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Dragon Ball Kai Official Thread
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ThatObviousUser
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That seems about right, Nicktoons is sort of a new network to most people and it's trying to make a name for itself now.
I wonder how 300k compares to other shows.
I wonder how 300k compares to other shows.
ThatObviousUser
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Wowzer. I didn't know CW4kids was so popular.
Unknown One
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I got a better one. When Goku Instant Transmissioned Cell to King Kai. Why didn't he just teleport back to Earth? He had plenty of time to Save King Kai and the rest of the group as well.FreeMufasa said:
Maybe... Maybe Goku could have been the one Cell would have killed and not Trunks.D-Pad said:But Goku would have still been alive... Now whether that be good or bad is anyone's guess.I wonder how it would have affected Gohan's studies, as I'd imagine Goku would have been somewhat of a distraction. Maybe Gohan wouldn't have grown up so... Weak...
Also, Goku did promise Chi Chi that once the crisis was over, Gohan would go back to studying and becoming a scholar and all that. And with 7 years of peace, it would have been possible. Who knows of Goku would have kept that promise though?
TheVampire
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If goku really wanted to he could of even just used Instant Transmission to go from the afterlife back to Earth (like he did in movie 9) but then that would be breaking the rules blah blah.
Im pretty sure if he did no one would be able to stop him since he is that strong.
Im pretty sure if he did no one would be able to stop him since he is that strong.
ThatObviousUser
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No, but Goku pretty much is the strongest being in the universe by the end of DBZ. He could do whatever the hell he wants and King Yemma would just have to deal with it.
ThatObviousUser
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Coolio. Post some impressions.
D-Pad said:
DBO was never announced for North America, and still hasn't been released in Japan (though it will be). It's been Free to play in all of the countries it has been released in (which is South Korea, and Taiwan).
It seems Namco Bandai doesn't have much to do with the game, which may be why we haven't heard of any sort of US release as that would mean an MMO publisher would have to pick it up. There are free to play Digimon MMOs in North America (Digimon Battle, and Digimon Masters) so I'm sure it'll come here eventually.
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Didn't Cell gained Instant Transmission indirectly from Goku after Goku died? If so there would be no way Cell could return.Strider2K99 said:
Goku could then teleport Gohan over there to finish his ass off.
That makes me wonder how strong Goku really was at the end. If the was equal or even stronger then Uub who was about as strong as Kid Buu at normal state, how strong would he be at SSJ3?Andrex said:
I'm on the mobile site right now but I've only seen it on KanzentaiTizoc said:
edit: here we go, it was slightly rewritten.
http://www.kanzentai.com/features.php?id=fan_thoughts
more on it here
http://www.daizex.com/multimedia/images/db_manga_ending/index.shtml
Is it ok to link this?
Well, in Boo's storyline Vegeta's character finally comes full circle and admits to himself that he knows he'd never be able to defeat Goku, and that he's happy with that. Having him want to defeat Goku once again is a bit... odd. Nor do I think it's a bone being thrown at GT, since I don't recall Vegeta ever really fighting with Goku outside of when he was controlled by Bebi.
Also, some commentary on DBO - I didn't like it. The combat system was so not what I was expecting. I was expecting 1:1 combat like any other Dragon Ball non-JRPG video game, but instead I clicked a button, my avatar would react 3 seconds later and automatically defeat the opponent with little interaction from me. I found the graphics kind of janky, but as a free to play MMO I guess they want to try to get as many people playing as possible. I did like the interactions with characters, as I got to talk to Umigame, and Future Trunks. Too bad I couldn't understand what they were saying, nor could I skip their really, really long text rants...
Also, some commentary on DBO - I didn't like it. The combat system was so not what I was expecting. I was expecting 1:1 combat like any other Dragon Ball non-JRPG video game, but instead I clicked a button, my avatar would react 3 seconds later and automatically defeat the opponent with little interaction from me. I found the graphics kind of janky, but as a free to play MMO I guess they want to try to get as many people playing as possible. I did like the interactions with characters, as I got to talk to Umigame, and Future Trunks. Too bad I couldn't understand what they were saying, nor could I skip their really, really long text rants...
MetalFearSolid
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Strider2K99 said:
Cell doesn't explain how he got instant transmission, but explains how he remains perfect form. Really weird actually..
Takao said:
Toriyama changed it LONG after GT came out, so he knew where the studio took the story.
Vegeta undoing his epiphany makes zero sense.
So...other than showing a bit of kindness towards GT, since Vegeta does fight Goku (even controlled), there's no logical reason for Toriyama to do that. Unless it's just a joke.
I know when the Kanzeban were released, haha. I just meant it would be weird for him to retcon Vegeta's character for GT, since there was nothing in GT that truly goes against what Vegeta had admitted to in the Boo saga.
It's especially weird since Toriyama is quoted as saying GT is a sidestory, so why would he want to retcon his story to fit into that? Yes, I do know he retconed Bardock into the manga as well in the Kanzeban, but like Future Trunks, that was a very well received portion of the anime, GT not so much.
It's especially weird since Toriyama is quoted as saying GT is a sidestory, so why would he want to retcon his story to fit into that? Yes, I do know he retconed Bardock into the manga as well in the Kanzeban, but like Future Trunks, that was a very well received portion of the anime, GT not so much.
ThatObviousUser
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Wtf? No Free the Future? Fricking hell Toei.
Andrex said:
Trunks saves the future, but that's short, the rest is a recap of Kai, because the people who own the home release need to be reminded what happens in this show ...
Oh, and they supposedly throw in references to the After-Life Tournament because it's not like that arc was filler and this show's aim was to cut out filler or anything ...
ThatObviousUser
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That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Even dumber than not doing the Buu saga.
Takao said:
Right, so the little mischaracterization of Vegeta there makes zero sense, unless he wanted to troll his own long-time fans. Seems a bit odd for him to do so, especially with how upfront he is about other things.
So the only explanation I can see is that he didn't really watch GT...but heard Goku fights Vegeta and wanted to be Japanese-style polite towards GT's existence.
Andrex said:
I completely understand why Kai died, but still it is odd. At this point, they would no longer have to pay for music production as Yamamotto is gone, and would only have to pay royalties to Kikuchi, and for music placement. The animation wouldn't really need to be retouched because the Boo saga is generally good looking, and even though merchandise sales were low, both Toei and Bandai have properties that bring in less. They simply could've moved the show to a less viable timeslot/channel, or delayed Toriko's debut a year (which would help the anime move further away from potential filler). Due to the show now being in a worse place, they could lower wages for script production, editing, and voice over work. Then they'd have another stack of Kai episodes to sell abroad.
Chuck Norris
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Why does Cell gain knowledge from Goku's cells. That never made sense to me, its not like instant transmission was part of Goku's DNACelsior said:
ThatObviousUser
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Chuck Norris said:
Toriyama also explained Goten was so much stronger than Gohan at that point because Goky was stronger when he impregnated Chichi.
It's best not to think about these things.
DiipuSurotu
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Doesn't Vegeta appear in TONS of DB crossovers released after the end of DB? (And there's his little brother in the latest anime special, which Toriyama apparently has a writing credits for.) Maybe Toriyama just really, really likes Vegeta or something.jaxword said:
Takao said:
Anything that doesn't require effort. Or remembering things.
On the other hand, I'm not sure what's stopping Toei from making new things. The only new animation we've gotten since GT has been... the Jump anime special and Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans. what the hell?
That's not true, Toei created various new TV advertisements, and the opening animations for Budokai 2, 3, and Sagas (and depending on who you ask, Ultimate Tenkaichi)!
I guess they're afraid if they spend any effort they'll get another GT on their hands. I honestly do suspect they're prepping Naho Oshii to do a full remake of the series, or something to that scale eventually.
I guess they're afraid if they spend any effort they'll get another GT on their hands. I honestly do suspect they're prepping Naho Oshii to do a full remake of the series, or something to that scale eventually.
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