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Disney's Pocahontas is terrible
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Discotheque
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Damn bruh way to remind me of those shows, I miss them
Christopher
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It was just boring as hell... Main problem
Nerdkiller
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Agreed.
On the subject, As much as people love "A Whole New World", I always loved "Prince Ali" quite a bit more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEryAoLfnAA
Jill Sandwich
the turds of Optimus Prime
It is, apart from the fucking sidekicks. Leave them out and Hunchback is a dark and fantastic Disney film.
Eh, I personally prefer Mulan. Both are great, though, and Mulan didn't have a cool SNES game
Nerdkiller
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The problem with the gargoyle sidekicks was that with they way they were going with them, they seemed to be more like a figment of Quasi's imagination. That was until near the end which essentially proved that they were real things. A shame too, as it would have been a great way into seeing Quasi's psyche.
Carnby
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The song is better. And Genie zipping around as different people/animals makes it really funny.
Grimm Fandango
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I just saw The Emperor's New Groove for the first time the other day. Not a musical movie but still good and funny. Animation and art are great, especially Yzma.
Secret Fawful
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I like the music, but I like Pocahontas 2 more for one stupid funny line.
However, the movie did give my childhood a badass Sega Genesis game.
However, the movie did give my childhood a badass Sega Genesis game.
Those gifs could also be from some hair product commercial.JUST AROUND THE RIVERBEND!
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Hercules was awesome, and that came out in 1997. Mulan was great too, 1998.
Since then only Lilo and Stitch and Princess and the Frog were good 2d films from them.
Kitschkraft
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It's pretty terrible from a cultural standpoint. I can't stand by it.
triplestation
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pocahontas is like the second movie i ever watched after jurassic park
The only serious goof in an amazing run of Disney animation.
Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Lion King, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Hercules, Mulan, Tarzan? All fantastic films.
Can't say I have anything in particular against The Rescuers Down Under, I just don't understand what it's doing there.
Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Lion King, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Hercules, Mulan, Tarzan? All fantastic films.
Can't say I have anything in particular against The Rescuers Down Under, I just don't understand what it's doing there.
I think Pocahontas was the Disney movie that started killing off my desire to see Disney movies theatrically. They had that really strong run, then came out with this upscale Fern Gully thing. Meh.
Emperor's New Groove is an underappreciated classic to me. I worked at a rental place during college where we had to play either a trailer loop tape or G-rated kids stuff during all open hours. We played that movie so much the tape we used started to noticably wear out with periods of distorted audio. We then swapped to another tape and kept playing. I used to be able to recite the whole thing. It's a very flimsy film without a ton of depth, but it's very good at what it does, and the dialogue was fairly good.
Emperor's New Groove is an underappreciated classic to me. I worked at a rental place during college where we had to play either a trailer loop tape or G-rated kids stuff during all open hours. We played that movie so much the tape we used started to noticably wear out with periods of distorted audio. We then swapped to another tape and kept playing. I used to be able to recite the whole thing. It's a very flimsy film without a ton of depth, but it's very good at what it does, and the dialogue was fairly good.
Pickles Spill
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Or Tressfx.
Link1110
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I never id see that movie, but I was a fan of the show when it was on. Maybe it worked better as a series? I really liked James Woods in it.
Pocahontas was actually the begening of the end for traditional Disney animated films. It was not all that well reviewed either. We had a streak of Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Alladin, The Lion King, The Hunchback of Notre Dame..... And then Pocahontas. That is when it went to shit. I doubt you will find a lot of people defending that film.
you sir, deserve a prize, I think this the first time I heard someone praising that movie
I like your style. A real return to form for the non-Pixar arm of Disney animation, and Alan Menken's songs are fantastic.
Awesome pick. Frollo is pretty fantastic in general, actually.
C'mon man. As far the critics are concerned Mulan only lagged behind Aladdin by 6%. Its fine if you don't like it, but suggesting they're on wildly different levels of quality is kinda silly.
Hunchback came after Pocahontas. Mulan and Tarzan were also released after it and were critical and financial successes.
I'd say Tarzan was the cut-off point myself. Even then, few of the subsequent films were actually bad. Lilo and Stitch especially was fantastic.
Yeah I was trying to remember the order of those films. I actually liked Hercules and Lilo a lot. I just remembered that around the time of Pocahontas is when the streak of awesome Disney films ended, and then if was every other film was good. Then they stopped making traditionally animated films yearly.
Despite the quality, I think it is admirable for them to deviate from the classic Disney's formula. Even as a kid when it first came out, I noticed the more "grounded" approach. With the exception of the willow tree, there very little fantasy. While disappointing when I was a kid, as an adult, that gave the movie a refreshing, unique identity.
Boogie9IGN
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Pocahontas was the first movie I watched in theaters and I still watch it occasionally, I love it and OP is wrong
John Smith was a bad character, sure. but man, moments like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTCuQ5FzhYg
really made that movie.
My favorite is definitely Aladdin, though. and to those saying they can't make good stuff anymore, i'd say some of their new movies are pretty fantastic. Tangled, for example, I think is as good as their old stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTCuQ5FzhYg
really made that movie.
My favorite is definitely Aladdin, though. and to those saying they can't make good stuff anymore, i'd say some of their new movies are pretty fantastic. Tangled, for example, I think is as good as their old stuff.
Tarzan and Hercules would like a word with you.
The New World still has that historically inaccurate "mythical" romantic relationship between John Smith and Pocahontas though.. but my god the attention to detail is so damn good and avoids a lot of those cliches in terms of it's portrayal of native indians.
Dankë. I haven't watched that enough this week. Judy Kuhn's soaring belt matching perfectly with the soaring visuals. Perfection in a glass.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I haven't seen the movie in years, and barely remember it, but I used to love it when I was a kid. I loved the songs and the colors - it's such a stunningly gorgeous film.
General Patton
Banned
Heh, go home, you're drunk.
Tangled was a masterpiece. Had some really good music too which is rare these days. The only thing the Tangled had going against it was the marketing, which positioned it as a comedy and downplayed the fact it was a musical (and a very decent one).
Yeah, it pretty much follows all the "white dude conquers foreign culture" trope (though films with the same premise came out after as big studio productions) and there were a lot of stereotypes. But this isn't supposed to be a historical documentary, but a romantic fantasy. Colors of the Wind is a good song and the animation still looks gorgeous today, such rich use of colors and very fluid. I think you can just watch Colors of the Wind on Youtube and then you're done with the movie.
GhostWriter24
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Someone has never seen Days of Heaven.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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After reading this thread I decided to look up a bunch of old disney movies on youtube (including Pocahontas).
So much nostalgia.
So much nostalgia.
Yeah I have to say no matter how bad the film was; if it was a Disney musical the music was so good and memorable. I will watch all of Hunchback just for this song right here. Really I can't even believe someone approved that movie to get made much less what's going on in this song. Frollo had some real adult issues.
Anyway, same with Pocahontas; the music of that movie is just so memorable and amazing. I think the biggest downfall of that and a lot of these movies is the dumb as hell sidekicks (merchandise). The early films like Little Mermaid and Beauty & the Beast you had sidekicks being their own characters and interacting with the main cast in meaningful ways. Then you have the fucking raccoon, hummingbird and dog in Pocahontas which basically had some kind of plot all their own and distracting from everything else. Horrible.
Say what you will about the movie, I don't care too much about it. But you will NOT in any shape or form criticize even the tiniest aspect of Colors of the Wind. It's the best song Disney ever put out and one of the best songs ever made. It's perfect and anybody who doesn't like it is a ghoul.
Considering its an animated comedy, what else does it have to be good at exactly?
You never hear "Zoolander was very funny, but wasnt good at making me cry. PASS", but when it comes to animation all of a sudden pure comedies are sidelined
Razgriz-Specter
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DO NOT WATCH POCAHONTAS 2!!!!!!
fuck that shit, it retroactively made me hate 1. Can't even stand Pocahontas as a character anymore.
And I actually liked 1 a lot originally.
fuck that shit, it retroactively made me hate 1. Can't even stand Pocahontas as a character anymore.
And I actually liked 1 a lot originally.
It's easy enough to ignore, isn't it? Being a DTV movie by a different studio and all.
CharminUltra
Member
Yeah, I thought it was rather forgettable.
The Lion King was the last Disney movie I truly loved.
The Lion King was the last Disney movie I truly loved.
entremet
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I'm not saying that Disney didn't make any other good movies after--Tarzan is one of my favorites, but that Pocahontas was the combo breaker and Disney animation was up and down after that.
For the Blu-ray, it's on the same disc as Pocahontas. Let's say after watching Pocahontas to relive it's solid music and great visuals, you think, "hey, I got 80 minutes with nothing to do, maybe I should just toss on the sequel? It's right here on the same disc!"
DON'T DO IT. Pocahontas II is baaaaad. It's a borderline insulting plot about Pocahontas going to England liberally peppered with uninspired gags featuring the animal sidekicks.
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