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Dragon Ball Super |OT| 28 Episodes Later

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Yo what was up with the animation drop off from episode 4 to 5?

Kinda carried over to episode 6 as well.

GT had better animation than this man.
 

Breh have you seen Gohan vs. Cell

lmao same shit

Neither GT nor Z gave us this

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The scene has to be from DBZ cause as far as I know Abridged doesnt "animate" stuff themselves....
Actually they do very often you just don't notice it because it's subtle most of the time.

Yes they made that clone baby thing, it ain't in the show.

They have making of videos, check them out.
 
Do we really have to go over this shit every couple pages?

I'm not gonna post anymore about this topic after this, but I found the clip where the pic you posted is from https://youtu.be/G3qThJ_9090?t=27m5s and I also have the clip of the fight from Super https://youtu.be/fRCHcIKf1k8?t=21s

There is no way you can tell me with a straight face that Z isn't more consistent with its art style and quality than Super is. Even with that frame picture you took it looks much better in action than Episode 5 did at all. That's all I have to say. Of course its only been one fight and its early on, but if we have to compare it to a show from the 90s well then go ahead. I was pointing out that it should be leagues above Z and GT but it isn't.
 
I'm not gonna post anymore after this, but I found the clip where the pic you posted is from https://youtu.be/G3qThJ_9090?t=27m5s and I also have the clip of the fight from Super https://youtu.be/fRCHcIKf1k8?t=21s

There is no way you can tell me with a straight face that Z isn't more consistent with its art style and quality than Super is. Even with that frame picture you took it looks much better in action than Episode 5 did at all. That's all I have to say. Of course its only been one fight and its early on, but if we have to compare it to a show from the 90s well then go ahead. I was pointing out that it should be leagues above Z and GT but it isn't.

We had 6 episodes, 1 with bad animation and you want to talk about consistency? Please, follow your advice and stop posting.
 
Let's have more power level theory crafting and less frame-by-frame animation critique, shall we?

DBZ power level theory-crafting takes me back to 10th grade algebra II class, where our corner of the room basically spent most days doing the same thing. We even had a classic anime nerd who had a full collection of those button down DBZ character shirts.

The only time I actually got sent to the principal was along with a couple of those kids when we got into an argument over who would win between broly and janemba.

Overall, I am enjoying the show so far. I liked the movie a lot as well and animation failings aside, I am liking this take a lot more. A lot of the changes make more sense and fit the tv format better anyway, especially for a show like DBZ.
 
Let's have more power level theory crafting and less frame-by-frame animation critique, shall we?

DBZ power level theory-crafting takes me back to 10th grade algebra II class, where our corner of the room basically spent most days doing the same thing. We even had a classic anime nerd who had a full collection of those button down DBZ character shirts.

The only time I actually got sent to the principal was along with a couple of those kids when we got into an argument over who would win between broly and janemba.

Overall, I am enjoying the show so far. I liked the movie a lot as well and animation failings aside, I am liking this take a lot more. A lot of the changes make more sense and fit the tv format better anyway, especially for a show like DBZ.

Janemba would sodomize brolly bro.
 
Let's have more power level theory crafting and less frame-by-frame animation critique, shall we?

DBZ power level theory-crafting takes me back to 10th grade algebra II class, where our corner of the room basically spent most days doing the same thing. We even had a classic anime nerd who had a full collection of those button down DBZ character shirts.

The only time I actually got sent to the principal was along with a couple of those kids when we got into an argument over who would win between broly and janemba.

Overall, I am enjoying the show so far. I liked the movie a lot as well and animation failings aside, I am liking this take a lot more. A lot of the changes make more sense and fit the tv format better anyway, especially for a show like DBZ.
It took a SSJ Gogeta to take Janemba down, why even argue bro?
 
Any hope that Future Trunks, Time Travel or the Time Patrollers will show up?



I think it would be interesting to see what happened to Future Trunks after the Cell Saga. Dragon Ball Xenoverse made it seem like he would never live a normal life(went straight from returning to a timeline full of earthlings who were killed, to killing the androids and cell, to being recruited as a time patroller stuck having to watch over the threads of time for as long as he lives, I would assume as punishment for messing with time in the first place).
 
Brolys power level was always hard to gauge. He never really actually gets hurt until the last second when the movie has to end.

He dominates his fights with ease only until the writers say, "shit we made this guy too strong and no we have to find a way to end this movie"
 
Brolys power level was always hard to gauge. He never really actually gets hurt until the last second when the movie has to end.

He dominates his fights with ease only until the writers say, "shit we made this guy too strong and no we have to find a way to end this movie"

I enjoy the first Broly movie but man I wish it ended better. The moment Goku catches his fist and does the "it's fucking go time" power surge thing I was expecting one really good final slugfest on a dying planet, instead we get one silly slow motion punch.
 
Broly lost because of a plot device. That's a big problem when a villain needs to die in a movie that's just happens to be too powerful. His defeat is an ass pull.

If he were to be scaled to the series I'd have him at around Fat Majin Buus level. Stronger than a SSJ 2 but weaker than a SSJ 3.
 
Broly lost because of a plot device. That's a big problem when a villain needs to die in a movie that's just happens to be too powerful. His defeat is an ass pull.

If he were to be scaled to the series I'd have him at around Fat Majin Buus level. Stronger than a SSJ 2 but weaker than a SSJ 3.
Yeah I'm going to assume Gohan went SSJ2 against Broly in movie 10. No reason not to fight at full power and we saw him go SSJ2 at the world martial arts tournament.

He wrecked Gohan without trying. I can't imagine Majin Vegeta or Goku doing much better without a SSJ3 being involved.
 
Yo what was up with the animation drop off from episode 4 to 5?

Kinda carried over to episode 6 as well.

GT had better animation than this man.

It's probably due to the fact that with these episodes they're covering an arc that we already saw in BoG. It's a 100 episodes series, a few drops in quality are expected and i think it's a good idea to cut the budget from "old" stuff. I see why some people would complain about this, but it's being blown a bit out of proportion imho. DBZ had low budget episodes as well, and tons of them.
 
Yeah I'm going to assume Gohan went SSJ2 against Broly in movie 10. No reason not to fight at full power and we saw him go SSJ2 at the world martial arts tournament.

That was after Videl was wounded though. He doesn't seem to go SSJ2 against Dabura afterwards (although this is debatable too). Also, Gohan in the 2nd Broly movie has his design from the pre-Budokai training arc, where he only was using SSJ1.
 
Gohan no doubt goes SSJ 2 in both Broly and Dabura fights. His hair looks more spiked and let's not forget he can go SSJ 2 on the fly.

Dabura is probably as strong as Gohan was when he fought Cell.
 
My long standing fan theory about Brolly is that he's about ssj2 in terms of brute strength but his legendary ssj form gives him an extremely durable shield. We see him use it offensively in the first film and in the lava in the second. That's why his two defeats depended on him getting caught off guard.
 
That was after Videl was wounded though. He doesn't seem to go SSJ2 against Dabura afterwards (although this is debatable too). Also, Gohan in the 2nd Broly movie has his design from the pre-Budokai training arc, where he only was using SSJ1.
I can't imagine Gohan holding back against Dabura. Vegeta and Goku were totally unimpressed with Gohans strength. And even Gohan admitted he was disappointed in his abilities. If he was holding back, I think we would have known.
 
Any hope that Future Trunks, Time Travel or the Time Patrollers will show up?




I think it would be interesting to see what happened to Future Trunks after the Cell Saga. Dragon Ball Xenoverse made it seem like he would never live a normal life(went straight from returning to a timeline full of earthlings who were killed, to killing the androids and cell, to being recruited as a time patroller stuck having to watch over the threads of time for as long as he lives, I would assume as punishment for messing with time in the first place).

Buu and Beerus would still be things in his world I would assume. Without Goku and Gohan around he would be more screwed than ever.
 
Gohan no doubt goes SSJ 2 in both Broly and Dabura fights. His hair looks more spiked and let's not forget he can go SSJ 2 on the fly.

Dabura is probably as strong as Gohan was when he fought Cell.
I can't remember if he had the electricity in the manga in that fight. The animators were notoriously lazy and often omitted that defining characteristic despite it being present in the manga.
 
I always thought that Broly's power is infinite in the sense that while the saiyan need to get hurt to become more powerful, he is mentally sick and always "hurt", the more he is angered and has reasons to fight the more powerful he becomes . Broly from movie 1 was nowhere as powerful as a ssj2 but than he reapers and defeats Gohan with easy. If he was still around he might have been at ssj3 level or even more
 
I always thought that Broly's power is infinite in the sense that while the saiyan need to get hurt to become more powerful, he is mentally sick and always "hurt", the more he is angered and has reasons to fight the more powerful he becomes . Broly from movie 1 was nowhere as powerful as a ssj2 but than he reapers and defeats Gohan with easy. If he was still around he might have been at ssj3 level or even more

Broly in movie 8 comes off as a much bigger threat than Cell/SPC.

Even Cell in his SPC got eradicated by a 1/2 dead SSJ2 Gohan which makes it obvious that if Gohan never blocked that blast to protect Vegeta, he would have curb stomped Cell. Cells Super Perfect zenki is greatly overstated.

I'd say that SSJ2 Buu Saga Gohan would still beat SP Cells ass.
 
Any hope that Future Trunks, Time Travel or the Time Patrollers will show up?




I think it would be interesting to see what happened to Future Trunks after the Cell Saga. Dragon Ball Xenoverse made it seem like he would never live a normal life(went straight from returning to a timeline full of earthlings who were killed, to killing the androids and cell, to being recruited as a time patroller stuck having to watch over the threads of time for as long as he lives, I would assume as punishment for messing with time in the first place).

The Time Patroller stuff was made up for video games and has no bearing on the anime. I would not hold my breath for any of Online or Xenoverse's stuff showing up in DBS, it's its own thing.
 
Gohan no doubt goes SSJ 2 in both Broly and Dabura fights. His hair looks more spiked and let's not forget he can go SSJ 2 on the fly.

Dabura is probably as strong as Gohan was when he fought Cell.

I can't imagine Gohan holding back against Dabura. Vegeta and Goku were totally unimpressed with Gohans strength. And even Gohan admitted he was disappointed in his abilities. If he was holding back, I think we would have known.

You're assuming that Gohan could still turn SSJ2 at will even after not training for 7 years. If he couldn't do it at will, the inconsistency regarding his form's design (especially in the manga, where Gohan vs Dabura would be the only case of a SSJ2 without sparks) suddenly makes a lot of sense.
 
You're assuming that Gohan could still turn SSJ2 at will even after not training for 7 years. If he couldn't do it at will, the inconsistency regarding his form's design (especially in the manga, where Gohan vs Dabura would be the only case of a SSJ2 without sparks) suddenly makes a lot of sense.

He had just done it hours before at the tournament.
 
Gohan turned SSJ 2 at will durin the world tourney when Kioshin told him to power up.

Even in the manga though, that was a long drawn out sequence, including a weird effect (his eyes changing color but not his hair for a while) which isn't used afterwards (aside from during the Ultimate form ritual). I wouldn't call it "at will" if he needs that kind of build up to transform into a SSJ2.

His later SSJ transformations both lack that build up and the sparks, while Goku's and Vegeta's never need that build up nor miss the sparks - and it's not like it only happens against Dabura. When Gohan attempts to destroy Buu's cocoon, which happens right alongside Majin Vegeta vs Goku, he once again has no sparks, right alongside Vegeta having them, so it's not like "Toriyama forgot" works here.
 
The Time Patroller stuff was made up for video games and has no bearing on the anime. I would not hold my breath for any of Online or Xenoverse's stuff showing up in DBS, it's its own thing.

There was a rumor(trying to find it, it was in a Japanese magazine article) about the Supreme Kai of time from Xenoverse being in the Super series. If that holds true then we might hopefully catch a glimpse of Future Trunks.

I'd just like to see the whole time patroller angle explored and maybe a few episodes where Future Trunks helps the gang like old times. I was always a fan of how serious he took situations and consequences compared to everyone else, especially compared to the younger version of him in the main timeline.

Buu and Beerus would still be things in his world I would assume. Without Goku and Gohan around he would be more screwed than ever.

Neither entity would appear. Buu required tons of energy to awaken, which only trunks would have and he would have no reason to power up to such lengths. Beerus was mainly interested in a Super Saiyan God. When he finally realized what he was after, trunks was a kid and in future trunks' timeline all Z-fighters were dead, so him and Gohan went into hiding for a while. Beerus would probably witness the androids wrecking earth and move on.
 
Just think. They could do a Time Patroller angle where a demon goes back and imbues Yamcha with the dark power it gave everyone else in those games.
 
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