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Dragon Quest Heroes II Is Downgraded On Nintendo Switch Compared To PS4 Version
- Thread starter Poetic.Injustice
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Green Yoshi
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Cell is a beast. ;-)
I know this thread is primarily about the graphics of the game, but I wanted to chime in now that I've played the game. I think the looks great and I have a good feeling about Dragon Quest XI on the system. Looks great. Has some frame issues, but they don't bother me as much as I thought they would. But outside of that, the game is fun as hell. Can't wait for this game to come out in English in the West. I have no problems with the NS version of the game. Would be nice if it comes out at the same time as the PS4 version later this year.
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Deleted member 17706
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I'm honestly impressed with the results they're achieving considering it's a launch title that likely had a very tight development schedule. Then again, I primarily view the Switch as a portable system, so maybe my expectations are a bit lower than they should be.
Digital Foundry
Switch vs PS4! Dragon Quest Heroes 2 Graphics Comparison + Frame-Rate Test
Switch framerate is atrocious.
Switch vs PS4! Dragon Quest Heroes 2 Graphics Comparison + Frame-Rate Test
Switch framerate is atrocious.
LordOcidax
Member
OP... Are you saying that a handheld have less power than the PS4? Are you sure about that?
Very disappointing. Appears to me like it's just not optomized well for the hardware? How on earth does it run that much worse in handheld mode when it drops the resolution to 720p?
That framerate looks game-breaking...
Gotdatmoney
Member
Bad port. Either that or the assets and effects they are using need the extra hardware power.
How does the game run on the PS3?
dragonflys545
Member
I feel like this will be the results for every game getting port over from the ps4...
Just like every PS4 game should be compared to the rushed ports it had at launch, amirite ?
Please, guys.
Bitch Pudding
Member
This is not what this comparison is about. We are all aware about the power gap. But those tests show how that lack of power actually manifests in actual games. Which is interesting, especially if you own both systems.
InfiniteCombo
Banned
Exactly. Pretty much this.
Also, I love the concept of a hybrid, in that it lets fans argue that it's a "handheld" when convenient... But also argue that it's s console (i.e., the word Nintendo kept using during the January reveal) at other convenient times. LOL...
franklyshankly
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People thought Switch would perform on par with PS4?
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I don't get this comment. Switch was targeting half the framerate of the PS4 and lower settings. It still didn't manage that.
That is an insane far cry from people expecting "on par" with PS4.
Kingpin Rogers
Member
As long as this isn't indicative of the actual possible performance from the Switch then I don't really care. Shame that more effort wasn't put in though.
People thought Switch would perform on par with PS4?
Huh, no?
BorndatascalP
Neo Member
The Nintendo Switch will have to rely very hard on its main stream exclusives. The Switch will probably get asshanded every time a multiconsole game releases. Also, the battle gameplay from DQH2 on the Switch looks absolutely unplayable.
YuriLowell
Member
People thought Switch would perform on par with PS4?
No one thought it was going to be on par with the ps4.
I feel like you don't realize how old this thread. And even then, maybe you're making stuff up? Nobody thinks that.
Realistically? People wanted to see just how close it could have gotten. And frankly, I think this level at a solid 30 would have been amazing.
Instead it looks like we need a few more cuts or just more optimization before it can be satisfactory.
EDIT: Though it seems the Musou engine has always had these sorts of issues with performance, and I'm inclined to think it has a lot to do with HOW they decide to use it.
reelbigtink
Member
People thought Switch would perform on par with PS4?
Wow, this might be the most insufferable post + gif combo I've seen on gaf. Giddy about being "right" about a thing no one even thought was a possibility?
dead souls
Member
Probably. Doesn't matter to me, since even after I eventually buy a Switch any PS4/Switch title that is released I'll purchase the PS4 version.
It's situational to me. Granted for DQH it's easy to go PS4 in my eyes (though it really is pretty nice at 30 FPS, shame it can't hold that) but for something like Disgaea it's likely it can hold the same fidelity or nearly the same, and the series has shined most on handhelds for me... and I can treat that as a console game as desired here.
But it is likely that most things that are technically demanding enough I'd rather go PS4/PC with.
Just came back from work and watched the DF video.
You know, when I saw the docked part I was like, wow, it drops at 20fps...
Then you get portable mode which is absolute shit. :lol
This compilation was a damn good concept, too bad there wasn't enough dev time allowed for it. Hopefully if it comes out in the west, a more recent cartridge could have an eventual update, if they EVER do it...I hope so.
You know, when I saw the docked part I was like, wow, it drops at 20fps...
Then you get portable mode which is absolute shit. :lol
This compilation was a damn good concept, too bad there wasn't enough dev time allowed for it. Hopefully if it comes out in the west, a more recent cartridge could have an eventual update, if they EVER do it...I hope so.
since they are taking the demo as a reference... are there any comparisons with the actual release? Apparently there have been some reports claiming that the demo runs worse so I'd like to find out if that's true or not. Does anyone on gaf own the game?
butman
Member
So you will buy the PS4 version of DQ XI ignoring the handheld capabilities. Right?
People thought Switch would perform on par with PS4?
Lol if this was the post he got banned for
forknknife
Banned
Just played the demo and i really don't get what makes these games fun. Isn't it just basically running around and mahjong buttons killing whatever hoards of enemies you find? It's all way to mindless.
smashballTaz
Member
You can get the Switch demo of this from the Japanese eshop store if you want to check it out. It's not bad but the framerate does suffer a lot.
Jonneh3003
Banned
I haven't played Dragon Quest Hereoes but that isn't what the games are about, Hyrule Warriors for instance is a tower defense game, you can ignore the vast majority of field enemies.
dead souls
Member
Definitely. 99.9% of my portable gaming is done at home, so if the Switch is just going to get inferior versions of games that are also on PS4 from third parties it will be a first party Nintendo game player to me when I eventually pick one up.
And that's basically why this version exists (same with the Vita version).
DigitalScrap
Member
I downloaded the demo earlier today on the Switch, and the frame rate is horrible. Like, it's even worse than I thought looking at videos. Even with nothing going on, the frame rate when you do an attack (no enemies around mind you) is amazingly terrible.
Oddly though, when you look around, the frame rate is amazingly smooth, and almost seems TOO fast.
This is a horrible port. I was hoping maybe it would be fixed, but since they are selling it like this (on the JP store), I doubt it.
We'll see if it is fixed when (if) it is brought over to the West, but as it stands now, it is a very easy pass.
Oddly though, when you look around, the frame rate is amazingly smooth, and almost seems TOO fast.
This is a horrible port. I was hoping maybe it would be fixed, but since they are selling it like this (on the JP store), I doubt it.
We'll see if it is fixed when (if) it is brought over to the West, but as it stands now, it is a very easy pass.
Takeda Kenshi
blew Staal
Apparently there's been an update for this, can't find any patch notes though. Anyone have an idea what (if any) major changes there were?
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Maybe not about this specifically, but some people were convinced the Switch had secret sauce.
The Last One
Member
I played the demo and the game looks really ugly and the framerate is horrible. The only reaso to get this on Switch is if you really want a portable (flawed) experience. If that's not what you're looking for just get it for PS4 or PC.
Mysterious Stranger
Member
The game has a lot of monsters which eat up framerate. You should get it on ps4 pro or pc.
The likelihood of a KT launch port pushing the system to its limits is rather low...they had a deadline to meet and delivered the best they could. Secret sauce has nothing to do with it.
lyrick
Member
Why would I want to play a game like this anchored to a Television or Monitor?
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Sure, but don't expect a comparable fidelity in all aspects as PS4, ever. It cannot perform on par for a complex 3D game. Launch has nothing to do with that simple fact.
stargateheaven
Member
i dont like that phrase, it doesnt make sense.
but yeah, this is expected.. i dont see the problem here. as long as it runs good in the end.
Sure, but that doesn't mean that anyone should expect this port of being indicative of anything. Game performs like trash everywhere, even on more powerful and already familiar hardware. This is a new platform.
Nah. It looks remarkably good all things considered, but you can clearly see that lighting and shaders have been toned down a bit. Draw distance should be different as well iirc.
So no-one knows what's in the patch then?
Not at all, could have been much better optimised though. Hell, even KTs first PC efforts were rough as all hell.
Not at all, could have been much better optimised though. Hell, even KTs first PC efforts were rough as all hell.
Kremzeek
Member
so now being "anchored" to an HD display is a negative?
what do you mean "a game like this"?
i played the previous DQ Heroes game and thought it was crazy fun, and it was so cool to finally see DQ graphics large in HD.
No one expects Switch to handle 1:1 what devs can offer on PS4 - the PS4 is much more powerful, so thats a given and not worth a discussion at this point.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Wrong. The performance is decent on a vanilla PS4, and that's without the Pro's boost mode.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-dragon-quest-heroes-2-switch-vs-ps4-comparison
The game wasn't a rushed launch port on the PS4 and the poster wasn't explicitly referring to that game. He seems to be saying games with bad performance can be released on more powerful hardware. Ex: Some Unity games on PS4 perform bad despite not doing anything that would stress the hardware.