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[Tunavi]

perfect

 

[Cow Mengde]

I'm not overly fond of any of the huge production modern era Disney movies. There's something about the computer aided tweening that always bugs me, the musical numbers keep getting sappier and more generic, and the comic relief has veered consistently into hamfisted smart talking in-yo-face territory for, what, two decades? They also feel like they're tailored to a market, whereas early Disney films had loftier artistic ambitions. Even the better of the modern ones are vastly overrated, and imo don't even scratch at the quality and vision of early Disney films like Snow White, Pinocchio, Dumbo, Bambi, etc. Then again, I think Jungle Book was the last stone cold classic, so I realize I'm in pretty firmly the minority on the subject. You don't know how defeated I feel every time someone ardently defends the Lion King as the pinnacle of Disney's output. It's embarrassing.

I'm... going to have to agree with you on that. A lot of the musicals do feel kind of phoned in. It's like, hey, let's have a big musical number to draw out the running time.

 

[Ristlager]

Stop this dissing of Emperors New Groove. It is the funniest movie I have ever seen. Its non stop laugh from start to finish with high class and exellent delivered jokes/gags/slapstick. Fantastic animation, great voice acting and no singing.

 

[DerZuhälter]

Emperor's New Groove is absolutely awesome.
I feel indifferent to Pocahontas and to be honest I hate Lion King. Everything about it's plot is offensive to me. Don't know why so many love it.

 

[Lee Chaolan]

Emperor's New Groove is absolutely awesome.
I feel indifferent to Pocahontas and to be honest I hate Lion King. Everything about it's plot is offensive to me. Don't know why so many love it.

Best Disney movie in years.

Oh, and I love Cool Runnings.

 

[Barkley's Justice]

I kinda liked Atlantis tbh.

Spoiler

Up until the point I found out it was a bite of Nadia, the anime.

But I remember Atlantis being among the first of new Disney movies where no one sang and thinking to myself it was kindof a big deal.

 

[marrec]

Stop this dissing of Emperors New Groove. It is the funniest movie I have ever seen. Its non stop laugh from start to finish with high class and exellent delivered jokes/gags/slapstick. Fantastic animation, great voice acting and no singing.

Emperor's New Groove is absolutely awesome.
I feel indifferent to Pocahontas and to be honest I hate Lion King. Everything about it's plot is offensive to me. Don't know why so many love it.

Best Disney movie in years.

Oh, and I love Cool Runnings.

These three people get it. Emperor's New Groove is top notch.

 

[FStop7]

her hair would make great all-natural tampons.

Her hair is actually the Venom symbiote.

 

[User 100115]

These three people get it. Emperor's New Groove is top notch.

I missed the people talking crap about New Groove. I found it shockingly entertaining.

 

[Data West]

People just hate David Spade.

The Animated Series wasn't bad either.

 

[Chunky]

Eh, I personally prefer Mulan. Both are great, though, and Mulan didn't have a cool Megadrive game

I will fight this to my last breath.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Yes

90s Disney hierarchy is like

B&TB
Lion King
Aladdin
Hunchback of Notre Dame
Rescuers Down Under
Tarzan
Mulan
Hercules
Pocahontas

The first half of that list is fairly fluid, they've all been my favorite at one point or another.

But yes Pocahontas is dumb. Weak story, weak characters, good music and art, that's its saving grace.

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

People forget A Goofy Movie as a canon Disney film and it makes me sad. Easily one of their best.

 

[Winterfang]

Watch The New World, its the only good film Terrence Malick has ever made.



No, Tangled is a classic, Disney at their best.

Tangled is an anomaly, the movie didn't had any right to be that good. They catch lighting in a bottle with it.

 

[Demon Ice]

If you found Pocahantas racist / offensive, how did you react to Aladdin?

 

[Maron]

I wish The Sweatbox was available for more public viewing. Knowing what went down for Emperor's New Groove will make you respect the film even more for knowing that it went through so many iterations and came out not shit.

Basically the film started out as an epic in the Lion King vein, but things became really muddled and confused so they brought in another director who went in a slapstick direction.

I torrented Sweatbox a couple of weeks ago and it's really something to see those Disney executives tear down the original film and insist on changing pretty much everything. Unfortunately not enough of the original Kingdom of the Sun film is shown to make a judgement on whether or not it was a good idea to change so much in the end, but stuff like the degradation of Yzma's character still really sucks.

 

[Dishwalla]

People forget A Goofy Movie as a canon Disney film and it makes me sad. Easily one of their best.

It's actually not part of the Disney Canon. Technically it's a spinoff movie, based on the TV show Goof Troop.

 

[Cat Party]

Real talk: Colors of the Wind is the best song of the Renaissance.

 

[Oersted]

Just realizing how much Disney movies are suffering from generic and lame-ass heroes.

you sir, deserve a prize, I think this the first time I heard someone praising that movie

Hey there, there are more

 

[JimmyRustler]

lol, official

whoever counts Mulan in the same breath as Aladdin doesn't deserve to have any authority within the cartoon renaissance governing body

Mulan is way better than Aladdin.... Aladdin hasn't aged well. It has imo one of the worst soundtracks in Disney history.

 

[Einbroch]

Glad to see The Emperor's New Groove love. Absolutely hilarious, by far the funniest Disney movie. The writing, voice acting, and direction was top notch.

Also, Mulan + Hercules > Aladdin + Lion King. Even though Hercules is totally Disney'd and false, it's awesome.

 

[Astral]

Colors of the Wind really is the only good thing to come out of that movie. It's amazing. Everything else is so forgettable.

 

[kazebyaka]

Colors of the Wind really is the only good thing to come out of that movie. It's amazing. Everything else is so forgettable.

Savages, man, savages. Best song.

 

[Data West]

Real talk: Colors of the Wind is the best song of the Renaissance.

Hahaha

hahahahaha

 

[sirap]

Cronk's New Groove is pretty awesome too.

 

[Trey]

I liked Hercules. Tarzan is that shit too.

Hercules > Tarzan > Mulan > Pocahontas.

 

[Azuran]

The lack of love for Hercules in this thread is disheartening. That film was a comedy masterpiece and a breath of fresh air from their sappy stuff. .I wish Disney would make a lot more movies that don't take themselves too seriously.

Hades is still the best villian in any Disney film. He stole the entire film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7QIOo0qS5k

Still ranks as the most hilarious scene ever by Disney. I couldn't stop laughing for minutes after that.

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

but without it we would have never gotten Avatar



On a serious note, when Lion King and Pocahontas were put in development Pocahontas actually had more resources available to it because it was considered the next AAA film after Aladdin. Lion King was being worked on by a B-Team. It wasn't until very late in development that Katzenberg saw the potential in it and beefed up the budget but even up to release day Disney was considering this a lower tier film like "The Rescuers Down under".

Damn, really? Makes me wonder if they had similar feelings on other major pieces like Bambi. Was the fact the cast was all animals had something to do w/ their feelings on that b/c I notice every other Disney film from that era had at least one human in the cast.

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

The lack of love for Hercules in this thread is disheartening. That film was a comedy masterpiece and a breath of fresh air from their sappy stuff. .I wish Disney would make a lot more movies that don't take themselves too seriously.

Hades is still the best villian in any Disney film. He stole the entire film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7QIOo0qS5k

Still ranks as the most hilarious scene ever by Disney. I couldn't stop laughing for minutes after that.

I'm a Hercules fan; very under-appreciated indeed. Hunchback gets even more of that; tbh I have yet to watch that one fully b/c I've never had the chance. Just remember this scene of him on the roof when it's raining and the girl is crawling after him up there.

Too bad Netflix and Hulu don't have it up there; I'd watch it if they did.

 

[Aselith]

And not to mention how inaccurate it is to the actual story of Pocahontas and John Smith.

All of their movies that are based on previous existing things are inaccurate. Go read the Hunchback of Notre Dame.

 

[qindarka]

All of their movies that are based on previous existing things are inaccurate. Go read the Hunchback of Notre Dame.

There is quite a big difference between messing with history and changing what was already fiction.

 

[entremet]

Yes

90s Disney hierarchy is like

B&TB
Lion King
Aladdin
Hunchback of Notre Dame
Rescuers Down Under
Tarzan
Mulan
Hercules
Pocahontas

The first half of that list is fairly fluid, they've all been my favorite at one point or another.

But yes Pocahontas is dumb. Weak story, weak characters, good music and art, that's its saving grace.

Missing The Goofy Movie.

 

[Toxi]

I agree, Poccahontas was awful. The animation was pretty... And that was it. The gross historical inaccuracy combined with the lack of quality makes it offensive for me to watch nowadays.

Also, The Goofy Movie was fucking amazing. It's kinda like Lilo and Stitch, in that it portrays a more mundane but funny family situation.

 

[Loofy]

Pocahontas was great. And when it comes to music its probably a tie with The Little Mermaid.

 

[Bundy]

Pocahontas is a classic, shits all over what they put out nowadays

This!
I LOVE Pocahontas!
Movie was fucking brilliant!

 

[Toth]

I always wonderd how they could make a Pocahontas II in London. She died there IRL after contracting an illness lol

 

[huxley00]

I kind of like the "Color of the Wind" song to be honest.

 

[Aselith]

There is quite a big difference between messing with history and changing what was already fiction.

No there isn't. It's a fictional movie based on history. People write alternate history stories all the time. They're both fiction.

 

[IpsoFacto]

@Carny

Pocahontas was praised!? I hated the movie when it came out. Still not fond of it today.

 

[Aselith]

Yes

90s Disney hierarchy is like

B&TB
Lion King
Aladdin
Hunchback of Notre Dame
Rescuers Down Under
Tarzan
Mulan
Hercules
Pocahontas

The first half of that list is fairly fluid, they've all been my favorite at one point or another.

But yes Pocahontas is dumb. Weak story, weak characters, good music and art, that's its saving grace.

That definitely isn't the best Disney era though Great Mouse Detective, Sword in the Stone and Robin Hood shit on those movies from great heights.

 

[Cat]

I wouldn't call it terrible, but it's a Disney movie I have no interest in seeing again or owning unless my daughter wanted it when she's older.

I appreciate Hercules more and more over time.

I used to think Aladdin was my favorite, but The Little Mermaid is the one I've gone back to watch the most, so I think that is.

 

[Toxi]

That definitely isn't the best Disney era though Great Mouse Detective, Sword in the Stone and Robin Hood shit on those movies from great heights.

You're crazy. Sword in the Stone was a solid "okay" with the transformation battle being the highlight, Robin Hood was hot garbage both in animation and in everything else.

(Although I can't get the march theme from Robin Hood out of my head the second I think about it, so I guess there is that.)

 

[Violet_0]

Tangled is as forgettable as Dinosaur, Chicken Little and Emperor's New Groove.

except that two of these movies are actually pretty damn good

 

[Aselith]

You're crazy. Sword in the Stone was a solid "okay" with the transformation battle being the highlight, Robin Hood was hot garbage both in animation and in everything else.

(Although I can't get the march theme from Robin Hood out of my head the second I think about it, so I guess there is that.)

You are outside of your mind,

 

[Violet_0]

You are outside of your mind,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihS970ymuC0

 

[Dead]

I wouldn't call it terrible, but it's a Disney movie I have no interest in seeing again or owning unless my daughter wanted it when she's older.

I appreciate Hercules more and more over time.

I used to think Aladdin was my favorite, but The Little Mermaid is the one I've gone back to watch the most, so I think that is.

Little mermaid and B&B GOAT

 

[Aselith]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihS970ymuC0

Ok so we can establish that Robin Hood had dancing and clapping just like other Disney movies. Trash cinema.

Best opening in a Disney movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnNXGlqJApU

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

You're crazy. Sword in the Stone was a solid "okay" with the transformation battle being the highlight, Robin Hood was hot garbage both in animation and in everything else.

(Although I can't get the march theme from Robin Hood out of my head the second I think about it, so I guess there is that.)

What on earth is wrong with you! Sword in the Stone is one of the few Disney films that was "cool" to like as a young boy because it didn't cram a smarmy love story down your throat. Arthur turned down that girl squirrel stone cold!

Also Emperor's New Groove is the only thing starring David Spade that doesn't make me want to choke him.

 

[Nerdkiller]

Hahaha

hahahahaha

Oh great. Now you made me want to post this.

http://i.imgur.com/S5YZlLC.jpg

 

[KingK]

The plot and writing was really weak, but the animation was gorgeous and it had some fantastic songs. Colors of the Wind is one of my favorite Disney songs from any movie.