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[Pratfall]

would you yell at a medusa getting a point or two in split shot early?

split shot is toggleable, cleave isnt, so even if I think that is kind of a bad build, it doesn't destroy the creep equilibrium I am trying to maintain as a support by default.

 

[Quesa]

split shot is toggleable, cleave isnt, so even if I think that is kind of a bad build, it doesn't destroy the creep equilibrium I am trying to maintain as a support by default.

I think I could see it on an offlane sven or something vs a melee carry. Switch out with a jungler once you get the levels and mom to farm forever

 

[bounchfx]

Buy two micro plushies at PAX South.

Both are Lich...

lich gonna have ur moolah

 

[NormalFish]

Cleave on sven is also decent in comps that want to fast push (pugna/jakiro/etc.). helps him to get early farm since laning stage doesn't last as long and lanes are generally pushed in.

Luna glaives, though, are literally never good early. God I hate when people level that skill before 20 minutes.

 

[Razzer]

Or if you wanna take the tower early, then alternate between lane and jungle.

 

[Ember Spirit]

Luna glaives, though, are literally never good early. God I hate when people level that skill before 20 minutes.

it's all about da early glaives and mom

 

[Arkanius]

Desolator Phantom Assassin instead of Satanic for better mid-game
Y/N ?

 

[Monochromaticx]

Desolator Phantom Assassin instead of Satanic for better mid-game
Y/N ?

NO

 

[shira]

http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/4465/

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

So what would a hero like Phantom Assassin get as an Aghs upgrade that would neither be broken nor useless? I really can't think of anything.

Maybe give her another dagger a la Timbersaw. But why would I spend 4k gold for that.

 

[Haly]

Double the crit multipllier of all levels of Cup the Grass.

 

[Monochromaticx]

Make dagger global and hit everyone on its path.

 

[bbd23]

make Coup de Grace effect enemies in an AOE around the target

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

Make your Coup de Grace an active ability that you can use to give your allies the crit for 10 seconds.

 

[Chris R]

Make dagger global and hit everyone on its path.

Maybe make it fan out (insert degrees here, maybe 25?) and only hit the unit type targeted? That might be cool and could be balanced with range/fan changes.

 

[Acinixys]

So what would a hero like Phantom Assassin get as an Aghs upgrade that would neither be broken nor useless? I really can't think of anything.

Maybe give her another dagger a la Timbersaw. But why would I spend 4k gold for that.

When you kill an enemy blood runs down their screen and the mortal combat announcer shouts "FATALITY"

 

[Drkirby]

So what would a hero like Phantom Assassin get as an Aghs upgrade that would neither be broken nor useless? I really can't think of anything.

Maybe give her another dagger a la Timbersaw. But why would I spend 4k gold for that.

Well, while boring you could just increase the crit multiplier. Make it 350%/450%/550% with scepter.

Or maybe buff her blur with scepter, make her completely invisible to the enemy when no on is near by, similar to smoke where sentry wards won't reveal her ether.

 

[Haly]

100% dodge.

KAPPA

 

[FACE]

Well, while boring you could just increase the crit multiplier. Make it 350%/450%/550% with scepter.

Or maybe buff her blur with scepter, make her completely invisible to the enemy when no on is near by, similar to smoke where sentry wards won't reveal her ether.

That'd be mega bullshit.

 

[Anno]

Attacks that get through blur check again at 35%, such attacks can't be countered by MKB Or hexes. I dunno.

 

[Technosteve]

france sucks, the sun never shines here, and I have a potato laptop so i can't play dota

 

[Monochromaticx]

better idea. Coup degrace effects building. boom.

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

Well, while boring you could just increase the crit multiplier. Make it 350%/450%/550% with scepter.

Or maybe buff her blur with scepter, make her completely invisible to the enemy when no on is near by, similar to smoke where sentry wards won't reveal her ether.

I don't think any of the new aghs upgrades have been that boring though, they all add a unique twist like ET, Puck, Lina.

Maybe if Blur couldn't get countered by MKB.

better idea. Coup degrace effects building. boom.

Only if it still had the blood splashing effect.

 

[Haly]

Add her attack damage and all attack modifiers to daggers.

 

[call_kotaku]

aghs makes her crit proc the same way brewmaster's new crit does

 

[Quesa]

I don't think any of the new aghs upgrades have been that boring though, they all add a unique twist like ET, Puck, Lina.

Maybe if Blur couldn't get countered by MKB.


Only if it still had the blood splashing effect.

Crits spawn daggers that crit on nearby enemies

 

[kvk1]

france sucks, the sun never shines here, and I have a potato laptop so i can't play dota

inkls get off your alternate account

 

[shira]

aghs makes her crit proc the same way brewmaster's new crit does

Shadowblade PA

 

[Jay Shadow]

Give Coup de Grace proc cleave.

 

[Sianos]

So I was thinking that the popular builds nowadays are the 'stack multiple cheap stat items + one cheap teamfight item'. Stuff like multiple Wraith Band + Mask of Madness Drow, multiple Null Talisman + Blade Mail Furion, etc. I'm sure there's plenty of others.

At what point do you say "enough early game items I need to build something larger"? Is it on a case by case basis or do you hit certain numbers with a certain amount of early game items?

I sometimes feel like I build too many early game centric items, I too am curious to get input on this.

 

[manfestival]

http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/4465/

Worst freaking news all DAY

DANGIT PERU WHY?! POR QUEEEE???

 

[Arkanius]

NO

Why not may I ask?
I feel that Desolator is the superior orb when paired with Crits, and PA has plenty of them.

 

[Hylian7]

A Jugg with only one point in Bladefury.....what....

 

[Pratfall]

A Jugg with only one point in Bladefury.....what....

its the new build. stats jugg with MoM, 1 point in crit.

 

[Hylian7]

its the new build. stats jugg with MoM, 1 point in crit.

That's exactly what he said and it's legit garbage. Why would you only get one point in YOUR HIGHEST DAMAGING SKILL EARLY GAME?!

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

A Jugg with only one point in Bladefury.....what....

It's really common

I actually don't like it that much, lower cd can save your life later on, higher dps is whatever though.

That's exactly what he said and it's legit garbage. Why would you only get one point in YOUR HIGHEST DAMAGING SKILL EARLY GAME?!

Depends on if you have a chance to use it to get kills, if you're in a lane in which a kill is not going to happen(offlane or vs an offlaner that never shows up) you're better off getting stats.

 

[SteveWinwood]

That's exactly what he said and it's legit garbage. Why would you only get one point in YOUR HIGHEST DAMAGING SKILL EARLY GAME?!

theory craft math makes it come out more or less equal with the stats to your right click or whatever there was a post about it

 

[Hylian7]

theory craft math makes it come out more or less equal with the stats to your right click or whatever there was a post about it

But one of these is guaranteed and one isn't....

 

[xanavi]

But one of these is guaranteed and one isn't....

But that's what the pros do and if you don't copy them then you'll never be pro.

 

[1.09]

hylian ur wrong 1 point bladefury is the absolute with the new crit changes.

deal with it

 

[Hylian7]

hylian ur wrong 1 point bladefury is the absolute with the new crit changes.

deal with it

That doesn't make any sense. Why would you go for more crit when you have low attack speed and aren't guaranteed crits when you aren't RNGesus, when you could just do something classic like Jugg CM and kill people early game?

 

[Demoli]

GG wp raytow, good luck on the raffles!

 

[Hylian7]

But that's what the pros do and if you don't copy them then you'll never be pro.

EE maxes remnant on Storm Spirit. That doesn't make it good.

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

Waga going for Lone Druid support on his stream

thought it was worth mentioning

 

[xanavi]

EE maxes remnant on Storm Spirit. That doesn't make it good.

Well it's a good thing he doesn't get to play storm in officials.

 

[shira]

GG wp raytow, good luck on the raffles!

ok
Can you and ES PM each other to setup the next one, thanks

 

[Quesa]

Ok im dumb but I don't get it

I thought auto attacks done during fury didn't do damage?

 

[NBtoaster]

You can really justify any build on Jugg because the champion is op.

 

[xanavi]

Ok im dumb but I don't get it

I thought auto attacks done during fury didn't do damage?

They'll do damage to anything that is immune to damage from bladefury like towers or bkb heroes.

 

[Pratfall]

Ok im dumb but I don't get it

I thought auto attacks done during fury didn't do damage?

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2rriqw/early_juggernaut_dps_1011_vs_1041/