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Durante's Dark Souls PC Performance Article Now Available on PC Gamer
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Well, your PC will most certainly perform a whole lot better than PS4.
In most of the areas of the game, yes. In the "special" ones your minimum framerate might dip below 30 with the current state of the game. 2.7 GHz is borderline for those.
I doubt the player base will be larger in a significant way on PS4. For DS2, for which there was public data, online play was actually most active on PC.
Orthogonal
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I played both at launch and my unscientific observation was significantly more activity on PC. I still remember the insanity on day 1 where the Cardinal Tower was littered with hundreds of summon signs strewn across the ground everywhere. Never saw anything like it in the PS3 launch.
Both the passive and active online features seemed more active on PC for whatever reason.
nkarafo
Member
I've seen this "drops frames regardless the system" situation a few times.
GTA4 still can't be brute forced to run at stable 60fps even now, 6 years later.
Sonic Generations PC has a couple of areas in Chemical Plant zone that drop frames in single digits for a couple of seconds. Graphic settings or rig configuration don't matter.
I'm not an expert but i think these things happen not because your rig can't handle them but because the game engine itself cant handle those areas. The actual game engine is the bottleneck.
GTA4 still can't be brute forced to run at stable 60fps even now, 6 years later.
Sonic Generations PC has a couple of areas in Chemical Plant zone that drop frames in single digits for a couple of seconds. Graphic settings or rig configuration don't matter.
I'm not an expert but i think these things happen not because your rig can't handle them but because the game engine itself cant handle those areas. The actual game engine is the bottleneck.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Remember you have to manually set your RGB range on your PS4, the auto setting sometimes doesn't properly communicate with your TV's that do not properly communicate their RGB range properly.
There is actually a limit to the amount of signs and summons on any given server that you're on. There can never be "hundreds" strewn about. Sounds like something was off at that time in regards to the version you're playing.
You would think they would have learned their lesson from Dark Souls 1.
Having played all the playstation and PC versions, it was usually always more active on PC. I guess technically now vanilla DS2 on PS3 might be more active than vanilla on PC, but that would be because almost everyone moved on to SOTFS.
Orthogonal
Member
It's tradition now. Framerate is the true final boss.
Orthogonal
Member
To clarify. It was like there were about 10 or so summon signs in every room you went. They were like graffiti on the floor and everywhere you turned. Not 100 on the screen at a time, but easily thatmany spread throughout the level since they were in every room or hallway you went.
Someone on www.wsgf.org posted a 21:9 screenshot that was pillarboxed to the closest 16:9 resolution.
Picture:
That's very unfortunate. I was hoping that that would not be the case. Thanks for the heads up man!
jacksepticeye
Member
Game runs smoothly most times but good God some areas run like total dogshit! Two areas in particular were
and
the former more so, felt like blight town again at times.
Im running it on a titan x and i7 4770k for reference. 90% of the time though it ran fine
Farron Keep
Dragon Barracks
Im running it on a titan x and i7 4770k for reference. 90% of the time though it ran fine
Obliterator
Member
Brilliant job on the article Durante. Thats one hell of a breakdown and analysis. Bravo good sir
FF Seraphim
Member
God damn... glad I bought it on PC...
For reference, what is total dogshit to you? Are we talking about relative to most of the game or is it actually comparable to console Blighttown even with your rig?
If it's the latter, really not looking forward to those areas >_<
jacksepticeye
Member
Might have been an exaggeration coupled with forgetting JUST how bad that area was on console haha.
In regards to the first spoiler,Im talking sub 20 fps at times and making it really hard to time dodges and attacks and camera pans chugging along. It's an inmediate, noticeable drop in frames as soon as you enter the area.
Second spoiler tag, not so much. Noticeably un-smooth but not unplayable.
It's just jarring because the rest of the game runs pretty smooth and then tanks.
Someone on www.wsgf.org posted a 21:9 screenshot that was pillarboxed to the closest 16:9 resolution.
Picture:
Ugh dammit! Looks awesome though.
xplicitone
Member
Thank you for everything that you do!!!
zyxwvu4321
Member
Exactly what I have. Both overclocked + gsync. Super hyped for Tuesday.
Great writeup as always man.
Wonder what are the odds of an overclocked 980ti and 4770k getting a smooth framerate downsampled from 4k?
I ran the first two games ds'd from 4k and they both stayed locked at 60fps. I know the new game is a lot more detailed but still curious what you guys think it would run at.
Wonder what are the odds of an overclocked 980ti and 4770k getting a smooth framerate downsampled from 4k?
I ran the first two games ds'd from 4k and they both stayed locked at 60fps. I know the new game is a lot more detailed but still curious what you guys think it would run at.
None.
I'd be surprised if it wasn't sub-20 FPS on consoles considering the mostly sequential CPU load it induces on the PC version.
Yes. Except you can probably set all the settings to max.
What? It's not sub-20 on a Titan X. It's never ever going to be GPU limited on a Titan X.
I don't understand what you are talking about.
nkarafo
Member
That guy said he gets sub 20fps drops with a Titan X and a i7 4770k.
So i wonder if those drops (in that particular area) can be worse than that on lesser systems.
Thanks for help and info Durante.
Well, if he does get sub-20 FPS, then it's not because of the Titan X (unless running at very high resolutions)
But really, I think it might not have been sub-20 FPS. Even something like 30 FPS can feel really bad if it's a sudden drop from most of a game running at 60.
jacksepticeye
Member
Well, if he does get sub-20 FPS, then it's not because of the Titan X (unless running at very high resolutions)
But really, I think it might not have been sub-20 FPS. Even something like 30 FPS can feel really bad if it's a sudden drop from most of a game running at 60.
Unless the game runs weirdly windowed vs fullscreen then, running windowed 1080p I was definitely getting between like 18-30fps in
Farron Keep
That being said its just that one area and some parts of it are worse than others. It also runs better now on the newer drivers and stayed within a higher framerate
EDIT: Just went through the area again paying very close attention to Fraps and it barely ever hit 30. It was stuck in the 20-25 range most of the way through except for a few areas deeper in. Fighting 3 of the big dudes at once I saw 19fps. Again this is windowed 1080p, changing it to fullscreen 1440p did almost no difference
SmashN'Grab
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Very good article. I'm looking forward to this game.
I have a Core i5 4690K, 2GB GTX760 and 8GB RAM. I'm hoping to get a solid 30fps with medium-high settings if that's possible. That's pretty much how I got on with The Witcher 3, so if I could repeat that I'd be happy.
The original specs for the game made me think I could max it out at 60fps, but the revised ones have brought that expectation down.
I have a Core i5 4690K, 2GB GTX760 and 8GB RAM. I'm hoping to get a solid 30fps with medium-high settings if that's possible. That's pretty much how I got on with The Witcher 3, so if I could repeat that I'd be happy.
The original specs for the game made me think I could max it out at 60fps, but the revised ones have brought that expectation down.
Oh, for sure, I'm not blaming the PC version.
Would my i7-6700 @ 3.4GHz and 970 be enough to run this at 1080p/60fps?
I'm really conflicted between picking it up on PS4 today(they started selling it over here) and waiting few months to pick the PC version after a price drop(probably around the DLC release) or just waiting few more days for the PC version.
I'm really conflicted between picking it up on PS4 today(they started selling it over here) and waiting few months to pick the PC version after a price drop(probably around the DLC release) or just waiting few more days for the PC version.
GHG
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Do know where else to ask this so sorry if I'm in the wrong place but am I right in saying this game seems to be closer to Demons Souls than any of the previous Souls games have been? I really liked Demons Souls but struggled to get into Dark Souls 1 and haven't even tried 2 yet because of that. Should I be giving this a shot?
You're probably better off asking this in the import thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1199435
Dictator93
Member
Basically yes, except for one seciton of the game that is cpu limited. Far superior to the PS4 version.
GHG
Member
Thanks.
Thanks.
That's crazy. Crazy enough to look like a bug, at least, so maybe we'll get a patch to put it at least in the low 30s.
jacksepticeye
Member
Could just be my system or something since Durante didn't report it bring THAT bad but it's enough to be very noticeably sluggish. Keep in mind that it fluctuates so while I say it hits sub 20fps it's not a constant thing. There are times when you go inside buildings that it goes back up to 35-40 but the entire area is a black mark on what is generally smooth in other areas.
I will try it on my other rig later which has an i7-5960x in it and a 980Ti to see if there's any change. PC version hasn't updated on Steam since I got it a few weeks ago either BTW so it's likely further patches or drivers will change it when it launches properly
Guess they used this occassion to update the game + DLC.Preload is up on Steam if anyone didn't know.
Went from 1.01 to 1.03 and the OST is complete now instead of the three random tracks it had before lol
Orthogonal
Member
Durante, in the article you mentioned there were a few driver related crashes. Nvidia has released the "game ready" driver for DS3 now. Does that fix the crashing issue?
That's the driver version he tested with: 364.72.
iRAWRasaurus
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Nice thanks for the heads up!Preload is up on Steam if anyone didn't know.