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[MThanded]

Cloud Tech - PS4

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[Papercuts]

Agree, I now expect all Xbone games to get better reviews than the PS4.

Will stick to reading reviews from Eurogamer.

Jeez guys, I sure hope eurogamer happens to review the games gamer forever prefers better, or else he may have to take his reading elsewhere!

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

When they mean second screen experience - is it the Vita remote play and Xbox Smart Glass thing?

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

Does anyone have the magazine? Could we get a summary of their choices?

 

[StuBurns]

Second screen?

Yeah no.

Why? Sony's system is single app based, seems much better.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

When they mean second screen experience - is it the Vita remote play and Xbox Smart Glass thing?

Yes

 

[UpUpDownDown]

Wow. Half the people in here don't know the difference between a bunch of servers and what Gaikai is.

No surprise ps4 is the winner.

 

[JaggedSac]

The cloud offerings from the two aren't even comparable. One is game streaming tech, and one is computational\infrastructure services for developers.

 

[Dragon]

Why? Sony's system is single app based, seems much better.

Shpeshal_Ed obviously is an MS insider that has extensively used both and has come to his/her own conclusion based on evidence rather than bias. I for one applaud him/her.

The cloud offerings from the two aren't even comparable. One is game streaming tech, and one is computation\infrastructure services for developers.

I'm not sure what point you're making, but you're sort of being disingenuous to both sides of the debate.

 

[Dabanton]

What if the guys at Eurogamer agree with them?

Then we go with IGN or Gamespot and if they agree with them we'll find some no name blog.

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

Stuff like controller,launch lineup and first party studios is subjective.

Of course it's subjective, why wouldn't it be?

How can they judge which has the better launch games? They can only go on quantity which isn't a good measure in this instance.

They are probably going by exclusives. When it comes to exclusives(aka only available on XB1 and not PC), a lot of people think XB1 is ahead in that regard. Forza, DR3, Crimson Dragon, Ryselol) and Killer Instinct vs Killzone and Knack(might be :lol worthy, don't know yet) and resogun.

lol halo

What is the"lol" for? Halo definitely deserves it's spot.

That...makes no sense. Like MS doesn't own Azure? Azure is only matched by Amazon and google...

XB1 doesn't use azure.

 

[GarthVaderUK]

Xbox One takes the controller?

That's actually quite the opposite of the majority of the impressions so far. Interesting.

I've read a lot of impressions praising the X1 controller too. It's going to ultimately come down to personal preference I think, much like how many here prefer the DS3 over the 360 pad.

 

[Visualante2]

BTW, does this mean that neither A Link Between Worlds nor 3D Land will get a cover story?

Edge seldom give hand held games a cover. I know WipEout Pure and Grand Theft Auto Chinatown Wars got one. Official Nintendo Magazine will have it if that's any consolation. I wouldn't rule out 3D Land getting a cover, however.

When is this out digitally? I want to read the article before making any conclusions.

Tomorrow for Apple and Google Play. Maybe a little later for Zinio. They seem to slack.

 

[jimbobsmells]

When is this out digitally? I want to read the article before making any conclusions.

 

[Parmenide]

Cloud tech, really? Now i'm curious.

 

[Loudninja]

Of course it's subjective, why wouldn't it be?

They are probably going by exclusives. When it comes to exclusives(aka only available on XB1 and not PC), a lot of people think XB1 is ahead in that regard. Forza, DR3, Crimson Dragon, Ryselol) Killer Instinct vs Killzone and Knack(might be :lol worthy, don't know yet) and resogun.

What is the"lol" for? Halo definitely deserves it's spot.

XB1 doesn't use azure.

Some people dont seem to get that hehe.

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

XB1 doesn't use azure.

It doesn't? What does it use?

 

[Dragon]

When is this out digitally? I want to read the article before making any conclusions.

Strange strange days my friends. A GAFfer wants to read the whole thing inside of judging based on the little evidence we have. What is GAF coming to?

It doesn't? What does it use?

Major Nelson's tears.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Super Mario 64 and RE4 should not be that high. HL2, Portal, MGS, FF7 and FF6 should be the top 5.

But the fact that they gave the cloud tech to Sony when it's really not even toting it says volumes. Over compensation by MS much?

Controllers is all subjective though. From what I can tell though, the most improved controller is still easily the DS4.

 

[GrizzleBoy]

What? Rumble on triggers adding more depth? That's some Dhalsim level of stretching.

Yes, as in feeling the lock up on the brake trigger in a driving game.

Or being able to feel directional feedback (front left/front right/rear left/rear right).

Feeling the different types of gun kick in FPS games.

Being able to isolate those intricate details to separate rumble motors that feed directly into the pads of your fingers without losing clarity from the general motors.

Yes, depth.

 

[jts]

Sonic: Lost World - 4

I read "World" and my heart skipped a bit thinking about 3D World.

I'm pretty sure Mario 3DW will get 8+, betting on 9 myself. 10 wouldn't surprise me either.

Still that's shitty about Sonic. Sonic cycle is back?

 

[Wynnebeck]

Well you certainly know how to formulate a strawman if nothing else.

:lol

 

[CambriaRising]

XB1 doesn't use azure.

Yes it does.

http://vpncreative.net/xbox-one-will-use-azure-host-cloud-services/

http://news.xbox.com/2013/10/xbox-one-cloud

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

It doesn't? What does it use?

XBL doesn't use Azure, it uses thunderhead.

.

 

[dark_prinny]

Does anyone have the magazine? Could we get a summary of their choices?

Just the cover, scans are banned.

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

Super Mario 64 and RE4 should not be that high. HL2, Portal, MGS, FF7 and FF6 should be the top 5.

These results were voted in by readers. They don't reflect Edge's editorial musings.

Controllers is all subjective though. From what I can tell though, the most improved controller is still easily the DS4.

That doesn't mean much when the controller you're improving is the DS3.

 

[JaggedSac]

Thunderhead is a subset of servers in Azure if I recall correctly. A rather large chunk too I believe.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Controller - xbox

Really? I mean, really?

Yeah, am surpirsed too. Has like everyone up to this day said the DS4 is the better controller?

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

.

Thunderhead is a portion of Azure devoted exclusively to the Xbox platform. Themoreyouknow.

Thunderhead is a subset of servers in Azure if I recall correctly. A rather large chunk too I believe.

Yep.

Just the cover, scans are banned.

Was asking for a summary, not scans.

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

Yes it does.

http://vpncreative.net/xbox-one-will-use-azure-host-cloud-services/

http://news.xbox.com/2013/10/xbox-one-cloud

Microsoft's 300,000 server Xbox Live Cloud is a subset of Microsoft's Azure platform. The part reserved for Xbox Live is called Thunderhead, which can only be used for Xbox One - not PC or even Xbox 360.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ted-servers-on-playstation-xbox-360-and-wii-u


It doesn't sound like it's the same thing.

 

[Hot Coldman]

pls ban OP for his butchering of "Majora"

 

[drgambit]

Who's lifetime??

Where is Ninja Gaiden? Zak McKraken? The Last Ninja? Tie Fighter? Super Metroid? A Link to the Past? Megaman? Ultima?

Spoiler

I'm too old

Kids from the 90's... what a joke.

 

[Hasney]

Still that's shitty about Sonic. Sonic cycle is back?

Reviews are all over the place on that one. It's a game that needs a demo or at least a rental I think.

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ted-servers-on-playstation-xbox-360-and-wii-u


It doesn't sound like it's the same thing.

Do you know what subset means?

 

[Wynnebeck]

Yes, as in feeling the lock up on the brake trigger in a driving game.

Or being able to feel direction feedback (front left/front right/rear left/rear right).

Feeling the different types of gun kick in FPS games.

Yes, depth.

None if those things are adding depth though. All of your examples are forms of force feedback which the rumble triggers are not capable of. They are no different then the same rumble we've always had. So no.

 

[mrklaw]

When they mean second screen experience - is it the Vita remote play and Xbox Smart Glass thing?

I guess so - but for me, remote play is a specific feature, and 'second screen' is more the ancillary interaction with a game running on a console.

 

[CambriaRising]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ted-servers-on-playstation-xbox-360-and-wii-u


It doesn't sound like it's the same thing.

It is the exact same tech with a different name.

 

[TheRealTalker]

It doesn't? What does it use?

Balance

 

[p3tran]

Cloud Tech - PS4

dale

hmm.. the plot keeps thickening.......

 

[dark_prinny]

Thunderhead is a portion of Azure devoted exclusively to the Xbox platform. Themoreyouknow.



Yep.



Was asking for a summary, not scans.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=87140350

 

[Steroyd]

PS4 wins cloud?

Tmeptation to buy magazine rising...

They're likely ranking the controllers based on tech, not personal feel.

The rumble triggers in the XB1 controller will likely add depth to games easier than the touch pad on the DS4.

I think it's based on personal feel, touch can add something to games, in terms of input and out of gaming features, like a touchpad mouse for the web browser/virtual keyboard, if it really was based on tech, the DS4 should really win.

 

[GrizzleBoy]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ted-servers-on-playstation-xbox-360-and-wii-u


It doesn't sound like it's the same thing.

Your quote shows that thunderhead is a subset of Azure.

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Thunderhead is therefore a part of Azure reserved for xbox usage using your quote.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

That doesn't mean much when the controller you're improving is the DS3.

Sorry if this confused me, but do you mean by that the DS3 is already awesome as is? Just double checking.

 

[Z3M0G]

Would be hard to beat PS4 "Second Screen Experience" with Vita in the mix, I realize...

But "Cloud Tech" too? Oh my... nobody would have seen that coming.

 

[Spieler Eins]

The better Galaxy made it into the best games list. And give me all that Majoras Mask love

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=87140350

Haha the MAD picture hadn't loaded when I replied. Nice.

 

[PaulLFC]

Interested to see the justification for media and social services going to XB1 over PS4 - for starters, you don't need PS+ for them on PS4 whereas most (all?) are Gold only on XB1.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

XB1 doesn't use azure.

Xbox One developers have free access to @WindowsAzure services. That means great stuff like dedicated servers http://mjr.mn/19UoPo1

.

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

Interested to see the justification for media and social services going to XB1 over PS4 - for starters, you don't need PS+ for them on PS4 whereas most (all?) are Gold only on XB1.

That's a matter of price. They're reviewing the services on their abilities and breadth.

 

[Interfectum]

How does PS4 win "cloud"? Has something not been announced or something?