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DmC Devil May Cry Ships 1 Million Copies; Forecast Lowered To 1.2 Million
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Probably if you only count up the Europe + Japan numbers. In Japan it has a bit under 150K.
But you get to see Lady and Trish fight each other.
And Trish kicks her ass. The best Dante Girl shows who's boss.
I didn't think it would really sell that low.
Trish wins because she is of demon blood and she is in a different class of power than Lady. The outcome was obvious.
I don't think the US numbers came in yet. The JPN numbers are already at 150k+. So those numbers seem possible.
call_kotaku
Member
That's a budgetary concern, probably, generally the cheapest animes will throw all their budget at the first couple of episodes and then try to finish strong. I guess it sort of proves (along with DMC2) that Dante isn't that interesting when he isn't outrageous.
Still, the animation in that thing was worse than the animation in a Western-produced action game.
Wasted potential is an understatement. Real shame that Yoshiaki Kawajiri wasn't the one to direct it. If there was anyone PERFECT to adapt DMC it was him. It would have captured the feel of the games pretty well, the man is a fucking boss when it comes to action.
True, but it was funny seeing Lady fans get mad on some other boards about it though.
BadAss2961
Member
The action should've been more like the games, but I thought they nailed it in the art department. The world and the characters looked great.
And the end credits still has the best DMC related theme.
CosmicGroinPull
Member
I did my part; I bought a PG game instead. The demo was decent, but I don't like the game's mythology enough to endure the fps downgrade.
The character designs were fine as was the soundtrack, art and intr/outro... what sucked was the non existent story, lack of any tension, character development or any good action scenes. The antagonists were garbage as well... Dante didn't even need to activate DT to beat everyone. I think it was a big mistake making it canon and bridging the boring gap between DMC1 and DMC4.
Needed more Vergil. As always the rule of Vergil prevails.
Needed more Vergil. As always the rule of Vergil prevails.
GenoZStriker
Neo Member
It's not that complicated. Introduce a Necromancer or Dark Wizard who brings back Vergil from the dead and problem solved. You have your Vergil
Hey! Plot for DMC5.
Hey! Plot for DMC5.
And it would totally undermine Vergil's/Nelo Angelo's final moments. He went out like a boss. Time for him to rest.
Infinite Justice
Member
holy shit that thing is canon? :O
i don't even remember that (though to be fair i didn't want to remember any of that trainwreck)
Yup, nearly all of the expanded stuff for the DMC games are canon aside from the first DMC manga with Tony Redgrave and Shishio-Vergil.
call_kotaku
Member
If I remember correctly, on twitter Kamiya was ambiguous about whether Nelo Angelo was actually Vergil or just a clone like Trish ("Only Dante Knows"). I imagine Vergil trying to escape Hell, or even being the new King of Hell after Mundus is out, wouldn't be particularly hard to explain.
I totally get being a fan of the games based on the presentation, characters, themes, context and aesthetics, and then extrapolating from that. However, I still don't really see how there's enough - or consistent enough - lore to warrant much investment.
Tekken gets fans, cosplayers and anime, too.
I hope you aren't insinuating that Tekken doesn't have much lore. Cause you would be wrong.
Its canon but it doesn't matter even if it is because absolutely nothing of worth happens in it except Trish and Lady meeting for the first time. You get to see Dante do a bunch of boring ass jobs while baby sitting some loli character. Climax is some guy wanting Sparda's powers or some shit. Just watch the intro, the first episode, the episode where Trish/Lady meet and the last couple of episodes.
The entire DMC timeline with external media is the following:
DMC3 Manga > DMC3 > DMC1 > DMC Anime > DMC4 > DMC2
If DmC was to be considered canon it would be before the DMC3 Manga and the Vergil chronicles before even that. My guess is Vergil downfall iz after DmC but we still have to see that for sure. Story wise DmC can easily transition into DMC3 but the problem comes when DMC1 timeline appears which has Mundus.
PaulExcellent
Member
Should I assume this means no DmC2?
I'm really liking it. Really swell game.
Still, would not mind a Devil May Cry 5.
I'm really liking it. Really swell game.
Still, would not mind a Devil May Cry 5.
call_kotaku
Member
DarҖaoZ;47324081 said:
Or since there's no hair gel in Hell, he wakes up and the player will think he's playing as Dante, but halfway into the game Dante shows up and gives you Yamato and some hair gel and is like "sup bro
"It sure has a lot of lore. All kinds of mapped out sequences of who threw who into a volcano when, and so forth. I'm implying that it's not exactly the most riveting, and that you could probably take the potent elements of it and put it into a stronger, more steady handed narrative.
Nah, DmC can't be part of DMC universe. DmC has Angels and clearly states that Dante and Vergil are Half Angels and Half Demons. Not Half Human and Half Demon like in DMC. Unless Capcom pull some shit out.
Or since there's no hair gel in Hell, he wakes up and the player will think he's playing as Dante, but halfway into the game Dante shows up and gives you Yamato and some hair gel and is like "sup bro
You know what? We are up to something. Lets call Capcom US!
LMAO
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
My Vergil senses are tingling, what's going on in h-
Did you see a body? 'Cause I didn't see a fucking body. Until I see a body he ain't dead. You fucking hear me?? HE WILL RETURN GOD DAMN IT
No he isn't god damn it!
Did you see a body? 'Cause I didn't see a fucking body. Until I see a body he ain't dead. You fucking hear me?? HE WILL RETURN GOD DAMN IT
Honestly, I see DMC5 or putting the franchise on hiatus being the more likely scenarios. A DMC game shouldn't be pulling these kind of figures. I'd like to see DmC2 as well, but I don't think it's happening. But then again, DMC3 was the lowest selling game of the series, and that still got a sequel. So who knows.
Though I'm pretty sure NT is working on some other title now, since they just hired network/online programmers and a new creative director. Whatever that may be.
That's actually the least problem when it comes to the two canons. Angel existence is neither confirmed nor denied in the DMC canon. Eva's entire history and character is a mystery. Dante and Vergil probably just never learned their mother was Angel and neither did the other characters (that is at least how Capcom can attempt to explain it).DarҖaoZ;47324218 said:
The real problem is the Sparda/Mundus relationship. Sparda rebelled against Mundus for the sake of mankind and succeeded but died due to unknown causes.. In DmC Sparda fucked an Angel and was branded a traitor then imprisoned for eternity but is still alive. That and Nephilims are on a higher tier of power than either Mundus or Sparda which was the opposite in the original DMC series. This difference is very important because most of the stories in DMC revolve around acquiring the godly powers of Sparda but who the hell is going to want Sparda's power in DmC?
Hematocryal
Banned
I'm a hater of hack n' slash but I'm an advocate of diversity and its kind of unsettling this games not selling well. Something happened to the market and while I'm not sure exactly what it was, its certainly not for the better. This is good quality too. It hasn't been out all that long though, so hopefully it looks up.
call_kotaku
Member
DarҖaoZ;47324218 said:
I don't think Capcom US is accepting calls from DMC fans right now
IIRC, Eva being human is DMC canon. The whole "valuing their humanity" thing comes up quite a bit, and Dante and Vergil are half-human/half-demon. But as you said, the existence of heaven or angels has never been touched on.
That's actually a pretty cool idea. Vergil has amnesia and is just journeying through hell/limbo without knowing who he is. Player thinks its Dante with amnesia... then bam Uncle Dante and Nero appear to pull Vergil out of Hell.
I would seriousky cream my pants if Vergil says "I have fucking returned". NT DO IT PLZ!!!
I would seriousky cream my pants if Vergil says "I have fucking returned". NT DO IT PLZ!!!
Yup, more reasons of why DmC can't be in the same universe as DMC. And I have no problem with that really.
The main problem was the PR, I think most people wouldn't have made a HUGE issue if Capcom/Ninja Theory would have gone and say something like this:
"We present you DmC! Yes, this is not the same DMC you all love, but don't worry! DMC is still alive, this is a Spin-off of DMC. We have some many great ideas but and all those wouldn't be possible in the DMC universe. So we decided to create a new Universe with a new more agressive Dante and for that new vision we thought that a Wester Developer would be a great help. So we brought Ninja Theory. The game will play a lot like the original DMC but in a new way and in a new universe!"
Or something along those lines. I think many wouldn't have overreacted and gone haywire, including myself. I didn't like the "reboot" word, because it made me think Capcom ignored DMC completely and wasn't going to work on it anymore. Well... we aren't sure if they will atm anymore. =/
PaulExcellent
Member
There was a lot of confusion early on whether DmC was a remake/reboot/prequel. After the severe backlash Capcom/NT basically confirmed that it was an alternate universe reboot which was the least offensive route they could've taken. If this was a prequel the vitriol would've been even more intense.
While they have hinted at the existence of the OG series it really felt like they were trying to make this into the standard for the series IF it did well. There were interviews where sequel and additional story was hinted at.
As of now the future of the series is completely up in the air. One thing I can say for sure is that I do not expect the next DMC game (DmC2 or DMC5) to get a massive AAA budget. It never really did to be honest but I don't even think Capcom can afford to put as much resources and time into DMC5 as they did with DMC4. That game actually went through quite a few revisions.
While they have hinted at the existence of the OG series it really felt like they were trying to make this into the standard for the series IF it did well. There were interviews where sequel and additional story was hinted at.
As of now the future of the series is completely up in the air. One thing I can say for sure is that I do not expect the next DMC game (DmC2 or DMC5) to get a massive AAA budget. It never really did to be honest but I don't even think Capcom can afford to put as much resources and time into DMC5 as they did with DMC4. That game actually went through quite a few revisions.
Calling DmC an 'alternate universe spin-off' would have been the least offensive route. Reboot implies the resetting or overriding of an existing universe. Operation Raccoon City, for example, was a spin-off.
Infinite Justice
Member
As said i try not to remember much about that thing
Checked out the manga and its unfortunate it didn't continue. And Vergil with dat SWAG
Gave back Dante's half of the amulet to him just for the fucking hell of it
Infinite Justice
Member
yea
her mom was still alive at that point
Would have been interesting to see how that went to shit.
call_kotaku
Member
I wonder what Tom Cruise Uncle Dante looks like with slicked back hair, somehow I don't imagine it'd be a good look since the shape of his face is so different now.
I still love the anime.
It really gave a look into what Dante would have to deal with between events big enough for games. It was so great to have him enjoying Sundays and taking on odd jobs between killing gods.
Loved the Trish and Lady stuff as well which was weird given my distaste for Lady. Also the music was top notch as well. I was just pissed the majority of the action happens off screen and they totally chocked on giving us a proper Devil Trigger fight.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
He also has to be fully naked when they get him too. You know, for, like, dramatic effect or whatever.
Just make damn sure he's naked is all I'm saying.