Dark_castle
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I've seen hentai with more animation effort put into it than the latest Dragon Ball S episode.
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... Or it's going to be just as bad. I mean, you think they'd put effort into everything, or at least something as big as DBZ. But look where we are now.
I'm surprised this didn't turn into a 4th Photoshop thread.
IAmRandom31
Banned
Yeah only this past episode and really only during the fight. The other stuff was fine.
I've actually loved the animations / drawing in this series so far, which is why this last episode / fight was so jarring. It was like man, wtf just happened here? Did everyone get sick in the office and they have to hire people off the street to cook something up in a day? Something like that? Cause man, its like it had no editing, no redrawing of some scenes, etc.
I think Goku's face structure changes about a dozen times in that episode.
Nintendoga
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The first three episodes are good, more humor and Slice of Life-ish instead of action. Episode 4's alright but feels a bit filler-y, even though that part was in BoG. Episode 5 is the first dud of the series so far. The animation in the other episodes weren't movie-like quality but they certainly weren't this,
There's also Captain Harlock, so they're capable of greatness apparently.
I think certain teams have a rough time just making due. It will probably get fixed later on, but it was so painful to watch.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
It's a retelling of BoG. Then it will do a retelling of Resurrection 'F', and finally they'll move on to an original saga involving
the 6th universe and Super Dragon Balls
I know I'm being a bit ignorant but it is supposed to be a movie series. If they can't put time and quality into that, then they are competely and utterly useless. A part of me hopes they can at least get the team who did the Thriller Bark arc in One Piece to do the movies and DBS.
But Toei has been doing a pretty good job with One Piece lately.
Icyflamez96
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BassForever
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Yeah in motion it didn't look as terrible as the screen caps have shown, but it still didn't look as good as the other episodes.
The bigger problem was how this fight was clearly drawn out by Goku acting completely out of character. Seeing him fail to hit Beerus for minutes first in SS1 then in SS2 was just so bizarre it felt far more like the scene was written for Vegeta and not for Goku. I can look past awful animation if the story and characters are good this fight lacked all the fun the BoG film version of this fight had.
The bigger problem was how this fight was clearly drawn out by Goku acting completely out of character. Seeing him fail to hit Beerus for minutes first in SS1 then in SS2 was just so bizarre it felt far more like the scene was written for Vegeta and not for Goku. I can look past awful animation if the story and characters are good this fight lacked all the fun the BoG film version of this fight had.
Yo.The first three episodes are good, more humor and Slice of Life-ish instead of action. Episode 4's alright but feels a bit filler-y, even though that part was in BoG. Episode 5 is the first dud of the series so far. The animation in the other episodes weren't movie-like quality but they certainly weren't this,
YO. Come the fuck on brehs, what is this? Jesus, that's horrible.
Tony Redgrave
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Well, they definitely don't care much for non-essential stuff, the animation was definitely better in the second half of the episode.
Pretty bad but, with budget and time constraints, it's hard to blame them especially with the first part being Goku just fooling around missing every hit. The quality of the animation in general seems pretty lackluster to me compared with other animation series but being an allegedly 100+ episodes project it's understandable I guess.
Pretty bad but, with budget and time constraints, it's hard to blame them especially with the first part being Goku just fooling around missing every hit. The quality of the animation in general seems pretty lackluster to me compared with other animation series but being an allegedly 100+ episodes project it's understandable I guess.
shadowsdarknes
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So do we think this is the last time we ever see SSJ3 in the series? (Unless Gotenks does it but its not even going to be helpful)
Its crazy how this transformation becomes weak and irrelevant. Its hard to imagine a SSJ3 Goku getting his ass kicked so hard.
Its crazy how this transformation becomes weak and irrelevant. Its hard to imagine a SSJ3 Goku getting his ass kicked so hard.
Ivan A Nguyen
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I don't mind the bad animation so much. What I do mind is the fact that they are basically saying that non SSJ Goku can't take freeza at his peak. I mean, WTF! He's way past Freeza by now. The guy is squatting like 5 huge ass plates above his head on a 10g planet. You're saying his resting power level is still no match for Freeza's max? Beerus is wearing a rose colored scouter, because his memories of Freeza's power levels are incredibly out of wack.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
The Z Fighters can lower their power levels at will and usually stay at a very low level outside of battles. That was a major plot point ever since the Saiyan Saga when Nappa and Vegeta (who didn't know how to do that) noticed it.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
No one had ever seen Freeza's final form before he fought Goku, right? Maybe Beerus overestimated how much power Freeza had been hiding. It's an understandable mistake considering how Freeza boasted about being the strongest in the universe.
Dominican Power
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The animation in this episode was so fucking bad. I've never seen a fight in DB be animated this badly.
Welfare
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Frieza was 120,000,000 at 100%
Base Goku was at 3,000,000 at the same time.
Base Goku can still be weaker at this point in time. That's a pretty big number to get to, and he already has through SSJ multipliers.
Goku's resting power level in base form is very low.
Ivan A Nguyen
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This is true, but the fact remains that he still has a high base power level when he's trying to fight a guy and isn't transformed.
This I could believe. Trunks shows up and slices final form freeza in half with his weak SSJ form so why wouldn't the same form that went toe to toe with cell be enough to turn Freeza into a red mist?
Where are these numbers from?
Resting, sure, but he's training on this planet. At some point he has to exert his power level to get in good training, right?
Welfare
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Daizenshuu 7. Frieza at max was 120,000,000 and SSJ Goku 150,000,000. SSJ is 50x base.
shadowsdarknes
Member
Wouldn't that be 15 million? Not 150
If Goku maxed out at 180k against Ginyu, I don't see why he would be at 3 million after the rejuvenation chamber.
300k would make more sense.
Pankratous
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But Goku puts up a decent fight against final form (non powered up) Frieza.
Frieza says his second form is 1 million. Goku would stomp all over that.
NeonZ
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Daizenshuu numbers. Even if you want to ignore the Daizenshuu though, the information given by the manga pretty much forces something around that point.
Piccolo could match or beat Freeza who had gotten to one million in his 2nd form. Vegeta after a near death power up from Kuririn's attack was stronger than Piccolo (he could keep up with final form Freeza's movements better than Piccolo), so above one million, yet still much weaker than holding back final form Freeza.
Goku arrives and is significantly above Vegeta, being able to match final form Freeza with whatever amount of his power he was using at that point. That places base Goku significantly above one million. However, when Goku starts fighting Freeza with 50% of his power, Kaioken x 10 is useless and even a Kamehameha with Kaioken x 20 can barely damage his hand. When you add up all that, you get very high numbers no matter which specific one you attempt to go with.
Vegeta jumped from around 30k-40k to almost 540k after a single near death power up (and resting, his boost is initially smaller due to lack of rest) and then to above one million with another. The near death power ups at that point of the Freeza Saga could get pretty crazy, which is probably why aside from Cell's Toriyama never used that plot device anymore afterwards.
Polioliolio
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Oh my god I can't stop laughing at this one:
Goku looks like he had to get up early for school.
Goku looks like he had to get up early for school.
What? Goku always tries to hold back his powers whenever possible. Why do you think people complain about the drawn out fights in Z?
Just no. Cancel it and release it when ready. Jesus Christ.
Holy shit, I'm dying... x'D
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
The first three episodes are good, more humor and Slice of Life-ish instead of action. Episode 4's alright but feels a bit filler-y, even though that part was in BoG. Episode 5 is the first dud of the series so far. The animation in the other episodes weren't movie-like quality but they certainly weren't this,
"Ehh, i don't want to fight!"
This one is the best.Oh my god I can't stop laughing at this one:
Goku looks like he had to get up early for school.
It's a perfect "when you see something nasty" picture.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
I feel like you can perfectly Photoshop a feels man on his face.
biosnake20
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The whole episode looked like an old school newgrounds sketch.
Oh my god I can't stop laughing at this one:
Goku looks like he had to get up early for school.
No! Don't upload the images, you only give it more power.
Permanently A
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The first three episodes are good, more humor and Slice of Life-ish instead of action. Episode 4's alright but feels a bit filler-y, even though that part was in BoG. Episode 5 is the first dud of the series so far. The animation in the other episodes weren't movie-like quality but they certainly weren't this,
"bruh, get that shit away from me"
Seasoned Badger
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Well, they gotta create some incentive to buy the Blu-ray!
Holy shit, I'm dying... x'D
OMG! This looks like it had been drawn by a two years old child xD
DiipuSurotu
Banned
I was initially against SSJ3 Vegeta but now I really want him to appear just to see how they draw him.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Hi Cloud from Final Fantasy!
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
I just watched episode 5....
Host Samurai
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Based on Yo Son Goku and Friends Return, base Goten and Trunks can take on Frieza. So I see no reason why base Goku can't stomp a mud hole in him.
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