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Ebola: Doctors told to prep for global outbreak after victim allowed on two planes

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kmag

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It is present in sweat though and I imagine saliva. I'm not sure how hard it is to get infected from contact with those compare to blood.

By the time the individual is sick enough to be that infectious you're unlikely to be meeting them on the street. The main threat is to health workers and close family. In parts of Africa, the issue is clouded by the mistrust of healthcare workers, the burial practices (typically the family wash down the decreased, with Ebola they should be immediately placed in a sealed bag then a sealed casket or ideally cremated) and the ad-hoc nature of the medical facilities don't help meaning it is difficult for the patents to be isolated effectively.
 

Rapstah

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Obviously it is easier to catch compared to HIV since two or three doctors have caught it.

In general, this obviously isn't true based on how many people have HIV compared to Ebola. Under the specific conditions of handling the infected, though, you're right in that Ebola probably transfers more easily than HIV.
 

Vagabundo

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Unless it mutates I doubt this will be a serious virus in the western world.

It probably will be/already is a serious virus in Africa, maybe soon the middle east and Asia.

You can be sure it's mutating all the time.

We really need to step up to the threat globally. If it's not ebola it will be a flu strain or something out of nowhere. It's only a matter of time, really. Let's hope when it happens our medical tech is up to the challenge.
 

Chichikov

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You can catch it though airborne particles, check the medical article earlier in the thread.
Which one?
Because I read both WHO and CDC reports on it.

I guess if someone cough into your face you can get it, but the CDC specially talked about the risk of infecting someone who is on a plane with you, which is small.

Don't get me wrong, we should take it seriously, it's a dangerous disease, but it's not something that is really capable of inflicting the levels of devastation that people are freaking out about, even in Africa that has significantly worse sanitary conditions and medical facilities, infections tend to get capped at a few hundreds.

There are ways to model epidemics, and Ebola does not look like a civilization killer.
In fact, it is EXTREMELY unlikely its death toll can come close to the influenza virus (we're talking on multiple orders of magnitude here).
 

Hitokage

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Don't get me wrong, we should take it seriously, it's a dangerous disease, but it's not something that is really capable of inflicting the levels of devastation that people are freaking out about, even in Africa that has significantly worse sanitary conditions and medical facilities, infections tend to get capped at a few hundreds.

There are ways to model epidemics, and Ebola does not look like a civilization killer.
In fact, it is EXTREMELY unlikely its death toll can come close to the influenza virus (we're talking on multiple orders of magnitude here).
True, but some people are talking like it's rabies, which despite its effectively 100% mortality rate after symptoms begin must be transmitted by direct fluid exchange like biting. Ebola is a bit more contagious than that, even if it's not nearly on the order of a flu.

It won't kill us all, but it's something we need to keep contained.
 

Chichikov

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True, but some people are talking like it's rabies, which despite its effectively 100% mortality rate after symptoms begin must be transmitted by direct fluid exchange like biting. Ebola is a bit more contagious than that, even if it's not nearly on the order of a flu.

It won't kill us all, but it's something we need to keep contained.
That is true, but I still think there is an unwarranted level of panic when it comes to Ebola.
Including this thread.
If you live in the west, this should not be something that keep you up at night.
 

Vagabundo

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Which one?
Because I read both WHO and CDC reports on it.

I guess if someone cough into your face you can get it, but the CDC specially talked about the risk of infecting someone who is on a plane with you, which is small.

My mistake it's not currently airbourne, but this is still a great article:



Don't get me wrong, we should take it seriously, it's a dangerous disease, but it's not something that is really capable of inflicting the levels of devastation that people are freaking out about, even in Africa that has significantly worse sanitary conditions and medical facilities, infections tend to get capped at a few hundreds.

There are ways to model epidemics, and Ebola does not look like a civilization killer.
In fact, it is EXTREMELY unlikely its death toll can come close to the influenza virus (we're talking on multiple orders of magnitude here).

I take most of the freaking as tongue in cheek - in this thread anyway. I can't see it becoming a pandemic unless it transmission changes. It's does not appear to be as deadly as is being reported either. Spanish flu was probably more deadly.
 

Hitokage

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That is true, but I still think there is an unwarranted level of panic when it comes to Ebola.
Including this thread.
If you live in the west, this should not be something that keep you up at night.
Heh, it's nothing like it was in the 90's.
 

efyu_lemonardo

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are we all going to die?
A thousand people tops will die as a result of this. probably much less.

It's as much of a threat to you as AIDS. You probably aren't going to be affected.
Ebola is a considerably smaller threat than AIDS. The fact is it kills most hosts way too quickly to allow them to spread it to large numbers of people.




edit: worst case scenario is probably more than a thousand, but nowhere near a global threat.
 

Plinko

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1. This is the EXACT same news as yesterday. Doctors were notified recently about this situation, the virus, symptoms, and quarantine procedure as well as contacting the government.

2. It is a British publication designed specifically to get a huge reaction from the public. Just look at the cover.

Calm down, people.
 
RIP everyone x 2

I said this in the other thread but I made it to the quarter of a century club so life was just ok :p

RIP, and I'm seeing lots of people cough and sneeze on the train im on :/ I need a mask
 

E92 M3

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For the science geeks - fun stuff.
 
I was listening to a specialist say that the reason why there are outbreaks in places like Guinea, is that it's a country that has horrible health services, horrible sanitation and low education.

In our over sanitized Purel paranoid part of the world, it is allot harder for it to spread
 

Bitmap Frogs

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I was listening to a specialist say that the reason why there are outbreaks in places like Guinea, is that it's a country that has horrible health services, horrible sanitation and low education.

In our over sanitized Purel paranoid part of the world, it is allot harder for it to spread

Reading some of the coverage, I can believe that.
 

Rei_Toei

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Shit won't spread as easily in more developed countries, sure, but it is still scary as fuck that that infected man could get on a plane.
 

Forsete

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In general, this obviously isn't true based on how many people have HIV compared to Ebola. Under the specific conditions of handling the infected, though, you're right in that Ebola probably transfers more easily than HIV.

Yup that's what I mean.

You can be sure it's mutating all the time.

We really need to step up to the threat globally. If it's not ebola it will be a flu strain or something out of nowhere. It's only a matter of time, really. Let's hope when it happens our medical tech is up to the challenge.

Yes it is only a matter of time. Nature has a thing for cleaning house once in a while. I remember many years ago we had lots of rabbits all over the place, digging holes in the garden, getting run over by cars, then I started noticing dead rabbits in the garden, and one day there were none left. Turns out Myxomatosis had struck, and all were gone.

Medicine will probably solve the problems once it turns global, but it takes time to get a vaccine together.
 
I woke up yesterday with almost the exact same symptoms, no travel but recently went to NYC over the weekend. Maybe I should go to the doctor sooner than later....
 
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