I prefer 3D fighters but funny enough DOA started off as my least favourite, but 'least' makes it sound like I didn't like it which I absolutely did it's just Tekken, Soul Calibur and VF took priority. And now DOA has not only become my favourite 3D fighter it's my most anticipated game of the year.
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DOA5 Gameplay videos.
- Thread starter DR2K
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DOA has been my favourite fighter for years now. I don't care if DOAU and DOA4 were no good for competitive play, I had tremendous fun with their online modes, and am I right in thinking they set the structure for online which would later be used by all fighters (In terms of lobbies, grading for skill levels etc.)?
The Faceless Master
Member
i only do that with Battlefield. 360 only for me on DOA5!
We'll need to start sessions up again. Good times with me, you, HDTran, Seiatsu, Grape.
HYPE!
How close is it in play style to VF5? Does it also do the whole "turn based" fighting aspect?
That and the whole crouch jab thing didn't sit too well with me when I tried VF5.
2p is weaker in DoA. They're unique by character and much slower. There's also the universal counter which would allow anybody getting too predictable to be punished.
I don't understand what you mean by turn based.
Set the structure? Yes.
Modern fighters still trying to catch up with the featureset of an OG xbox game? Yes.
It's closer to VF5 in terms of fighting than it is to something like Tekken, but it flows a lot more. It doesn't have the whole 'trading blows' thing that other 3D fighters have.
The Faceless Master
Member
this isn't *entirely* relevant but in the Lisa vs Ayane #1 video, Ayane starts the first 3 rounds off with a low punch. in the 1st round it hits, and in the 2nd and 3rd, it's countered. in the 4th round, Ayane starts the round with a low throw and gets a damage bonus! just thought that was a funny anecdote somewhat related to your post.
It's basically a simple explanation of how frames work in 3D fighters: If you get hit, don't press buttons. If you block something, it's your turn to attack e.t.c.
There's obviously exceptions to this but it's a decent idea to give to newer players.
It's a bit more dynamic than that in DOA since you can counter every move, there are also quite a few offensive throws.
DOA is more rock paper scissors than turnbased combat. Though they've been working on reducing guesswork in DOA 5
The only game that I can think of that's like this is SC4, lol. DoA4, as well...I suppose. Everything on block was at severe disadvantage in those two games.
There's actually a phrase for people who attack from disadvantage in VF. Abare? Something like that.
But, yeah, that's not really true of 3D fighters. Most good players will use things that leave them at advantage to press their offense.
EteRnal PAL
Member
Lovely videos. Game looks better every time I see it.
Does anyone know whether or not the pre-order swimsuits will be available as DLC?
My dilemma is that I main Tina and would like to have every available costume for her. GameStop and Amazon pre-orders both offer "bunny-style swimsuits", GameStop will grant you white swimsuits for Kasumi, Leifang, and Hitomi while Amazon offers black swimsuits for Christie, Tina, and Ayane.
I plan on getting the Collector's Edition (exclusive to Gamestop) but the pre-order bunny swimsuit for Tina is from Amazon. Hate this pre-order crap.
Does anyone know whether or not the pre-order swimsuits will be available as DLC?
My dilemma is that I main Tina and would like to have every available costume for her. GameStop and Amazon pre-orders both offer "bunny-style swimsuits", GameStop will grant you white swimsuits for Kasumi, Leifang, and Hitomi while Amazon offers black swimsuits for Christie, Tina, and Ayane.
I plan on getting the Collector's Edition (exclusive to Gamestop) but the pre-order bunny swimsuit for Tina is from Amazon. Hate this pre-order crap.
Like I said, it's a simple way to look at frames. Then you add in the concept of trying to "steal" turns which can be attacking out of disadvantage, sidestepping, parrying e.t.c.
.la1n
Member
I think I hear Kick-Ass's main theme from the OST in the background, haha.
Thanks guys, I'll keep looking through match vids to see if its for me.
I really dislike the juggle mechanic in general in 3D fighters. Keeping people up in the air with jabs and whatnot looks so silly (especially when they put so much work into the realism aspect).
IGN's youtube page has a bunch of vids, and more to come this weekend after a tournament. Should be able to find the E3 tourney which is a lot of matches.
shaowebb
Member
Very nice matches, Vanessa was so good.
Watching the counter mechanic in action in those vids it really reminds me of the parry system from 3rd Strike. Exact same prediction, guessing, fishing etc. going on in those matches.
Really like the pace/flow of the game.
There is a critical difference. When you hit your opponent in SF3, you get guaranteed damage, Your opponent has multiple chances to escape said damage even after the initial strike in DoA.
Ragingnight
Member
This so much.
/It always felt like you never got a good reward in DOA for hitting your opponent. It was like "they made a mistake, I capitalize and hit them but they guess right on the next counter and I lose 30% health"
3rd strike was "I made the right read, now you lose 40% hp" or "I made the wrong read, now I lose 40% hp"
Only in the "opening ceremony" vid.
chronos4590
Member
This keeps on looking better. Jann Lee and Bass Look like Power houses. I'm gonna have to give them A shot, especially Jann Lee XD
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I plan on getting this on PS3 first. The fighting community is almost always much stronger from my experience and I prefer the controller for fighters. I'll probably end up getting the X360 version later to have another fighter on it though.
That's great to hear.
I noticed it in the vids but wasn't sure if the system was like that or if the players weren't capitalizing properly.
DR2K
Banned
It the depends on the intial strike. If the initial strike put you in a limbo stun, then you will not be able to hold out of it and you can easily lose half your health for getting hit.
If you want to play DOA4s stun game and fish for CB you're more than welcome to, but you have other viable options to score damage depending on the character.
Like the hat?
Banned
Looks like DoA.
that's a great thing
This is true, right now, for some characters, but I still see a lot of DoA4 in these vids. I don't think we saw more than one or two CBs in these vids, and very few sitdown stuns, no limbo stuns.
And even if all of that were commonplace, DoA is in a common state of flux and I wouldn't count on any of that being in at release. CBs have been made considerably worse since E3. Who knows what will change come the 25th.
Could be for the better, could be for the worse. DoA4 looked good before launch. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...
Still, I'm hopeful.
DR2K
Banned
Old habits die hard. If you look at the Lisa vs Ayane video, Lisa had a few guaranteed options, but the player decided to mix up more regardless. With more character familarity and adjustment to the new system it would have been seen less and less.
Bass doesn't play the stun game at all. His goal is to pick you up and keep himself at advantage. Leifang used her holds to get her damage, she didn't really play the stun game either. That Jann didn't play the stun game much, but when he did it was out of his insanely fast stance. He was fishing for offensive holds, side steps, and his back punch string.
We're starting to see some real diversity in playstyles with the characters with each build that passes. Pretty exciting imo.
How to Fight Drunk in a DOA 5 Demo
Gen Fu and Eliot don't use the same styles..
Genfu: Xinyi Liuhe Quan
Eliot: Xing Yi Quan
Correct me if I'm wrong please.
Gen Fu and Eliot don't use the same styles..
Genfu: Xinyi Liuhe Quan
Eliot: Xing Yi Quan
Correct me if I'm wrong please.
DR2K
Banned
I'm not crazy then yays.
Brad looks fun to use but something tells me he might be hard to use. I'll give everyone a spin in the end anyway to choose my mains.
DR2K
Banned
Brad Wong was especially hard to use because he had so many moves, but they were never really worth it to learn because he was never any good. Hopefully this changes.
I know he was never good enough but hopefully this time he is more easy to work with since I do like his style.
Hopefully more than 50. I like the idea of having the OST, Poster and Artbook. (DLC too and Special Casing is an extra)
It would be nice if it was as good as the one that came with The Witcher 2. That was over 200.
Not a chance of that happening though.
I also still want to know if that second rap from the trailer is original or licensed. If that was on the OST, that'd be cool.
It has been said all original. No idea about the OST music since there is no details yet.
Was the art book that came with Ninja Gaiden a full size art book or was it the size of a dvd case? From the looks of the collectors edition pics of DoA it looks like it will be a dvd case sized art book like mortal kombat.