DiipuSurotu
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I meant the Majin spell permanently powered him up.
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I meant the Majin spell permanently powered him up.
I believe that to be the case.
NeonZ
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Bigger muscles wasn't part of that, and spikier hair was very inconsistent. Gohan had spikier hair against Cell, obviously, but during the tournament in the Buu Saga his hair style in both forms was identical. Vegeta's was identical too (don't compare with Vegeta's SSJ hair style from the training arc, compare Majin Vegeta's hair style before and after going SSJ2). Goku seemed to be the only one in the Buu Saga that consistently had spikier hair and less bangs after going SSJ2.
Wait I dont get it, was this supposed to be Vegeta's initial ssj2 transformation? That makes no sense if this is a continuation of the manga considering Vegeta willingly went from SSJ1 to SSJ2 after receiving Babadi's magic, from just that alone its heavily implied he already had the transformation.
They're both the same SSJ1; the difference is that Goku himself is stronger. It's not like there are caps to each transformation. Every SSJ is just a power multiplier for the form that preceded it.
Just a more powerful version of SS2, I suppose.
Sounds like you are reiterating what I said, more or less.
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Rodin
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I've enjoyed every single episode so far, but this one was the best by far. Strong Dragon Ball Z vibes throughout the whole thing, and the next episode should be even better. Actually the anime in general should be on another level because shit is getting real now, and after the fight there will be brand new, post-BoG stuff. Super hyped right now.
I want Gohan to be badass again.
Nah, that's fine. I feel like they should change how you become a SSJG in the first place, because it was just stupid in the movie.
I want Gohan to be badass again.
Nah, that's fine. I feel like they should change how you become a SSJG in the first place, because it was just stupid in the movie.
NeonZ
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I think there's going to be some change regarding Super Saiyan God's ritual, although it could be as underwhelming as needing less Saiyans. They skipped the scene that would reveal that Videl is pregnant, and have refused to set a date to Super, only saying that it takes place "sometime after" the 6 months post-Buu. So, I'm pretty sure they're going to avoid altogether the whole bit about fetus Pan being part of the ritual.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Maybe he is? I can't picture him with that hairstyle or being without eyebrows though lol.
I was under the impression he had to stay evil to retain the bulk of that?
I mean, he could have gained some sort of that power after killing himself with the explosion, like a lesser version of Goku retaining the God powers in BoG after phasing out of the transformation state, but yeah, would not expect him to renege on Majin and still benefit from all of the Majin power.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
Yeah, it looks like Vegeta has managed to increase the power of SSJ2, sort of like when he "ascended" past SSJ1 in the androids saga.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
The only real bullshit is Goku saying "you became stronger than me" for that segment. If he just STFU then theres no problem
That's certainly possible. I was just pointing out that he did in fact become SSJ2 after he lost the Majin spell. I doubt he didn't manage to achieve it in those seven years though. He was never that far behind Goku.
What we saw at the end of episode 7 is probably Vegeta's highest level, yet he didn't reach SSJ3.
Unknown One
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That's more of a problem with both their hairstyle. The reason why Gohan as a kid looked different is probably because Toriyama wanted him to look unique. His SSJ1 form's hair hardly looked different from his normal state for that reason.
I bet Trunks would look different since his hair is pretty dynamic.
Wrong, he said kamehameha after that, and thats what he also meant with the one word that comes to mind.
Icyflamez96
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lol
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Vegeta sucks
I rewatched it 3 times to get it, you can barely hear him say ''Kamehame'', only the HAAA part. Extremely poorly handled.
DragonSworne
Banned
I stand corrected. It looks like Vegeta did go SSJ2 without Majin. I don't believe he did it during the 7 year skip though. Otherwise Buu Saga doesn't make any sense lol and would have been completely avoidable.
If only this was filler Yamucha, the hero the series needs😢
Yeah. The old anime team definitely did its best to try and make Yamcha look better by having filler where he defeats Recoome and a couple of Outer-world guys, but now they have to stick to his actual place in the Dragon Ball world.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Just watched ep7, this show is fucking horrible. Terrible art, terrible production, underwhelming nonsensical story and terrible attention to detail like 18 having a hard time breathing? Hello? She has an infinite power supply!, or people asking Krillin to fight after 5 people stronger than him have gotten their asses kicked.
This should get cancelled ASAP.
This should get cancelled ASAP.
Are you sure you weren't watching OG DBZ?
I wanted to take this post seriously but lol I just can't. 😅😅
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Im re-reading the manga and its one of the best of all time. Fantastic choreography, very strong art, stories that had a sense of urgency to them, even characters that had motivations other than "I want pudding"
Well if you think its a good show then congrats on having ridiculously low standards.
Right. Everyone who likes the show is wrong, not the one wanting the show cancelled for petty reasons lol
I hope you see where this is going.
Well of course. You won't see filler, animation errors, and the what not from a manga.
Seriously, DBZ was filled with terrible animation, nonsensical plots and all the rest, too. nothing has changed.
Nintendoga
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But it makes sense for one of the strongest fighters to save his energy and protect everyone in case something happens
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Petty reasons? bad art, bad story and inconsistent quality (ranging from "makimg memes its so embarrassing" to "barely acceptable") are really, really big red flags for any show to have. The only thing keeping this mess afloat is that the Dragon Ball name and cast makes people watch, no matter how bad it is.
The show will not be cancelled, thats for sure, but its so bad that it really should.
Many things have.
The story is not an adaptation of an incredibly popular manga anymore, its of a movie that aside from a high budget fight scene, didnt have much going for it. The source material is not strong, at all.
Overall quality of the original show was much higher overall because the IP was at the height of its popularity, had really strong source material and managed to stay at an abobe industry standard in terms of animation quality, at least through the first 100 episodes (Saiyan and Freeza sagas)
The original anime followed the 90's trend of stretching episodes out so that it would give the manga time to stay ahead of the anime. This caused many of the things fans hate about Dragon Ball today such as the extremely long powering up sequences.
A plot of "A group of Earth warriors travel to Namek to revive their friends, not knowing that the most feared tyrant in the galaxy is also in that planet, eventually causing the destruction of said planet and a transformation into a Super Saiyan" is incredibly more interesting than "during a characters birthday party, the God of Destruction shows up and is intent on destroying Earth because he is bored and/or didnt get any pudding"
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Lol Yamcha is drawn like a Tex Avery character here.
Don't know what version you watched, but I can clearly hear it being said in the english dub.
Having a manga to work off of has nothing to do with that. And Dragon Ball is still incredibly popular. The numerous games, and highly successful limited release of a DRAGON BALL MOVIE in theaters are evidence of that. The train never stopped.
Sounds like the Frieza Saga if you replace pudding with Dragon Balls. Sounds like the Buu Saga. He was a giant pink baby.
Jex
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Not to disagree with any of your opinions but, factually speaking, that 'stretching' isn't a 90's trend. It's been part of anime since the late 60's.
Not that this invalidates your points.
Pankratous
Member
Fantastic episode.
I wonder how many seconds Vegeta will last in the next episode.
I wonder how many seconds Vegeta will last in the next episode.
DragonSworne
Banned
Hopefully longer than he does with Bulma.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Sorry, youre not gonna get me with random screencaps. You can make fun of most anime that way
-screengrabs are not animations, those are just random inbetweens
-animation is how the frames flow from each other, whether they keyframe drawings are good (guess what, none of your examples are keyframes
-DBSuper has bad animation everywhere. Bad keyframes, bad inbetweens, bad detail, bad consistency, bad choreography
-DBZ late in the Cell saga and Buu saga had consistency problems (good animation team one eps vs budget animation team the next) but the level of detail was higher and the choreography was much, much better.
-Zooming into a background shot with many characters proves very little of anything
-I specifically said first 100 episodes, your examples have like, nothing from the first 100
Sure thing. I just wanted to point that it has changed since (with Naruto and Bleach it became fillers, and now they just stop the show)
Ultra Numb
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Enraged SSJ2 Vegeta confirmed more powerful than Mystic Gohan
I wonder how next episode will differ from the movie, will he a get a few shots in?
I wonder how next episode will differ from the movie, will he a get a few shots in?
Represent.
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It's a kids show. And kids don't give a fuck about animation, so neither does Toei.
TheRealTalker
Banned
lol at Gohan getting the most pathetic way to get defeated out of the bunch
"Strongest in the universe" my ass
"Strongest in the universe" my ass
Okay finally saw it. Only two things I wanna talk about:
- Why can Dende sense God ki? Is it cause he's a "god" too technically? And how do they differentiate between the Gods that Beerus and the Supremere Kai are and the lame ass "gods" that Dende and Kami were (since they both use the word "kami" it seems).
- I liked the way they had Vegeta react and power up to Beerus slapping Bulma. Was done waaaaay better than the stupid way they handled it in the movie. While it still makes no fucking sense that SSJ2 Vegeta would be stronger than SSJ3 Goku without transforming into SSJ3, at least the build up gave more of an impression that Beerus done fucked up.
- Why can Dende sense God ki? Is it cause he's a "god" too technically? And how do they differentiate between the Gods that Beerus and the Supremere Kai are and the lame ass "gods" that Dende and Kami were (since they both use the word "kami" it seems).
- I liked the way they had Vegeta react and power up to Beerus slapping Bulma. Was done waaaaay better than the stupid way they handled it in the movie. While it still makes no fucking sense that SSJ2 Vegeta would be stronger than SSJ3 Goku without transforming into SSJ3, at least the build up gave more of an impression that Beerus done fucked up.
People really thing that vegeta couldn't turn SSJ2 before the majin power up?
It's heavily implied.
Basically -
SSJ3 Goku (Buu Saga) > SSJ2 Goku (Buu Saga) = SSJ2 Vegeta Buu Saga post majin-power up > SSJ2 Vegeta Buu Saga pre-majin power up (Unseen) > SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Saga) > SSJ2 Gohan (Buu Saga)
It's heavily implied.
Basically -
SSJ3 Goku (Buu Saga) > SSJ2 Goku (Buu Saga) = SSJ2 Vegeta Buu Saga post majin-power up > SSJ2 Vegeta Buu Saga pre-majin power up (Unseen) > SSJ2 Gohan (Cell Saga) > SSJ2 Gohan (Buu Saga)
Thanks! And yes, I agree. Vegeta should've got a Goku - Frieza Super Saiyan moment there or at least should once in the entire series. Feels like he's going to be 2nd place all life long.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Ugh, trash translation. He says that he's a contender for best martial artist "here" and says that it's no wonder Beerus would be nervous. He says nothing about Beerus possibly being strong.
Sorry, it just bothers me how many of the fan subs are terribad.
It's expanding on BoG, adding some stuff and changing some stuff and BoG and F are only the first two story arcs, after that it's going to be completely original. Besides, I prefer the way the story is playing out in Super compared to BoG, for instance Beerus is way more menacing.
ArchedThunder
Banned
We would go episodes at a time without jack shit happening in Z. This episode was the slowest of Super so far though, but at least it gets the scuffle that Beerus has with the extended cast out of the way and shows Vegeta's rage boost. The next couple of episodes look to be eventful.
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