So it goes along with the pc thread where looking at fires and being outdoors will cause 20 or more fps drops while dozens of enemies leave the frame rate relatively unaffected. Is this an idtech problem or are some of the maps just poorly designed? This does suggest that they can't fix the problem through patches unless they actually change some of the renders or remove the offending effects themselves.
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Digital Foundry: Performance Analysis: The Evil Within
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So it goes along with the pc thread where looking at fires and being outdoors will cause 20 or more fps drops while dozens of enemies leave the frame rate relatively unaffected. Is this an idtech problem or are some of the maps just poorly designed? This does suggest that they can't fix the problem through patches unless they actually change some of the renders or remove the offending effects themselves.
According to DF it runs around console framerates with similar settings on a mid-range desktop.
I'd assume that means 30-40 average.
Just watched a guy playing with a I5 4670K and an R9 280X 3GB. Game was stuttering every time the camera moved. Looked awful too...graphically.
Riky
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I'm using an R9270 and 30fps indoors but it can go as low as 24fps outside when there is campfires/fog etc. So I doubt you would get a solid 30fps with a 265, changing graphics options seems to make no difference either.
Razzorn34
Member
Are you fucking serious with this comment? By no means will I say the engines are perfect, but they tried to push new tech that no one else was doing at the time. John is, and always will be, one of the smartest guys in the industry.
Strangely, while I'm usually quite sensitive to framerate, I did notice a bit of hiccups during the first 5 minutes, but then it never really bothered me again. (Playing on PS4)
Maybe I acclimated to it, IDK, maybe I was too hyped.
I'm only mid-chapter 3 though, so I guess it gets worse later on. A shame, really. :/
Maybe I acclimated to it, IDK, maybe I was too hyped.
I'm only mid-chapter 3 though, so I guess it gets worse later on. A shame, really. :/
MiamiWesker
Member
I never understood the obsession with resolution and frame rate. I'm playing on ps4, yeah it looks ugly at times but it is fully playable. The whole notion of graphics and slight performance issues completely ruining a game is alien to me, but there are people sensitive to it. I would like to understand why it's so important to some.
Facism
Member
it's a great game now and it will remain so when you decide to pick it up at a lower price The technical deficiencies are a bummer, but there's a lot of meat on this product. Game is dripping with atmosphere
no, it doesn't. The game is playable, looks decent and is so far a quality experience on the ps4. So far well worth the price of entry for me.
The big thing I've found that drops the framerate on PS4 is fire and it's proximity to the camera. If Sebastian is carrying a torch or is near a bonfire it'll tank, even with no enemies in the area.
Because they are sensitive to it.
Many would prefer most games to run at 60fps, which makes it even more bothering that some games are, again, beginning to lower the standard even more and accept sub-30fps framerates. Framerate (and glitches like tearing) directly impact the playability of the game. With this new generation as-good-as-locked 30fps should become a non-negotiable standard. While such games are still playable/enjoyable, where else would we or QA draw the line to prevent such performances to become frequent/accepted?
ComputerMKII
Banned
How did the game even pass certification?
AgentOtaku
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BruiserBear
Banned
The game isn't optimized for shit.
Version 3.0
Member
My thoughts as well. It's okay, not giving me any trouble, anyway.
However, it turns out the super widescreen is annoying as hell. That's not really the issue - any aspect ratio is fine as long as the camera is placed properly - but the camera is often not placed properly. My own character's head is off screen in close quarters, and it wouldn't be if they were using the whole screen (or pulled the camera back a bit). It's quite off-putting.
AbandonedTrolley
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Not sure if it's the style of the game but the blacks look like shit. More a blue color and I understand the film grain look but this just looks like something is wrong.
The color has been exaggerated in the photo but you can see the difference between the black menu screens and the dark/black effect in the game.
The color has been exaggerated in the photo but you can see the difference between the black menu screens and the dark/black effect in the game.
clutch.as.it.gets.
Member
I agree. The game has huge bars (bigger than Blu ray movies), cant keep a steady 30 frames per second and has PS 2 art assets (no kidding, the textures in this game are awful).
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Deleted member 17706
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Wolfenstein didn't really use it any better than RAGE, did.
Still lacked dynamic lighting and suffered from texture pop-in and dogshit muddy textures when examined up close.
Honestly, The Evil Within is the most impressive looking idTech 5 game I have seen.
Yeah I am guessing they should have changed some of the levels to accommodate the frame rate problems but didn't have time to.
samus4ever
Banned
I usually don't complain about performance issues but it was really bad on Chapter 4 on Xbox One. I've only made it to chapter 5 so I don't know if it gets worse but it was a jittery mess in such a small space. The resolution looks horrible too. I thought it was just the film grain but that adds another level of fuzziness to an already low res image. That being said, I'm still really enjoying the game despite it's technical shortcomings.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Let's just hope there's an optimization later.
Shadowhaxor
Member
Exactly. Shinji is the story teller here, he is in no way responisble for the piss poor engine or optimizations (lack of).
PS2 art assets and you aren't kidding?
http://www.gfycat.com/ImmaculatePopularCanary
while you may be able to make a valid argument criticizing elements of the presentation, saying something goofy like that just discredits anything else you have to say.
I find the game to be, at most times, very good looking, with excellent use of filters, effects, and lighting -- and awesome character models.
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
Banned
Here's some PS3 gameplay
Screen tear is atrocious, textures are flat and muddy, and aliasing is really bad.
Screen tear is atrocious, textures are flat and muddy, and aliasing is really bad.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
I find it astounding that my Frankenstein'd desktop (Q9450 + 8GB RAM + 750 Ti) could feasibly play this at a similar level to a PS4. I doubt I'd get similar performance from any other current-gen PC port.
I thought it felt way off 30 when i played it last month. I was certainly surprised to see many people claiming it was fine on XB1 after purchasing it.
Game sounds like a technical mess.
Hawaii Jeff
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Amazing that games get released in this state.
At the same settings, including AA....your system is actually about equal to the PS4 at worst, it might would even win in the framerate department on some games.
For example.
Looking at benchmarks across the web I found this for Shadow of Mordor...
With a 750 Ti with a 3770k and running @ 1920x1080 High Preset...that benchmark averaged 43.4fps. The console version of that game (both X1 and PS4) run at 30fps. The console versions also use a medium level LOD and have less foliage.
I know your CPU is no 3770k, but a lot of games are now more GPU dependant. Also, your Q9450 would, again, at worst...equal the AMD CPUs in these consoles. I'd think you could average near 30 in a lot of games with the mix of high and medium the PS4 will get.
Dark10x has confirmed multiple times that they had the patch. I guess the people reporting it was smooth in the OT aren't sensitive to framerate.
Sounds genuinely terrible. Unfortunately example of trying to leverage third party tools/engines not working out too well. No way I;m keen to touch this on console given this analysis and Xbox owners in particular should be wary I guess.
After Wolfenstein and given the huge black borders (not something I'm against in principle if used well for framing BTW) so not hating on the borders themselves) this should run better than this.
It's on PC too? Been so focused on Alien Isolation this has kind of being pinging away vaguely on the edge of my upcoming games radar and I haven't checked it out much although I do like a good horror game.
After Wolfenstein and given the huge black borders (not something I'm against in principle if used well for framing BTW) so not hating on the borders themselves) this should run better than this.
It's on PC too? Been so focused on Alien Isolation this has kind of being pinging away vaguely on the edge of my upcoming games radar and I haven't checked it out much although I do like a good horror game.
This is the latest version of the game. It means that people aren't as sensitive to it or as I guessed played it in a way to avoid some of the worst parts. The bad performance is tied to levels so it is smooth in some areas and terrible in others.
I find things like poor framerate and jaggies take me out of the experience and break the immersion. You can't get lost in the game anymore, because it's consistently reminded you that it's just a game.
plasmawave
Banned
So will I be fine with my GTX 760 2GB?
It's a good game though.
Ingueferroque
Banned
What the hell? What does it being a new IP have to do with anything?
The game's actually great, despite the framerate hiccups.
Why you post here if you don't understand the tech obsession? Honest question.
Chobel
Member
You are complaining about people complaining about performance in a thread about performance? What!?
It sure is. I'm kinda tempted to have my first build include a 750 ti + i3 so I can benchmark and do comparisons myself, as well as have something at least 5x stronger than this laptop (finally gaming at native res would be good enough for me).
swazzyswess
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WT? aside from the bars and frame rate issues, the game actually looks fantastic.