For this reason I'm personally conflicted on the fanbase, I've seen them be horrible online but I've had good experiences with every brony I've met in real life so idk.
But uhhhh... given the type of folk that tend to be bronies outwardly, I'm not sure we'd click.
Much like everything it depends on the person.
Maybe if they didn't call themselves bronies and just called themselves a dude who occasionally likes to watch My Little Pony stoned?
I remember when I asked my DotA buddy why he watched it he said that the writing was good and that there was lots of stuff thrown in for adults. That argument never made sense to me, because you know what else is well written and designed to appeal to adults? Tons of shows that aren't cartoons for kids.
I have noticed on Tumblr and here on GAF that the people who watch MLP typically only watch other children's shows like Adventure Time, Regular Show, Gravity Falls, Avatar, Korra, Steven Universe etc. I'm not a psychologist or anything, but I imagine being emotionally or developmentally stunted has something to do with it.
Maybe if they didn't call themselves bronies and just called themselves a dude who occasionally likes to watch My Little Pony stoned?
So you feel the same way about Trekkies, Browncoats, Whovians ect? What is this hang up over a title?
It's a good show that's obviously intended for younger kids, but appeals to adults the same way something like Spongebob or similar cartoons do.
No, because I also understand that despite what bronies desperately wish, those shows are actually aimed at audiences in their age group and there are actual elements that are clearly thematically for adults (although I have no clue what a Browncoat is).
As has already been stated this show was aiming for an all ages group, it's even gaining popularity among boys in the expected age bracket. it's mean for everyone. The brands legacy seems to be its biggest enemy.
Browncoats are Firefly fans.
Yes, it is popular amongst grown ass boys.
It's for little girls though, no matter how much people continually protest. I mean it's hilarious if you want to die on that cross, but it's for little girls. And the showrunners are going to say otherwise if it means more grown ass men sit down in front of the tubes and watch, if it means boys will watch. But it's for little girls. They simply designed a show for young girls whose greatest and most amazing adult accomplishment is throwing in pop culture references. Wowzers.
Yes, it is popular amongst grown ass boys.
It's for little girls though, no matter how much people continually protest. I mean it's hilarious if you want to die on that cross, but it's for little girls. And the showrunners are going to say otherwise if it means more grown ass men sit down in front of the tubes and watch, if it means boys will watch. But it's for little girls. They simply designed a show for young girls whose greatest and most amazing adult accomplishment is throwing in pop culture references. Wowzers.
I've never seen a spongebob fan that self-identifies his personality to the cartoon, just like bronies do.
Bronies are just a weird specie of people
I thought a bronie is someone that actually wants to bang the my little ponies. Or are you a bronie when you watch the thing? People that watch Spongebob aren't called Spongebros or something.
Its just a name for a fan. Obviously there are many different types of fans, from the type your talking about, to people who just discuss the episodes on forums. You dont have to be a brony if you like the show, you don't even have to be a brony if you like the fan content. The way I think about is if you think you're a brony, you're a brony.
I think a main issue in this thread is defining what a brony is. Personally I take it simply as a term for describing an invested fan of the show that's not particularly exclusive to males as I've seen/read females also use the term.
I think the female version of a brony is a pegasister
Not just "grown ass boys"
http://www.chicagonow.com/hammervision/2015/08/parents-your-sons-can-watch-my-little-pony/
It's not just pop culture references. It's well written characters, good animation, a detailed lore that is constantly being expanded and great songs. Who put it in your head that all we care is the references?
I only watch mature and well-written shows like Grimm and Dexter.
It's for little girls. This article doesn't actually argue against it being for little girls, just that it's OK for boys to watch a show with powerful female characters. I agree with that. The show is still quite clearly made for girls. At no point of course does the article argue it's for grown ass girls or boys either, because of course it's not.
"Well written characters", my gosh. Please, elaborate on the splendorous depth of the character writing in My Little Pony, which teachers quaint little life lessons that are about as complex as it's saccharine nonsense tagline "Friendship is Magic." Or its so-called "good animation", which frankly looks like a billion other mass produced flash animated television series which also don't deserve my time of day. 'Detailed lore'? 'Great songs'? I mean, christ. This is why nobody is getting convinced ITT. It's OK to like the show man. Indulge in it. Take a bath with MLP toys if you want. But yeah, it's not for me, never will be for me, and anyone who likes the show enough to self-identify as a 'brony' is probably not friend material for me.
You don't have to be condescending. Obviously these things are subjective, for me, the above applies. All the characters have depth to me, it's hard to put that into words. But in terms of lore, historical events, different races, the rules of the world. Call backs are made continuity is, believe it or not, considered important (an entire episode was nearly scrapped for this reason). As for animation, the quality gets better every year, from just last season. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu5lymyoca0
And finally music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzsxfO7dBlA
Again this all subjective and these are my reasons. I don't expect you get it, you've obviously made up your mind as to what you think bronies are.
Indeed, subjective. Of course. But I think the problem is that many bronies don't actually understand what they keep arguing. There is a difference between a show made for girls that happens to have wider appeal and a show clearly made for everyone with themes that are made to resonate with multiple age groups. And I think it's important the distinction be made, because it's not semantics.
Take a show like Steven Universe. I use this show because it is a show made by a female showrunner, whose primary cast is composed mainly of females, or at least gender-identify as feminine. But it is clearly made from the word go with all age groups in minds, as it deals with complex issues using fusion as a metaphor for relationships (and same-sex relationships specifically in many cases). It deals with subject matters that are actually completely out of the realm of the understanding of children. Things such as obsession in a relationship (and look at the multilayered songs that result), how some relationships are poison for one another. There's an episode that deals with our hero realizing that his escapades are actually dangerous, and how he might not want to involve those who truly cares about in his adventures as a result. There's an episode that deals with the pain of a tumultuous home environment (metaphor of divorce, fighting, etc) as a kid blames himself for what is going wrong. There's episodes that deal with self-loathing, and an episode with a moment so profoundly fucked up it still is heavy watching all this time later as an adult (the episode where Greg and Amethyst are cleaning out the storage garage).
I'm not saying this to say "my show is better than yours", that's absurd. I don't identify as a "UNIVERSIE" or whatever the fuck it'd be. But one show is made for all ages, legitimately. Adults too. And one show is for girls that just so happen to somehow resonate with wider groups.
There are stallions and a lot of non-pony males. The ratio is pretty bad, but they're not actually rare.Are there any male ponies in the show? They're all colored like a rainbow's barf so I don't know what gender they're. What do they do about horses penises?
There are stallions and a lot of non-pony males. The ratio is pretty bad, but they're not actually rare.
I can give you a similar argument with MLP. An episode dealing with the desires of the artist vs the desires of the client, an episode about a disablity, there's even episode that uses the five stages of grief and deals with the concept of loss (albeit using an allegory for death instead of the real thing). I haven't watched SU and it is clearly mean for all ages but so is MLP as has been stated, maybe they aren't able get away with things quite as blantantly (not they don't try) but it was was the intent of Lauren Faust from the beginning.
Indeed, subjective. Of course. But I think the problem is that many bronies don't actually understand what they keep arguing. There is a difference between a show made for girls that happens to have wider appeal and a show clearly made for everyone with themes that are made to resonate with multiple age groups. And I think it's important the distinction be made, because it's not semantics.
Take a show like Steven Universe. I use this show because it is a show made by a female showrunner, whose primary cast is composed mainly of females, or at least gender-identify as feminine. But it is clearly made from the word go with all age groups in minds, as it deals with complex issues using fusion as a metaphor for relationships (and same-sex relationships specifically in many cases). It deals with subject matters that are actually completely out of the realm of the understanding of children. Things such as obsession in a relationship (and look at the multilayered songs that result), how some relationships are poison for one another. There's an episode that deals with our hero realizing that his escapades are actually dangerous, and how he might not want to involve those who truly cares about in his adventures as a result. There's an episode that deals with the pain of a tumultuous home environment (metaphor of divorce, fighting, etc) as a kid blames himself for what is going wrong. There's episodes that deal with self-loathing, and an episode with a moment so profoundly fucked up it still is heavy watching all this time later as an adult (the episode where Greg and Amethyst are cleaning out the storage garage).
I'm not saying this to say "my show is better than yours", that's absurd. I don't identify as a "UNIVERSIE" or whatever the fuck it'd be. But one show is made for all ages, legitimately. Adults too. And one show is for girls that just so happen to somehow resonate with wider groups.