SamastahSukhino
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If you mean smooth as chunky peanut butter I agree.
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Digital Foundry: Hands-on with Halo 5: Guardians
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GameWhisperer
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Looks good enough yes, not a graphics powerhouse but people put too much emphasis on graphics anyway.,
GameWhisperer
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HUH? You cannot be serious with this...Destiny is great to play and smooth 100% of the time. There is nothing that's not smooth about it's gameplay. You don't need to tear down a game because you have an affinity for another.
SamastahSukhino
Banned
I love destiny , but our definition of smooth is different. No worries.
You guys should watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MrClWBkKEI&feature=youtu.be&t=262 to see how crazy the campaign can get and how it keep the smooth framerate.
Agent Icebeezy
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60fps, I'm happy, it's going to be buttery smooth then when I get it.
GameWhisperer
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No there is only 1 definition of smooth. Maybe on Xbox it isn't? Just asking because on PS4 it is rock solid, and I don;t know anyone who has played it that says otherwise.
Garrett 2U
Member
You guys should watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MrClWBkKEI&feature=youtu.be&t=262 to see how crazy the campaign can get and how it keep the smooth framerate.
It's so muddy, I can barely see what's going on.
How did this article take a completely different view on the game after that previous promo vid?
It's almost like it was another game being played here between the 2?!?!?
There's a pretty big difference between a solid 30 and locked, smooth 60.
The interesting thing about Destiny is that it has pretty much the same input response time as Halo 4 MCC (86ms vs 83ms), despite being 30fps whilst the latter is 60fps. So there isn't actually a gameplay deficit with it being 30fps per se, only the aesthetic element of a less smooth looking experience.
I think people just need to accept that this gen comes with trade-offs, much like every other gen. The sooner the better, because devs can't cater to eachs individual preference. Graphics (to me) are something that you look at like once or twice and I don't play games, because of teir graphics. I play them, because the gameplay looks like fun and maybe they even come with a good story.
Halo 4 pretty much proved that for me, because I wasn't impressed with the gameplay and neither was I impressed with the story, which was okay at best. 343i trying to squeeze everything out of the Xbox 360 and sacrificing it for the graphics wasn't a very good choice, in my eyes. But luckily Halo 5 looks way more fun in terms of actual gameplay and it being 60FPS helps a lot. I'm totally okay with 343i's choice to go with dynamic resolution and 60FPS. Now let's hope they knock it out of the park with the gameplay and the story.
This tech discussion is always fun, because there's really no ending to it. Some people will never be satisfied, so I'm eager to see what the next gen will look like and how people will react to it.
Halo 4 pretty much proved that for me, because I wasn't impressed with the gameplay and neither was I impressed with the story, which was okay at best. 343i trying to squeeze everything out of the Xbox 360 and sacrificing it for the graphics wasn't a very good choice, in my eyes. But luckily Halo 5 looks way more fun in terms of actual gameplay and it being 60FPS helps a lot. I'm totally okay with 343i's choice to go with dynamic resolution and 60FPS. Now let's hope they knock it out of the park with the gameplay and the story.
This tech discussion is always fun, because there's really no ending to it. Some people will never be satisfied, so I'm eager to see what the next gen will look like and how people will react to it.
qa_engineer
Member
Whats the point of making a post like this? Even though its a cross gen game the engine can have a ton of on screen objects and effects at any given time and the frame rate does not fluctuate. The game is completely smooth.
Thank you i could not have said that better. If you want 4k 144 fps go to pc, you know what the console can output so stop acting surprised when you don't get your perfect visual masterpiece.
I'm in the camp that's for smooth expansive, and feature heavy gameplay. Graphic will always be 2nd class to me (as long as they are reasonable.)
AdmiralSnackbar
Member
Incredibly disappointing. 343 couldn't have made a visual evolution of Black ops 2? They couldn't even shoot for a visual evolution of Bloodborn?
Preorder demoted to standard edition....
.....without day one shipping
The Sum of Zero
Member
There's a little setting on the YouTube video. You know, so you can watch it in something other than 240p. Maybe you can see it better if you change that.
(or perhaps you were being sarcastic. Ignore if so)
Isn't he being sarcastic?
Anyway, after rewatching Arena gameplay the difference between Warzone is really noticeable, especially in the lighting on Apex 7. That map isn't quite done yet
Do grendas make a bigger explosion than a rocket launcher? That really stood out as super strange looking. Like 10 particles and a poof is a rocket explosion really?
This game.... Bad commercials, bad taste of MCC and nothing that blows my skirt up in that video. Hype levels falling thru the floor.
Ricky Ricardo
Member
Imagine that, a difference of opinions!
The thing is that this gen people want several things to be checked: resolution and/or framerate. Last gen resolution and framerate were mostly all over the place in many games and while some didn't care that much, it made also a difference, last gen. Trade-offs are always made and the hardware is what it is.
rokkerkory
Member
60fps for the effin win
but hoping halo 6 will be akin to halo 4 for 360, really pushing the console gfx in every way
but hoping halo 6 will be akin to halo 4 for 360, really pushing the console gfx in every way
Goldfishking
Member
So much sarcasm, passive aggressiveness and salt in this thread it's great.
Personally i think the game looks great and that smooth 60FPS is worth it compared to any theoretical aesthetics people are imagining.
Personally i think the game looks great and that smooth 60FPS is worth it compared to any theoretical aesthetics people are imagining.
thelastcrusader
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I must be the odd man out but I'd rather 1080p/30fps for my single player. 60fps doesn't do shit to me. I am not excited about a compressed, muddy, and blurry IQ. Plenty of games look and run fine in 30fps. 60fps for multiplayer is a different story though, but my campaign? Come on.
Your previous posts, literally on the first page.
Akai:
Agreed. BTW, do you notice a difference between Warzone and Arena?
The first page of my post history, in a shit show of a thread about the Occulus and MS partnership. To put it into context. Nice try though.
Do you mean in terms of IQ? It's hard to miss that the IQ suffers more in Warzone, but it doesn't bother me since Warzone doesn't look like something I would play for too long. I'm more the 4vs4 guy and only played BTB modes on occasion.
Two separate threads (edit: not just the quotes). How convenient of you to post a nitpick, claim hype levels falling through the floor and yet in the previous thread deride "Xbox fanboys". Your concern trolling is incredibly obvious in your other posts too.
Yeah, I was looking at the lighting on the Assault rifle specifically.
The grenade explosions caused explosive Barrels to blow in a chain reaction... At about the same time, a fuel rod shot exploded...
That's why it appears to you that the grenade explosion was bigger than the rocket...
If non of these vids do anything for you, you just must not like Halo
JumPeRJumPzZ
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Remove that yellow filter and it maybe could come close.
Wouldn't a better comparison be with the Assault Rifle, anyway?
I know you played MCC based off of your post history.
See, if your criticism was actually constructive, I wouldn't care. But you came here to nitpick and be hyperbolic. It's not about "persecution", but these Halo 5 threads get really annoying; having to swim through the low quality driveby replies which are somewhat less prevalent in the other threads on gaming side (or at least the ones I've read).
Windom Earle
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Haha that is quite funny. Not720pr.
Overall the sacrifices they had to make for 60fps are huge!
hahaha Look at my gamertag then if your concerned that I'm not a Halo fan. Oh that would show that I've played them all, including the shit show MCC. But that wouldn't fit into your persecution complex would it.
You guys should watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MrClWBkKEI&feature=youtu.be&t=262 to see how crazy the campaign can get and how it keep the smooth framerate.
That, right there, looks like Destiny. But at 60fps? This is a good thing. I like Destiny.
No, Destiny looks like Halo.
AgentP
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A couple of low res alpha explosions and like 3-4 people/creatures on screen? Wow!
lol, jesus
It's AgentP, it's literally expected in every Halo thread.
mocolostrocolos
Member
Good choice, 343.
If you can't have all the tweaks just go for the useful.
If you can't have all the tweaks just go for the useful.
Stand down, solider. We can agree that at this point they look very similar.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
After MCC, I was convinced I was done with the Halo Universe. Everything they've shown for Halo 5 has made me do a 180 and I'm pretty damned excited.
And here comes the third kind of gamer. Seriously stop generalizing.
Lol have you not read through the entire thread? Most people are complaining and I'm not one of them. I almost exclusively play on consoles.
I wish console games had quality options, shadows seem to be an issue, it'd be great to turn em off so the Resolution could be higher, or the AA could be better. Locked 60 as a priority is definitely the right decision, it's about time, but if there is muddy image quality, then that as well can be a detriment to gameplay.
I'm sure Arena and Breakout are clean and simple enough to have great image quality and locked 60 FPS, so the competitive scene will be fine. I could see Warzone and Campaign having problems with locked 60 and clean image quality, but that is to be expected, and the people invested in those parts of the game will likely be less discerning.
Good job 343.
I'm sure Arena and Breakout are clean and simple enough to have great image quality and locked 60 FPS, so the competitive scene will be fine. I could see Warzone and Campaign having problems with locked 60 and clean image quality, but that is to be expected, and the people invested in those parts of the game will likely be less discerning.
Good job 343.
Windom Earle
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What about his statements is outlandish? According to DF, the alpha effects are low res (hard to see in a Youtube vid) and this might just be the smallest rocket explosion effect I have ever seen.