SegaSnatcher
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That's interesting, VGTech's analysis showed both PS5 and Series X hitting 60fps 99.9% of the time in 60fps mode.
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[Digital Foundry] COD Black Ops Cold War: PS5 vs Xbox Series X - Ray Tracing, 120Hz Mode Tests + Series S Analysis!
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Redlancet
Banned
nah,stop streading bs,dualsense is awesome,the sooner you accept that the less if gonna hurt on the long term
Werewolfgrandma
Banned
It's a very dynamic game isn't it? Going by every other cod game some levels will be more demanding than others.
Oh wow. I CALLED THIS. Any game that uses NEXT-GEN features and more complex effects will perform better on the XSX with 40% more CUs. Any game that has simpler effects will perform better with lower CUs and higher clocks. It just makes sense.Nope,
Ray tracing tanked the PS5 in several scenes.
eNT1TY
Member
Someone or something fucked up big time when the stronger console is trading blows with the weaker one consistently. Parity should not have been possible and all these recent releases 99 percent of the time both games are indistinguishable. The dropped frames for Xbox in 120hz mode account for less than a fraction of a percent of an entire play through and the dropped frames on 60hz rt mode of ps5 also account for lest than a fraction of a percent of an entire play through. Xbox should be maintaining a lead of atleast 20% across the board 100 percent of the time in all modes, the green bar and the blue bars should NEVER be touching. For every second the xbox or ps5 is ahead in frame rate they are dead even the rest of the time. Until that changes PS5 wins ever single one of these comparisons by virtue of the xbox flatly underperforming. There is no victory to be had for a 7th grader when he is trading blows with a 4th grader in the playground.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Ouch. Cod and dmc5 seems to show a glimpse of what SX can deliver over time. At best graphics settings, we are seeing a small but consistent win on SX.
It also seems 120hz on SX may need more mature dev/profiling tools. Normally, you win max settings, you win high fps too. It's unlikely a cpu bottleneck for SX.
Can't wait for wave2 of next gen games, devs will get more time they need to utilize MS GDK.
According to VG Tech, this drop is random on the PlayStation 5.
Jimmyisback
Banned
Xbox showing that power of extra compute units.
As games use more NextGen effects expect the gap to widen. PS5 excels for lastgen engines and effects. They have to turn off all Nextgen effects for 120fps modes.
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SegaSnatcher
Member
To be fair that happens during a in game cinematic. Not trying to excuse it, but way different than hitting that low in actual gameplay.
Chukhopops
Member
That’s like saying you finished the race half an hour after everybody, but it’s still a win for you because you’re fat and you smoke.
eNT1TY
Member
There needs to be a gap first, hasn't happened yet.
reinking
Gold Member
I don't think it was cut down. I think that is an explosion that happened to be in frame on the PS5 version and they are not lined up exactly. Unless you are seeing something else.Unfortunately, it appears that visuals were cut down on the series x and s to maintain a competing frame rate against the ps5. I don't know why digital foundry didn't notice
Kind of funny how much negativity can be taken away from a video in which DF had so many positive things to say. This goes for both sides.
THEAP99
Banned
unrelated but please change ur avatar. it makes me really angry
AntonioBanderasXsX
Member
This doesn't fit the narrative. Stop the count!!
eNT1TY
Member
No, thats saying the fat smoker tied the race. If you can't outrun a fat smoker as a non fat smoker you need to run better.
FrankWza
Member
No it’s not. It’s like telling everyone you’re going to win a race by a half an hour every time you race and then you lose every race by a few seconds to a minute. Because that’s what was happening for about 6 months and that’s what’s happening now. It wasn’t supposed to even be close. Hhahaha
captainraincoat
Banned
If Digtal foundry are MS shills then VG tech are the PlayStation version...except lower budget
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
You were in comparison threads that featured his content and now you want to ask me "Who is Vgtech"?
VGTech's COD Cold War 120FPS mode comparison
So now xbox fans not only have to wait on games, they also have to wait on tools. Wait for games? Is this why never in any console launch history more different games have been played? More than any PlayStation launch? Is this why? Because there are no games? Right.
Hawking Radiation
Member
thelastword
Banned
Do you remember a time when there was a particular issue on XBOX where some quite a few game's performance got worse as they played on and Dark10x constantly restarted his XBOX to ensure he got the right framerates? I think it was Tomb Raider, well that was one game in many which showed the issue, if have been following faceoffs....
So PS drops in cutscenes and immediately the dialogue changes, no more "Explain this to me John", it's straight to.... "PS has been winning many faceoffs, don't know what's that about", to in this faceoff "Series X takes a MASSIVE lead in the raytracing 60fps mode"......No curiosity, It's clearly no bug on PS5 you see, was the developer informed? I guess not, it's not like this is par for the course for PS5 so far now is it.....
So apart from PS5 having better lighting, better textures, more effects/smoke whilst firing guns...Vgtech specifically said that the PS5 will drop frames in one scene and when he restarts that scene it runs perfectly locked........I guess bugs can only happen on one console....I hope Raven Software was contacted by our gesticulating friend.....I mean he always contact the devs when bugs appear right?
Vgtech was transparent and fair enough to reveal this, 8 days ago.....
Wow, can you imagine what the real stats are when they run the game unaffected by the bug..........The stats..
Look at all the specs, 4k mode, percentage of the game being run at 16.67MS, identical....The only difference is in the 120 mode which PS5 wins and PS5 has less torn frames too along with better effects....
I hope the developer is made aware of the bug, can't wait for them to fix this......
Well Series S is whatever the series X is doing at 1440p....It's why 1440p support was such a a gamechanging feature prior to launch...The series s version is a total mess! Low quality textures, no RT, no 120hz mode no shadows etc
dafuq?!
Thirty7ven
Banned
Finally we have a generation where these comparisons have truly become meaningless.
It will now be extremely interesting to see how first party games compare.
It will now be extremely interesting to see how first party games compare.
MasterCornholio
Member
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Do you remember a time when there was a particular issue on XBOX where some quite a few game's performance got worse as they played on and Dark10x constantly restarted his XBOX to ensure he got the right framerates? I think it was Tomb Raider, well that was one game in many which showed the issue, if have been following faceoffs....
So PS drops in cutscenes and immediately the dialogue changes, no more "Explain this to me John", it's straight to.... "PS has been winning many faceoffs, don't know what's that about", to in this faceoff "Series X takes a MASSIVE lead in the raytracing 60fps mode"......No curiosity, It's clearly no bug on PS5 you see, was the developer informed? I guess not, it's not like this is par for the course for PS5 so far now is it.....
So apart from PS5 having better lighting, better textures, more effects/smoke whilst firing guns...Vgtech specifically said that the PS5 will drop frames in one scene and when he restarts that scene it runs perfectly locked........I guess bugs can only happen on one console....I hope Raven Software was contacted by our gesticulating friend.....I mean he always contact the devs when bugs appear right?
Vgtech was transparent and fair enough to reveal this, 8 days ago.....
Wow, can you imagine what the real stats are when they run the game unaffected by the bug..........The stats..
Look at all the specs, 4k mode, percentage of the game being run at 16.67MS, identical....The only difference is in the 120 mode which PS5 wins and PS5 has less torn frames too along with better effects....
I hope the developer is made aware of the bug, can't wait for them to fix this......
Well Series S is whatever the series X is doing at 1440p....It's why 1440p support was such a a gamechanging feature prior to launch...
Wow.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
20fps is meaningless?
MasterCornholio
Member
Those drops didn't last long and they were rare. Other than that the rest of the IQ was the same. Definitely not another Bayonetta type situation here.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You were in comparison threads that featured his content and now you want to ask me "Who is Vgtech"?
VGTech's COD Cold War 120FPS mode comparison
So now xbox fans not only have to wait on games, they also have to wait on tools. Wait for games? Is this why never in any console launch history more different games have been played? More than any PlayStation launch? Is this why? Because there are no games? Right.www.neogaf.com
You’re falling for the trolling.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Never seen so much wasted energy for virtual parity. Save your energy for Cyberpunk fellow warriors.
The frame-rate on both modes on both console is pretty much locked most of the time, with rare drops during certain set pieces. They repeatedly said there is nothing between them 99% of the time.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
That gonna be a bloodbath. Especially if it’s Cyberbug 2077.
Halo is Back
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MasterCornholio
Member
Really neat how the performance is way better than Call of Duty Ghosts.
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anothertech
Member
If it's parity, it's a win for PS5. Cause it's $100 less.
If ps5 performs better in any mode, Xbox is inexplicably fucked. Cause it's $100 more.
Everyone has already dismissed S, because it is a joke.
Sony: 4
MS: 0
Dam. No one predicted this.
If ps5 performs better in any mode, Xbox is inexplicably fucked. Cause it's $100 more.
Everyone has already dismissed S, because it is a joke.
Sony: 4
MS: 0
Dam. No one predicted this.
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Chiggs
Member
I just got done watching the DF video without looking at this thread first. Looks like this is a win for the Series X?
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
Very good post. Looks like, outside the bug, it’s essentially parity between PS5 and XSX with the PS5 looking slightly better on 60fps RT.Do you remember a time when there was a particular issue on XBOX where some quite a few game's performance got worse as they played on and Dark10x constantly restarted his XBOX to ensure he got the right framerates? I think it was Tomb Raider, well that was one game in many which showed the issue, if have been following faceoffs....
So PS drops in cutscenes and immediately the dialogue changes, no more "Explain this to me John", it's straight to.... "PS has been winning many faceoffs, don't know what's that about", to in this faceoff "Series X takes a MASSIVE lead in the raytracing 60fps mode"......No curiosity, It's clearly no bug on PS5 you see, was the developer informed? I guess not, it's not like this is par for the course for PS5 so far now is it.....
So apart from PS5 having better lighting, better textures, more effects/smoke whilst firing guns...Vgtech specifically said that the PS5 will drop frames in one scene and when he restarts that scene it runs perfectly locked........I guess bugs can only happen on one console....I hope Raven Software was contacted by our gesticulating friend.....I mean he always contact the devs when bugs appear right?
Vgtech was transparent and fair enough to reveal this, 8 days ago.....
Wow, can you imagine what the real stats are when they run the game unaffected by the bug..........The stats..
Look at all the specs, 4k mode, percentage of the game being run at 16.67MS, identical....The only difference is in the 120 mode which PS5 wins and PS5 has less torn frames too along with better effects....
I hope the developer is made aware of the bug, can't wait for them to fix this......
Well Series S is whatever the series X is doing at 1440p....It's why 1440p support was such a a gamechanging feature prior to launch...
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Thats wierd I swear they were the same price for most buyers, the people on this board said they were buying the disc version. Plus sony sold like 8 ps5 digital, so it's largely irrelevant.
In addition, the series X offers a way better value long term if you want to get into price, with gamepass just flat out saving gamers money.
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DarkParadise
Member
Why you act like the PS5 RT mode runs at 40fps all the time? As far as DF has shown, it only dipped in cutscenes and certain scenarios. It’s 60fps almost all the time during actual gameplay.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
I bet Digital Foundry won’t be contacting the devs to fix the issue.According to VG Tech, this drop is random on the PlayStation 5.
Chiggs
Member
Certain scenarios = big set pieces.
Why am I bringing this up? Not to be punitive, but after looking at the chest-thumping in the Valhalla and Watch Dogs threads, fair is fair.
anothertech
Member
When cyberpunk is showing same results, parity in normal mode, 120fps edge to ps5...
Some people gonna lose their shit.
Some people gonna lose their shit.
Gamerguy84
Member
Whooo damn this is close. Next gen is packing some punch, fudging nice.
Hawking Radiation
Member
Yeah I see some familiar roaches that went AWOL.
Some of these roaches are calling a win for Series X when even Digital Foundry says both games perform equally well.
The desperation levels for any sort of a win BUAHAHA !!!
Krappadizzle
Member
It's a bigger difference than what they showed with Valhalla. I called this shit a while ago for all the die hard Sony Ponies. SX gonna get some wins, PS5 will get some wins, we'll start seeing the SX pull away as we get further in the Gen. But again, when the differences are like this, it's like a tallest midget contest, only people that care are the ones emotionally invested in it. Neither consoles "wins" are so drastic that it's give either camp buyers remorse so it'll just entrench all the mouth breathers to fight even harder for their preferred plastic and the cycle continues. PC gamers just have to sit and laugh.
timmyp53
Member
It's looking very likely that game runs suboptimal on PS4/Xbox One(X1X should be better). Who knows when next gen versions will come out. Its gonna be awhile.