The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I'm torn between just wanting to nab Laharl and all the others right away and waiting until I've got the entire main cast and figured out my favorites first...
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Disgaea 5 Complete |OT| Welcome to the Statistical Playground
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I literally did the D1 mission set first with no problems. There are some OP units available right after the tutorial too. I have no shame; it's Disgaea.
Incitemaybe
Member
Thank you both 🙂
I'm playing very sleepily and I've talked to everyone around the square.... For some reason I'm just not talking the right npc :/
Edit: ok, found him but he was a little ways off the square up towards the right, upstairs. At least I can sleepily move forward...
I really dig this type of game.
I've loved turn-based strategy since Vandal Hearts on the PS1- never played a Disgaea tho...
-but high praise so I downloaded the demo.
Only- is Seraphina always there?
Like a mandatory main character/has to be involved/etc type of thing?
I cannot stand anything about that character almost to the point of it being a dealbreaker :/
I've loved turn-based strategy since Vandal Hearts on the PS1- never played a Disgaea tho...
-but high praise so I downloaded the demo.
Only- is Seraphina always there?
Like a mandatory main character/has to be involved/etc type of thing?
I cannot stand anything about that character almost to the point of it being a dealbreaker :/
Baloonatic
Member
Pretty annoyed with Amazon UK. Was looking forward to getting this today and they email me this morning saying they can't get stock from their supplier. Bit more warning would be nice.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Someone should make a thread about this game having PS4 trophies, many people love those lol.
It isn't the first. Minecraft also has Achievements. Microsoft couldn't help themselves.
Terrorblot
Member
I picked this up last night! Can't wait to dig in to it. I was a big fan of Disgaea 1-3 / Phantom Brave / La Pucelle. I think 2 is still my favorite even though 3 continued to improve the gameplay by a wide margin. I petered out on Disgaea 4 before making it to the post-game but now that I'm thirsty for Switch games this seems perfect! If NIS continues to bring their games over to Switch I'd be more than happy to reinvest in their franchises.
MikeBison
Member
Oh, really? I reinstated my preorder last night and said it would arrive today.
Checked today and it says tomorrow but assumed that was because I ordered late on.
Know if GAME has it in stock? Much prefer physical.
OmegaDL50
Member
Netherworld Research R40 weapon has a unique revenge booster innocent which can't be obtained in IW.
The r40 you get from IG2 has the strongest base stat for its class of weapon but will have 0 in all other stats.
The mystery room weapon has the weakest main stat of the 3, but has points in all other stats as well.
Also all 3 weapons have unique looks, so it really narrows down to in the end which one do you like the look of the most.
Also are you trying to get a regular R40 weapon?
There is an extra set of ranks beyond the initial 40 called Carnage Rank items.
To put it into perspective.
A Carnage R1 can be considered R41, a Carnage R2, is R42, and so on. There is basically 80 Item Ranks in the game. 40 regular and 40 for Carnage.
If you are going out of your way hunting for R40 items, a basic sword you get in from the Bonus Gauge for completing one of the Carnage maps will be far superior to any standard R40 in in the game.
Agent Gibbs
Member
Sounds like I'm not the only one! I'm currently abusing live chat who are trying to fob me off on where stock is
I ordered at £39
Amazon now sell it for £48
I'm cynical I think they expect everyone to cancel and then reorder at the higher price
Ah I see, will probably just stick with IG R40 weapons.
And yeah I was referring to the carnage R40 weapons, so R80 I guess it would be. Sorry force of habit of always thinking of R40=best lol.
bagandscalpel
Member
The Research R40 weapons with that unique innocent are nice to have just to put on your characters' secondary slots. Free revenge gauge at the start of each map is a great incentive.
If you look on Amazon UK, they're actually sold out. There's some third party sellers selling it for £48 too but that's it.
They probably got a limited amount of copies. They don't send copies out in order, so if that happens it's pot luck who gets a copy and who doesn't. Which is really shit.
MikeBison
Member
So my Amazon order says delivering Saturday. Popped into GAME and they tried to tell me it had been delayed, then he realised they just hadn't been sent any copies.
they sold out on amazon us too, and right at launch. the game seems to be doing really well there. even though you can't buy it, it's still 49 in video games in the us.
Funnily enough I can't even find it on Game.co.uk?
I guess NIS really didn't print many copies at all, or well they underestimated demand.
Yeah I'll probably send ships off anyway, might as well.
we know that the order was slightly higher than the ps4 version, so it seems like more of a demand thing.
Agent Gibbs
Member
If you look at more sellers Amazon has gone up to £48.48, but it was available when I preordered and all this week
Either way Amazon have no idea when they will get stock and tried telling me they sent orders out in order of when they were placed, which I've known to be crap before and they just send them as they are picked in the warehouse
I supposedly it means they did well then
Yeah I remember hearing they were happy with the pre-order numbers.
Oh I know it's gone up to £48 on Amazon too. But they're obviously not doing it to get you to re-order. It's sold out so you wouldn't get it much faster if you did. Which was my point.
It's more supply/demand increasing prices.
Just got mine from a local Saturn, one of the largest in Munich. Only had a few copies in stock. Maybe 5 or 6. Demo convinced me to get my very first Disgaea. Demo is the whole first episode of the game and took me more than 3 hours to finish. I love the humor and lighthearted-ness, but at the same time it provides so much and deep content gameplay-wise.
Bamboo 竹
Member
Enjoying the game so far as being my first entry on the series. My only complain is that at times is too much information to absorb for a newcomer at the beginning of the game so you may miss some details. In my case I don't have any idea how to increase the mastery level on the classes to unlock new classes with the recruiter. I have been leveling up all classes but nothing happens with their mastery and also I can't seem to find where to check it on the status screen. Anybody help please?
tim_pkmn89
Member
She's always in the story, but you never have to use any of the characters in battle.
OmegaDL50
Member
Bamboo 竹;238150233 said:
Entirely new classes are unlocked by doing various quests from the Quest NPC. You need to fulfill the prerequisite requires from the quests to unlock them.
Class Mastery can be checked under the Class tab in a characters status screen
Class Mastery increases by one of your characters doing actions with said class. For example if you need Rank 2 Warrior then you need a character sub-classed as a Warrior or an actual Warrior generic in his default class to defeat enemies or objects in battle and continue to do so until they reach rank 2.
Each Rank is denoted by a Star. Fully filling a Star and turning it gold masters that tier and you move on to the next. Up to a max of 6.
For example to unlock Archer you need to reach rank 2 of a Fighter and Rank 2 of a Healer. So that means one gold star in the Warrior / Valkyrie and one gold star in Cleric / Clergy.
These ranks are retroactive and will also automatically apply to other class unlocks as if they also are part of the requirement to unlock them.
For example the having a Mage class (Magician / Witch) at Rank 2 and your existing Rank 2 Fighter from unlocking Archer will also fulfill the conditions for unlocking a Gunner.
If you have any other questions let me know.
Entirely new classes are unlocked by doing various quests from the Quest NPC. You need to fulfill the prerequisite requires from the quests to unlock them.
Class Mastery can be checked under the Class tab in a characters status screen
Class Mastery increases by one of your characters doing actions with said class. For example if you need Rank 2 Warrior then you need a character sub-classed as a Warrior or an actual Warrior generic in his default class to defeat enemies or objects in battle and continue to do so until they reach rank 2.
Each Rank is denoted by a Star. Fully filling a Star and turning it gold masters that tier and you move on to the next. Up to a max of 6.
For example to unlock Archer you need to reach rank 2 of a Fighter and Rank 2 of a Healer. So that means one gold star in the Warrior / Valkyrie and one gold star in Cleric / Clergy.
These ranks are retroactive and will also automatically apply to other class unlocks as if they also are part of the requirement to unlock them.
For example the having a Mage class (Magician / Witch) at Rank 2 and your existing Rank 2 Fighter from unlocking Archer will also fulfill the conditions for unlocking a Gunner.
If you have any other questions let me know.
I'm not the one who requested help, but just running into the same problem so this is helpful for me. thanks.
Seraphina is there, but the cast grows quickly so her role diminishes a bit. I was in the same boat as you, hating her in the demo.
Red Magnus compensates enough. I can't decide whether his voice acting is awful or beautiful.
Memnoch
Member
That's good because after reading the OT I felt maybe this game will be too much for me. I want to play a decent rpg and enjoy it without knowing all of that stat related info.
OmegaDL50
Member
Probably but in the beginning of the game, when you only have the most basic recruits available and at their base aptitudes. Simply throwing Muscle items on a character and healing the HP difference in the Hospital quickly serves it's purpose just to get a few quick and easy Hospital rewards for an early boost.
I went ahead and grabbed the characters I wanted so that they wouldn't be behind the curve later. If they're available, why not grab them now? Heh, heh.
OmegaDL50
Member
The DLC bonus characters actually scale their levels based on your current point in the story mode.
Starting at level 3 in the very beginning at chapter one and scaling as high as 800+ into the post-game.
BossDarkseid
Member
I want to get this, but I also know I'd probably get sidetracked with activities like halfway through and never complete it. Disgaea games do feel enormous and labyrinthine...
got the EU/UK collectors box in the mail yesterday. Outer box is really flimsy and it almost feels like holding all that content within it will collapse when not held correctly..
Just picked mine up from the Royal Mail Despatch Office. I was surprised by the little cardboard rectangles they had to include.
Happy to support NIS though.
I dunno I think the contents are fine, I just worry that the box could be damaged by anything. Fortunately they packaged mine well.got the EU/UK collectors box in the mail yesterday. Outer box is really flimsy and it almost feels like holding all that content within it will collapse when not held correctly..
Possibly a dumb question.
When do stop being asked if I want to skip the demo? I've just finished the fourth level of the second Netherworld and it's still appearing. I thought it would stop once I played past the ending point of the eShop demo but I'm well past that now.
Its not a problem, but I'm just worried I'll miss something.
When do stop being asked if I want to skip the demo? I've just finished the fourth level of the second Netherworld and it's still appearing. I thought it would stop once I played past the ending point of the eShop demo but I'm well past that now.
Its not a problem, but I'm just worried I'll miss something.
The Greek Freak
Member
Does the combat get any more difficult?
I'm like 3 hours in and every battle has been super duper easy, like mobile gacha crap rpg level easy even though I feel lost as hell in general.
Also is there any logic to the team up attacks? Sometimes I think I'm setup to do one...then it doesn't happen. Do certain characters only team up with specific others?
I'm like 3 hours in and every battle has been super duper easy, like mobile gacha crap rpg level easy even though I feel lost as hell in general.
Also is there any logic to the team up attacks? Sometimes I think I'm setup to do one...then it doesn't happen. Do certain characters only team up with specific others?
Yeah battles get tougher, especially when geo panels start coming in. Also if you feel it's too easy, when you unlock the cheat shop just crank the enemy level up.
To start of a team attach you need party members either behind the character and/or on either side, when you select attack there is a percentage screen that appears below where you select the monster. So:
...E
T M T
...T
E=enemy
M=main attacker
T=teammate
Put characters in the same squad to increase the percentage, there's also an evility that makes it guaranteed 100%.
tim_pkmn89
Member
Ditch the main characters and go generics-only then
The Greek Freak
Member
Thanks for explaining that, I was using the exact same characters/locations and only getting it sometimes, confused the hell out of me.
Skip demo means just to skip the upcoming cutscene.
KenzinFive
Member
Oh man, I don't remember if this was added in 4 or not, but being able to take out all of the Innocents in an item and store them for later (regardless of whether they're subdued) is a game-changer. I had been holding on to terrible items just for their Innocents inside them just like in the old games. But now I can just rip out the Innocent in a crappy weapon or a usable item, and then just sell the item. My item list is finally manageable!
Plus you can move the Innocents into other items freely, even without subduing them in the Item World first. They don't always give huge boosts unsubdued, but it's a huge quality-of-life improvement. Now I can hold on to the best weapons or rare/legendary items and just drop Innocents into them to boost them and the character.
Plus you can move the Innocents into other items freely, even without subduing them in the Item World first. They don't always give huge boosts unsubdued, but it's a huge quality-of-life improvement. Now I can hold on to the best weapons or rare/legendary items and just drop Innocents into them to boost them and the character.