sold millions.
I don't think we'll ever see the day that we don't see any games that perform sub-par. Deadlines, release window competition, production costs and the *need* to recoup those costs will always mean we see games put out that aren't in the best shape.
I don't think its fair to say that the game is 'broken at best'. At best, from what people playing it have said, its a pretty good AC game that just has performance problems. At worst, its broken. Really depends on your sensitivity to this stuff. I used to be able to play games with terrible performance just fine. Cant anymore, but I'm sure there's still lots who can.
Far Cry 4 seems to be quite a good effort, on the other hand. Watch Dogs also performs quite well. Its clear that Ubisoft can put out, and care about putting out games that perform well. I think they just stuffed the boat with Unity. I wont be buying it(not anytime soon, at least), but I don't have any issue with others buying it if they really want to. I am glad to see more people with increasing standards, though.
WordsintheWater
Member
This really effing sucks, hope patch 4 makes it better, but I'm not expecting it to.
2mad2behere
Neo Member
Yeah, it does, that they presume people will be persuaded with free stuff easily. It isn't even a month since the launch and if people start buying it they will just say, hey look we fixed it and it is business as usual. At least give it time for the quarter to finish so they really see it in their finances, or buy used copies.
struggler_guts
Gold Member
You know I think I might actually do that...
What? 50hz its a thing from the early 90s
it's not an arbitrary number.
Your current 1080p TV refreshes at 60Hz. a new image every 16milliseconds.
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30FPS means a new image every second time your TV would display a new frame.
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25FPS means refresh rate and frame rate don't match up to a proper ratio
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you get tearing and judder
it's anything but arbitrary
if modern TVs would display at 50hz, we'd argue about 25 vs 50 fps.
They just basically removed the lighting effect that made the game look good. It doesn't even look amazing anymore.
And they only gained a marginal fps improvement.
Most modern TVs here (don't know about the US) come in multiples of 100hz.
Wtf are you talking about? They haven't removed anything.
Biggest generational leap of all time.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
So what. Videogames still don't run in 25Hz/50Hz on European HDTVs.
the PS4 outputs at a frequency of 60Hz (59.94 Hz to be exact) though. It has nothing to do with the capabilities of your TV.
you can have a 4000hz TV. If it gets a torn image from your PS4, there's nothing it could do about that.
orfax
Member
Back to the dark ages. PAL level gaming right there.
Even the 50hz TVs are compatible with 60hz here in Europe
PodcastFips
Member
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Well sad fact it's cheaper to downgrade then optimize, the former would result in outrage though.
Windom Earle
Banned
That is some next level nonsense. (If you are serious)
Palette Swap
Member
At least they fixed the glaring framerate glitches.
Now it just runs like shit like every past AC game did on PS3.
Now it just runs like shit like every past AC game did on PS3.
publicpwnerer
Member
I'd say the massive backlash, huge stock price drop and the outrage of the entirety of the internet as well as some main stream publications...coupled with their damage control blog, patches and free game giveaway is proof positive of the situation not being okay, or being 'accepted' in any way.
But keep fighting the good fight my man.
They should seriously trim down the number of NPC.
So many is useless, no one will notice if there's a few hundreds missing, and at the moment they're an eyesore anymore because they're crippled with pop in, weird bugs and LOD issues.
NOS Journaal on NPO 1, It's on now. They'll probably repeat it until 12:00 pm.
I already wrote I am not. I give you all the smooth vs. not that smooth but sure not the playable vs. not playable.
I have yet to check it out myself, but I have now 2 people (normal people) who played it who didn't even know what I was talking about when I asked them if they had problems with the framerate.
Windom Earle
Banned
As people explained to you, 30fps is not an arbitrary number and anything less... Just feels horrible. Also what are "normal" people?
CyanideFuse
Member
MMaRsu
Gold Member
Thanks!
Agreed, but I don't think Unity will sell at the pace of it's predecessors. The damage to this game's rep has been done. Even if some of the die-hards continue to buy this, they lost a ton of casuals....and a lot of even their die-hards fans, behind this. Ubisoft would be the dumbest company ever, to think they can pull this same kind of crap with their next games, next year.
Interesting...
From the last couple of analyses for games like GTA V and this game, I thought DF didn't really consider "margins of error." The average fps between the xbone an ps4 versions of those games were pretty much a difference within this "margin of error" yet didn't they state it as if it was a clear and definite advantage for the xbone?
M°°nblade
Banned
Ofcourse 25 fps is not 'unplayable', but it's clearly less smooth than 30 fps and it hurts the gameplay.
I percieve a bigger difference between 25 fps and 30 fps than between 30 fps and 60 fps.
I was planning on getting up-to-date with the AC franchise and finally buy ACIII&IV but unless they fix this, I'm not investing a single euro in this franchise.
Its sad because underneath all the shit theres a decent game, but this game got rushed so badly. Like, Sonic 2006 bad levels of rush.
Not only the framerate problems, glitches, the huge loading times... hell even a lot of the best gear is blocked by an online mode that isnt in the game yet, meaning that you cant customize your assassin with the best gear no matter what.
Such an horrible management from Ubisoft
Not only the framerate problems, glitches, the huge loading times... hell even a lot of the best gear is blocked by an online mode that isnt in the game yet, meaning that you cant customize your assassin with the best gear no matter what.
Such an horrible management from Ubisoft
The framerate is mostly due to all the different micro-transactions that compute data in realtime, in this game. We have some chests that only open via the broken companion app. We have some chests that only open via Initiates website. We have some chests that only open via Uplay. we have some skills and upgrades that can be purchased via Helix pts. All of this is overtaxing the servers!!! All the mindless NPCs don't help. They're never gonna have this game running at 30fps.
For a cinematic feel. Hope this doesn't become a norm this gen
Garrett Hawke
Member
It baffles me how there are people trying to spin this into a "next gen consoles are too weak!!!" issue. It just sounds like PC master race nonsense considering Ubi's games are not really optimised for any platform. I remember back when AC2 came out and I struggled to hit 30 on it on my actually good back then PC. Then with AC4 there was the whole yes you can run this at 30, but good luck getting it to 60 without insane hardware.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I guess you missed the DF article on Watch_Dogs for Wii U that came out recently.
killatopak
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