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Donkey Kong Country Returns announced [N-CONF]
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JasonUresti
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apana said:
No one was upset because it was a 2d game.
It was that, a studio that many members came from a PC game development background, and had shown great art and design sensibility in FPS did not seem like a great fit for a cartoon side scrolling platformer. 2d platforming level design must, necessarily, be a whole different beast from making an exploration heavy FPS.
Additionally, I think many of us were hoping that Retro would be allowed to cook up something original, a property and set of gameplay mechanics they were enthusiastic about and the creators of.
I've become quite pleased with how the game looks and am looking forward to playing. A part of me still wishes Nintendo let Retro do something fresh though.
JasonUresti said:
Yeah, me too, but it probably isn't going to happen, since nostalgia makes more money.
EAD Tokyo's case is related; when they finished Jungle Beat (all praise) they wanted to do something new, but Miyamoto asked them to take Mario on instead. The result was awesome two times over, but I can't help but wonder... what would they have come up with otherwise?
As I understand it Retro were working on some "experiments" but they themselves decided to go for Donkey Kong when offered, Miyamoto thought that they would reject it. I dont know about EAD Tokyo but it is possible that they will now work on something new since Miyamoto was mentioning creating a new ip.
ShockingAlberto
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I don't think Retro has even tried to make a Sports collection gameShiggy said:
Ignis Fatuus
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Shiggy said:
The only thing it needs is a proper shadow from DK, and not the blob. Otherwise I think the graphics are really fantastic. Every part of the environment seems to animated in some way, the lighting looks great, and the particle effects are to no surprise great as well.
It doesn't use the darker style of Rare's games, but it still looks really nice. It doesn't look flat and lifeless, like a lot of shitty games in this style do.
ShockingAlberto said:
Well, they've both cancelled various games/prototypes...that's one similarity at least.
Imo Retro should've sticked to the DKC1-3 style...right now I cannot find images which show the quality of those graphics. The backgrounds looked a lot better on those SGI stations (I think that it was these things) than in the final SNES games.
Ignis Fatuus said:
Well that was a 3D game.
I'm just not too happy with the game's graphics. Especially the DK model looked much better in DKJB. Of course, what's way more important is the game itself which will be no disappointment at all. That's probably why it's better that Rare isn't making it
(And I am probably one of the few people who didn't think that Conker Xbox looked very good.)
An important point to which I can only agree with!
HotGarbage
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I smiled the whole way through.ShockingAlberto said:
Looks great!
Tricky I Shadow
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Shiggy said:
Blasphemy! I think the graphics look amazing, and no, not just for a Wii game!
Technically, artistically, animations plus attention to detail are all top notch!
Retro can do no wrong....they're the best in the business at the moment IMHO.
Based on what? Metroid Prime was fucking fantastic, probably my favorite game of last gen. But MP2 wasn't anything special, and 3 was fairly mediocre throughout.Tricky I Shadow said:Blasphemy! I think the graphics look amazing, and no, not just for a Wii game!
Technically, artistically, animations plus attention to detail are all top notch!
Retro can do no wrong....they're the best in the business at the moment IMHO.
Also, this game needs some more snow/factory levels. Thanks.
redbarchetta
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robor said:
Funny you mention this. I was playing both DKCR and the 3DS in Nintendo's private room at their booth, and was able to hop immediately from the 3DS to DKCR. My first thought was that DKCR should be in 3D, much like WarioWare, as it would give the plane switching much more oomph.
With that said, DKCR is fantastic--just sort of surprising that it wasn't made a 3DS game.
Anticitizen One
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Can you ride animals in this game like the swordfish and that ostrich wearing nike sneakers?
redbarchetta
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Anticitizen One said:
Unfortunately, there have been no animal buddies in the playable demos they've shown off at E3 and PAX. However, Rambo the Rhino should be in the game, based on the box art. Which means, he's likely playable at the least.
AceBandage
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Glix said:
They were taken completely out of context and twisted.
He was under extreme pressure and was being pestered about a western dev taking his job as king of platformers.
But, I mean, the guy helped design and create the original DKC...
redbarchetta
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AceBandage said:
He also offered these recent comments in response to a related question from IGN:
IGN: I was interviewing them earlier, and even though you weren't directly involved you were definitely very inspirational in making sure certain things were done in that game correctly. I'm wondering, which parts of Donkey Kong Country did you like versus not like? And what did you address with them?
Miyamoto: The first point that I want to make is that I actually worked very closely with Rare on the original Donkey Kong Country. And apparently recently some rumor got out that I didn't really like that game? I just want to clarify that that's not the case, because I was very involved in that. And even emailing almost daily with Tim Stamper right up until the end.
And with this game too, I'll be involved on a check/confirmation level, looking over the game and checking the content. So it'll probably be a similar role to what I played in the development of Donkey Kong Jungle Beat.
In terms of things that I really wanted to see them focus on, particularly was the idea that in the original Donkey Kong Country the rendering and the effects that they used were very different from what you'd see in a Mario game. It had a very distinct feel. I thought it was important for them to keep that in mind. And also the fun of seeing the motion of that Donkey Kong hand slap is something that you don't get in other games as well.
And with this game too, I'll be involved on a check/confirmation level, looking over the game and checking the content. So it'll probably be a similar role to what I played in the development of Donkey Kong Jungle Beat.
In terms of things that I really wanted to see them focus on, particularly was the idea that in the original Donkey Kong Country the rendering and the effects that they used were very different from what you'd see in a Mario game. It had a very distinct feel. I thought it was important for them to keep that in mind. And also the fun of seeing the motion of that Donkey Kong hand slap is something that you don't get in other games as well.
Anticitizen One
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redbarchetta said:Unfortunately, there have been no animal buddies in the playable demos they've shown off at E3 and PAX. However, Rambo the Rhino should be in the game, based on the box art. Which means, he's likely playable at the least.
hmm that doesnt look anything like Rambi from what I recall.
edit: nevermind I guess it does
redbarchetta
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Anticitizen One said:
Looks pretty similar, imo. The body and facial expressions look a bit odd, but otherwise he looks pretty close.
And here's a higher-rez version of the Returns box, for comparison:
HeresSomeWeapons
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The Rhino's name is Rambi.
Just putting that out there.
Just putting that out there.
redbarchetta
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HeresSomeWeapons said:
Argh, I knew that! Stupid brain.
redbarchetta
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apana said:
Well, sure. I'm just suggesting it would have worked well on the 3DS.
Tricky I Shadow
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From Wiki:
Under the control of a group of evil Tikis, the animals on DK Island have stolen Donkey Kong's bananas, forcing him to retrieve the hoard with the help of Diddy Kong.
So the animals are under control eh? Well maybe that's the reason Rambi is looking so depressed on the cover? Perhaps hes being controlled! Evil Rambi anyone!? : O
Under the control of a group of evil Tikis, the animals on DK Island have stolen Donkey Kong's bananas, forcing him to retrieve the hoard with the help of Diddy Kong.
So the animals are under control eh? Well maybe that's the reason Rambi is looking so depressed on the cover? Perhaps hes being controlled! Evil Rambi anyone!? : O
Hot Coldman
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Alucard said:
:lol