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[OrlanisWorks]

It's everyone who will make her being a pornstar a big deal. It's essentially their fault for having conservative, silly views that doing porn means that person is poison and should be ashamed.

I respect and approve her decision.

 

[Kano on the Phone]

In what way is the sex industry comparable to just sex?

In what way is it not? She's getting paid for doing something totally legal and paying taxes like anyone else.

Why are you putting all sex at an equal level. Not all of it is good. Plenty of people have had bad experiences in the sex industry.

Yes, because we live in a puritanical society where we marginalize people who are too sexual for our tastes and make it easier for these industries to operate under the radar.

 

[truly101]

It's everyone who will make her being a pornstar a big deal. It's essentially their fault for having conservative, silly views that doing porn means that person is poison and should be ashamed.

I respect and approve her decision.

At the same time....if it wasn't a big deal, or scandalous, would it be as lucrative? I think, as far as the US is concerned, porn being taboo is part of its appeal.

 

[Kadayi]

I get it that she needs to make money and exploiting her body is a powerful option, but is doing porn that much more profitable Vs say doing say high end escort work? Either way you end up getting fucked by strangers, but the latter has more opportunity to keep on the low down and therefore much less lightly to impact future career prospects.

It's everyone who will make her being a pornstar a big deal. It's essentially their fault for having conservative, silly views that doing porn means that person is poison and should be ashamed.

I get where you're coming from but truth of the matter is it's just not something that as a concept sits well with a lot of people.

 

[PK_man]

I have no problem with her doing porn to earn money for her tuition. Yeah, somebody found out about it but there was no need for her to further focus the spotlight onto herself. I guess that gagging gig must've paid her really well. Couldn't she have done something less extreme? or maybe it would've been easier to go stripping instead?

 

[Riggs]

Is this the "I have a black friend" of being a misogynist? Sex is nothing to be afraid at or mad at, bro.

Nah it's the I had a family member in porn and watched it first hand fuck everything up kind of post.

Also I love porn which I admit makes me a hypocrite, just being realistic she has zero chances at a successful law firm.

 

[hodayathink]

Facial Abuse site, eh?

Well see, this is the point where I have to say that she's basically choosing to degrade herself and will somewhat justifiably be judged badly because of it. Its not classy, its not 'just sex', its catering to the percentage of the male population that enjoy seeing a woman basically treated like shit as men do with them as they please. There is nothing 'empowering' about this. Quite the opposite.

If a girl did some X-Art stuff or something, I might be more inclined to say, "Ok, this isn't so bad, she's just doing what she's gotta do", but nobody should subject themselves to this low grade filth if they want to go on and have a respectable career.

She has been on X-art too.

 

[SBH]

+1 for porn veteran day.

National Actor's Day seems to exist in somewhere sometimes.

I look at porn as other manual labor jobs combined with acting. She shouldn't face anything because of this, but unfortunately she will. Would be funny if she did make it as a big time lawyer, I hope she finds success.

There is one example in my country where a former porn star is doing ok as a journalist, but it's always remembered, and often mentioned in news about her, that she used to do porn. The stigma stays even if it's unfair.

Your school system where you have to pay to get in a good school is wrong. It may produce the top universities with all that money, but it's fails on other parts.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

I don't know, if she is that smart would she have taken Facial Abuse as her first porno gig? or announce to the world she is doing porn even though this will likely hurt her career in the future?

WTF? She did facial abuse? Why?

 

[Aquamarine]

Nah it's the I had a family member in porn and watched it first hand fuck everything up kind of post.

Also I love porn which I admit makes me a hypocrite, just being realistic she has zero chances at a successful law firm.

The problem is when they have lots of great potential candidates, and they're looking for the small things that will make or break each one.

Then they look at this girl and see her porn history background...so they go with someone else based on that technicality, even if she is brilliant.

 

[Riggs]

The problem is when they have lots of great potential candidates, and they're looking for the small things that will make or break each one.

Then they look at this girl and see her porn history background...so they go with someone else based on that technicality, even if she is brilliant.

exactly I'm not even saying its wrong its just reality

 

[Akira83]

Man that is one very unattractive girl

Would not watch

 

[Ties]

tbh i'd do something less risky to make money but hey whatever works

 

[GungHo]

WTF? She did facial abuse? Why?

Because she was paid?

 

[SquiddyCracker]

There is a porn site called Facial Abuse?

 

[MC Safety]

WTF? She did facial abuse? Why?

She may have issues.

 

[Desty]

Duke porn star? Meh, I'd rather fap to a porn star from UNC

So I guess we see that Duke does indeed suck.

 

[AuthenticM]

I'll support her !

 

[Fenderputty]

More power to her.

 

[Seeds]

In what way is it not? She's getting paid for doing something totally legal and paying taxes like anyone else.

You mean besides the higher rate of abuse, suicides, drug and alcohol addictions associated with the porn industry?

 

[aly]

I get it that she needs to make money and exploiting her body is a powerful option, but is doing porn that much more profitable Vs say doing say high end escort work? Either way you end up getting fucked by strangers, but the latter has more opportunity to keep on the low down and therefore much less lightly to impact future career prospects.

Did she say she was doing both porn and escorting? She would probably make out better if she did.

 

[GungHo]

There is a porn site called Facial Abuse?

It's from the Adult Doorway guys that also gave us The Handjob Site, The Pantyhose Site, Busty Amateur Boobs, Joe The Pervert, Pink Kitty Girls, Latina Abuse, Anal Recruiters, Her First Porn, Huge Rubber Dicks, Lesbians Love Sex, Monster Cock Madness, Ghetto Gaggers,POV Hotel, and more.

 

[Hasphat'sAnts]

Straight from the Financial Aid office:

 

[NastyBook]

There is a porn site called Facial Abuse?

There's a sister site with an even worse name. Same MO, more ethnic.

 

[Popnbake]

Let me put it this way. I am quite sure she underestimated how difficult this would make her life, but the fact is now that she's done it she's stuck with the consequences, and if she wants to have a successful career she's going to have to work very very hard in order to make that a reality. As a result, either she will fail, in which case society will forget about her pretty quickly and no harm will be done to anyone but her, or she will eventually succeed, in which case I think you could argue society will benefit as a whole, because she will have probably created several important precedents.

If you look at it that way, there's really no reason not to be supportive of her at this point in her life; she'll need all the help she can get and personally I hope she does succeed, even if it comes at an unfairly high price.

If she wanted to work very hard towards having a chance at a successful career then she wouldn't have done porn. She had a much better alternative of putting that same dedication towards paying off student loans which a few of my friends who graduated are now going through.

 

[Glass Rebel]

Stupid. Should have sued her parents.

 

[IISANDERII]

Christian values criticizing the culmination of the ever broadening fend-for-yourself society. Funny.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

If she wanted to work very hard towards having a chance at a successful career then she wouldn't have done porn. She had a much better alternative of putting that same dedication towards paying off student loans which a few of my friends who graduated are now going through.

She made her decision and she'll have to deal with the consequences, one way or another. What do you care if she chose a different path than your friends?

How does her decision affect you at all?

 

[hodayathink]

Funniest statement so far is the person that said it would be more understandable if she had done X-art than Facial Abuse (especially since she's done both, and those two sites have a much higher crossover of talent than you might think). First of all, in porn a paycheck is a paycheck, and as long as they don't do anything to you that you can't physically handle, most girls are willing to shoot for most companies, no matter how degrading.

Second, it's role-playing, the people that shoot the stuff don't actually hate the women, and the women on the site aren't as helpless as they appear. There are many women in the real world who are fans of rough sex (hell, look at the sex stories thread for some examples), and just because a woman actually commits it to film doesn't mean there's something inherently wrong with her (well, no more inherently wrong with her than anyone else that has sex on camera).

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Ehh just saw a YouTube trailer of her Facial Abuse gig (She used the name 'Missy' there for all you researchers) and the intro she says shes a Woman's studies major and wants to be a lawyer. Feels bad man.

 

[Kadayi]

Did she say she was doing both porn and escorting? She would probably make out better if she did.

Not as far as I'm aware. I'm simply proffering escort work as an alternative. It's possible to make a lot of money doing that, and it's less prone to come back and haunt you because generally the clientèle involved want to keep things discreet.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...graphic_n_4901937.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

It's a lot easier to spin 'Oh I went on a few dates with this older guy' during college vs that webclip of you deep throating six guys in succession is all.

 

[jaxword]

There is a porn site called Facial Abuse?

No. And there's also no such thing as porn where people whip, beat, cut, piss, crap, or vomit. These things do not exist.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Funniest statement so far is the person that said it would be more understandable if she had done X-art than Facial Abuse (especially since she's done both, and those two sites have a much higher crossover of talent than you might think). First of all, in porn a paycheck is a paycheck, and as long as they don't do anything to you that you can't physically handle, most girls are willing to shoot for most companies, no matter how degrading.

Second, it's role-playing, the people that shoot the stuff don't actually hate the women, and the women on the site aren't as helpless as they appear. There are many women in the real world who are fans of rough sex (hell, look at the sex stories thread for some examples), and just because a woman actually commits it to film doesn't mean there's something inherently wrong with her (well, no more inherently wrong with her than anyone else that has sex on camera).

Don't expect that much of virgin-GAF will believe that.

 

[Angry Grimace]

It might pay for school but she is probably not going to get hired anywhere now.

Except, you know, at a porno.

 

[Kano on the Phone]

You mean besides the higher rate of abuse, suicides, drug and alcohol addictions associated with the porn industry?

It's almost like you quoted one half of my post and then ignored the other half intentionally to make an incorrect point.

 

[jwluther]

Duke student here. I'm embarassed by how much attention this is receiving - it's clearly all that she really wants anyway.

We have a national scandal pretty much every year. This year is, sadly, no different.

 

[Seeds]

It's almost like you quoted one half of my post and then ignored the other half intentionally to make an incorrect point.

I ignored the other part because it was a responce to another poster...

Besides, your other comment doesn't help your argument that the porn industry is just like sex. If anything, it highlights its differences. I mean, you yourself just said the ''industries operates under the radar''.

 

[truly101]

Duke student here. I'm embarassed by how much attention this is receiving - it's clearly all that she really wants anyway.

We have a national scandal pretty much every year. This year is, sadly, no different.

the more I read about it, the cynic in me thinks that this was her intent. How else can I take this exchange seriously

PLAYBOY: You wrote that one of the main reasons you did porn was to pay for school and not be saddled with large student loans once you graduated. Would you be doing porn if Duke were free?

KNOX: No. If Duke had given me the proper financial resources, I wouldn't have done porn. They have nobody to blame for the scandal but themselves.

From the comments I read on TDD by students and alumni that had to rely on financial aid (and there are way more than you think) they believe she's full of shit. I don't know the FA system well enough to comment, or her situation. If she wants to do porn to pay for school, fine. She shouldn't be kicked out of school for it nor should she be shamed by her fellow students. Going by the interview though, it seems like the shame and blame are being redirected.

 

[hodayathink]

Also, and I might be being cynical, the reason she stopped being anonymous isn't even really because of "female empowerment". It's because porn sites have already been advertising their scenes of her as "the Duke pornstar", and she's going to get a lot of shoots off of that notoriety alone, so officially attaching her stage name to it all makes sense because now everyone looking at the story will know and be able to easily Google her stage name (as opposed to searching for "duke pornstar" and then searching off the name they get there, or just clicking one of the links they get that way [which, truthfully, is more likely to lead to a tube site than a pay site]), and every company is going to want to come up on those search results.

 

[Face it Tiger..]

More power to her.

 

[Kano on the Phone]

I ignored the other part because it was a responce to another poster...

Besides, your other comment doesn't help your argument that the porn industry is just like sex. If anything, it highlights its differences. I mean, you yourself just said the ''industries operate under the radar''.

You're really not understanding what I said. It's under the radar because it's marginalized and because it's treated as "icky" and sex workers are treated like second class citizens. If we stop doing that, then guess what? A lot of those problems you mention will go away.

It is sex, it's people getting paid for sex, so I'm not sure how you're even drawing this line in the first place. It's like arguing that a restaurant isn't the same as food.

 

[Opiate]

More then just the employment record...the problem with this story spreading is that she'll have problems when any potential employer Googles her name.

"Miriam Weeks, huh? Let's see...high honors at Duke, everything checks out...let's just check her Facebook page / whatnot to make sure there isn't anything she's hiding.

Okay...Google...Miriam...Weeks..."

Yes, this is the real reason to not do porn. The moral/religious objections are obviously silly, but the professional ramifications are extended and long term. Unless you make it to the very top of the profession and make millions, you'll end up needing a new job when you're 30 and at that point you've considerably limited your options.

 

[Hasphat'sAnts]

the more I read about it, the cynic in me thinks that this was her intent. How else can I take this exchange seriously



From the comments I read on TDD by students and alumni that had to rely on financial aid (and there are way more than you think) they believe she's full of shit. I don't know the FA system well enough to comment, or her situation. If she wants to do porn to pay for school, fine. She shouldn't be kicked out of school for it nor should she be shamed by her fellow students. Going by the interview though, it seems like the shame and blame are being redirected.

I made a comment about it on the first page. Duke will make every effort to make the school affordable for your family.

Now if your family doesn't want to pay, well, that's something you'll have to figure out with mommy and daddy. Not Duke.

 

[Extra Sauce]

I respect and approve her decision.

That's how every man feels until they have a daughter.

(I don't have a daughter but I'm guessing)

 

[AuthenticM]

Yes, this is the real reason to not do porn. The moral/religious objections are obviously silly, but the professional ramifications are extended and long term. Unless you make it to the very top of the profession and make millions, you'll end up needing a new job when you're 30 and at that point you've considerably limited your options.

Isn't that what's depressing, though ? It shouldn't be like that. It's ridiculous.

God damn puritanical society.

 

[Femmeworth]

Don't expect that much of virgin-GAF will believe that.

The mods don't either, given the title change of that thread.

 

[GungHo]

PLAYBOY: You wrote that one of the main reasons you did porn was to pay for school and not be saddled with large student loans once you graduated. Would you be doing porn if Duke were free?

What the hell kind of question is that? Would you be interviewing porn stars for Playboy if Duke were free?

 

[Popnbake]

She made her decision and she'll have to deal with the consequences, one way or another. What do you care if she chose a different path than your friends?

How does her decision affect you at all?

It doesn't affect me but you're right, I did have some feelings against the support behind her decision due to personal experiences. I'll be hopeful that she can manage to pursue a
successful career after this.

 

[jwluther]

the more I read about it, the cynic in me thinks that this was her intent. How else can I take this exchange seriously



From the comments I read on TDD by students and alumni that had to rely on financial aid (and there are way more than you think) they believe she's full of shit. I don't know the FA system well enough to comment, or her situation. If she wants to do porn to pay for school, fine. She shouldn't be kicked out of school for it nor should she be shamed by her fellow students. Going by the interview though, it seems like the shame and blame are being redirected.

Agreed. She had the option of going to a school that would have given her a better financial aid package. It's totally untrue to say, "the only viable options to pay for college are to take out gigantic student loans, to not go to college at all or to join the sex industry."

Duke gives me a great deal of aid (roughly 80% of my cost of attendance is paid for). I'll also graduate college with only around $6,000 in loans. So, while her situation might be different than mine, I'm not really buying it.

Plus, there's the fact that (I believe) her father is a doctor...

 

[Hasphat'sAnts]

Isn't that what's depressing, though ? It shouldn't be like that. It's ridiculous.

God damn puritanical society.

This is under the assumption that she doesn't change her opinion about what she did years down the line.

I remember when I was a freshmen. I wouldn't trust myself to file my own taxes, nor most of the people I knew back then.

This is decision made by an 18 year old that will have huge ramifications for her emotionally in the years to come. If she has no regrets, good for her. But I'm willing to bet that's pretty unlikely.