Polioliolio
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Hm, what about Goku staying in Super Saiyan mode pretty much 24/7 to be prepared for the cell games?
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Hm, what about Goku staying in Super Saiyan mode pretty much 24/7 to be prepared for the cell games?
That was specifically for getting used to the form's strain, so they'd be at peak performance during the fight itself.
Welfare
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He and Gohan were trying to make SSJ as natural as possible.
Dagobert Duck
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Only to find out later on, that it isnt natural at all, right? I mean Gohan got that
stupid
)And Goku found out that later SSJ forms just tweak small things but affect other stuff too so basically in BoG and RoF base and SSJ1 form got most time
Stereogatari
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Oh. I haven't watched any of the movies.
Dagobert Duck
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Then dont watch them now, if you are following Super, they will retell the movies anyway, so you might go in fresh and watch the movies afterwards maybe
Boss Doggie
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At least they're reusing old footage for flashbacks.
I'm of the opinion that's a bad thing. It creates significant visual inconsistencies.
I actually agree with this. It's super jarring.
Yep it hurt my eyes
I was kinda okay with the recap of the ending of Z from the beginning of the first episode using old footage.
But they should have totally re-animated the flashback to Vegeta and Trunks training inside the ship. What the hell. I get the feeling this trend will continue, too. Fucking cheap ass Toei.
But they should have totally re-animated the flashback to Vegeta and Trunks training inside the ship. What the hell. I get the feeling this trend will continue, too. Fucking cheap ass Toei.
it was from one of the movies, right? i actually like how they followed up on vegeta's promise. too bad toei don't care about the art style (see: sailor moon)
Kyleripman
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It's not significantly different in style from the rest of his music, it's just a particular tune that I like, I guess.
Seven Force
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...Did you guys seriously expect better from Toei? C'mon son.
After what they did to Sailormoon Crystal? Nope.
Yeah, I found the comparison odd, DB was about Goku adventuring, so far Super feels like a filler ep of DBZ.
The Silver
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These aren't like filler episodes they're like the Great Saiyaman saga, it's establishing what the peace time status quo is and easing back into the cast
Unknown One
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Likewise. I wanted them to master SSJ2 at the very least.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
It'd be more appropriate to say "I hate it because it's boring" than to call it filler
NeonZ
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The "Great Saiyama Saga" were about two manga chapters extended into an actual arc by adding a many minor events to stretch things out. So, it was mostly filler.
I guess we can't really say how much is filler since we can't see Toriyama's outline, unlike the manga, but the similarities with previous Toei filler really make it seem like most of these two episodes have been filler.
If that's the case they've done it poorly.
The series is back because the movies have been successful. Kai has just aired. We all remember.
NCR Redslayer
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And people said anime from back then looked good.
Welfare
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Kai looks great.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Certain episodes do
I say this as someone who just rewatched the saiyan stuff from kai. I feel it'll get worse if I keep going
The Silver
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Two chapters, two episodes, sounds fine to me.
Jason's Ultimatum
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is there a legal site to watch it.
EchoChamber
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Everything in this sea called the internet is legal matey argh¡
EchoChamber doesn't promote or condone piracy do it under your own risk
ArtHands
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I dont think you can say Super are fillers. The first chapter or two in both manga and anime shows Goku fighting off nameless dinosaur and fishing giant nameless fish too. dont forget about the rabbit gang as well. Just because there's no intense fighting doesn't mean they are fillers here, especially since Super anime is the source material now.
Welfare
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Before BoG and is rewriting those 2 movies.
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thepotatoman
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And here I thought we finally got some movies that will actually fit inside the DBZ cannon. I guess some things never change.
Eh some Story details change in the anime adaptation, but overall these movies ARE canon.
EDIT: I recommend going on Google and typing in what you're looking for, I'd image you would find what you're looking for.
NeonZ
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Super is including some anime filler characters like Satan's disciples and Gregory, while the movies avoided that. So, arguably, Super might end up not being canon. Remember, it's only following a story outline from Toriyama and using some designs made by him, he doesn't have as much influence in the final product as he had in the recent movies.
I think the outline might be pretty vague too. Compare the scene from episode 1 where Beerus destroys a planet to the counterpart in the promo manga. Both used the same designs for the aliens, but the actual scenario was fairly different aside from Beerus destroying a planet. Both likely were based on Toriyama's outline, but interpreted by different people, and their differences suggest how vague it is. In the manga, they attempt to poison Beerus and he blows up their planet, while in the anime he's just annoyed by their food and destroys half of their planet.
Of course, we only will know for sure when Toriyama works directly on another movie or makes statements about the series, using or not using elements from Super. Still, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see Super's Goku using the Dragon Fist, for example.
You can think the animation for the older shows looks good but believe it shouldn't be used in Super. The visual inconsistency is because the archive footage was done on cells 20 years ago when Toriyama had a bulkier art style. Super is done digitally with characters based on Toriyama's slimmer look. It was like that whenever Toei decided to "redraw" scenes in Kai as well. Smash cutting between the two just feels jarring.
That's debatable ... especially with the way Toei handled The Final Chapter.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Why did they do this. I feel it's the worst thing about Kai
killatopak
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just watched ep 2. It seems that they'll start the movie part at episode 3. I thought it would take longer.
Pop-O-Matic
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Animation/Coloring errors or some shit like that.
Pop-O-Matic
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They're retelling them, not ignoring them, so SSJG and SSJGSSJ are here to stay.
Icyflamez96
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Guess what i'm having for lunch today guys
It's gonna be soo good. It'd be very unfortunate if a cat blew up half of earth before I got a chance to eat it though
It's gonna be soo good. It'd be very unfortunate if a cat blew up half of earth before I got a chance to eat it though
Wasn't it because they wanted to clean up/fix damaged animation cells and tone down some of the flashing because of new Japanese TV standards? Buu Kai also changed the flashing scenes.
That's also why there are slight changes to blood and gore in only two scenes. Japans TV ratings got soft yo.
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