next month should be a full-on next gen launch blowout. I'd love for them to review both versions side by side but that'll have to wait for Digital Foundry
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Edge #260 scores, Xbox One vs. PS4
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next month should be a full-on next gen launch blowout. I'd love for them to review both versions side by side but that'll have to wait for Digital Foundry
Sword Of Doom
Member
Ease of development is close huh. Wtf?
Visualante2
Member
Look and feel, I would say.
End of year issue is usually a reviews special then the month after is the awards.
Oho. Thought that the XB1 controller would be a given. Now I'm worried that I might not like either of them
Zombie James
Banned
Is a game that's releasing four months after launch really a "launch window" game? They're really stretching it out now.
Triggerhappytel
Member
If they're counting Titanfall, are they counting Infamous and DriveClub as well?
Less than four months, and yes that's within the window.
i refer you to this thread and maybe why you can understand
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=699025&highlight=disappointed+tour
Visualante2
Member
Since when did hardware mean technical specifications? Companies have been obfuscating technical details for years now.
I think we've gotten more lenient with this term but Nintendo really took the piss with theirs. 4 months isn't a long time.
dragonbane
Member
Not really. Especially when you ignore talented studios like Evolution, Sucker Punch, Polyphony and freaking SSM in the process. Not to mention Sony's established second party.
Good man.
Pretty much. These "best games of all time lists" are almost always decided by people who know very little about gaming.
Pretty sure 4 months is still a launch window. But it's suspect they are counting Titanfall and not Driveclub or Infamous.
ashecitism
Member
It's a preview/teaser for next month's cover. Maybe CoD: Ghosts?
McHuj
Member
Thanks, I wasn't sure.
With a date of 11/21, hopefully, it's not a Ghosts thing as the game would have been out for a while already.
How much moisture they can technologically pack into a cubic foot (or meter if you prefer)
R3TRODYCE
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SmoothRunningGun
Member
How id titanfall a launch game? If it is then so is Infamous. Advantage Sony.
Please name those PC games that eat any Zelda title. I'd buy them right now. If those PC games were really better then Edge would have said so. I know it's your opinions but please don't think everyone would think the same.
So you've played the Xbone launch games?
graywolf323
Member
Titanfall is launch window? 4 months after launch is not "launch window" IMO
I'd like to know this as well, if they count Titanfall but not Infamous that's just BS
I'd like to know this as well, if they count Titanfall but not Infamous that's just BS
Andronicus
Banned
Vice City & No San Andreas? what the fuck
Ravensmash
Member
So, similar to this gen then? I think this is what most of us were expecting for next gen.
PORKMON
Member
yeah some of them I have. At E3, Gamescom and Eurogamer show. why you ask?
I miss that man, he's a fucking champion, best comedy troll of all time (he got SO MANY idiots riled up) he's damn near cracking up through several of the videos.
So damn good, we need more Chad.
Steverulez
Member
Sony clearly win on the first party studio front, MS have opened a lot of new ones that are promising but its early days and none have released anything yet.
But Team Ico and Media Molecule on the list? Team Ico have been MIA all generation and Media Molecule, well LBP was good but I would have thought SSM, Sucker Punch and Polyphony would be much more worthy of being on the list, perhaps a bit nit picky but still.
Don't really have any complaints at their comparison though
But Team Ico and Media Molecule on the list? Team Ico have been MIA all generation and Media Molecule, well LBP was good but I would have thought SSM, Sucker Punch and Polyphony would be much more worthy of being on the list, perhaps a bit nit picky but still.
Don't really have any complaints at their comparison though
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Replying to OP and edge content:
Unbiased it seems, which makes for a nice change but I disagree with these two:
1. Cloud: seriously GaiKai not available at launch and coming next year with no facts about geolocation of datacentres, platform features, proven technology, investment, resources etc. This one goes to Microsoft/Azure easily, clearly edge are not aware of the scale and capabilities of Azure that launched 3 years ago. GaiKai is basically USA only based and outsources to third party datacentres/pipes. Azure is in house MS and on a global scale delivery regional dedicated servers. Azure/Compute is a far more mature platform that is available to gamers and developers alike AT LAUNCH. Fail on this one edge.
2. Second screen: again this should go to MS/X1. Sony lock you into Sony products where Smartglass enables any devices you own regardless of brand or future purchases etc. I agree the VITA integration is more mature with Sony but overall I think Smartglass beats the closed Sony system here. I can see how this goes both ways though.
Otherwise that OP summary and edge's take on things was quite good and helpful.
Unbiased it seems, which makes for a nice change but I disagree with these two:
1. Cloud: seriously GaiKai not available at launch and coming next year with no facts about geolocation of datacentres, platform features, proven technology, investment, resources etc. This one goes to Microsoft/Azure easily, clearly edge are not aware of the scale and capabilities of Azure that launched 3 years ago. GaiKai is basically USA only based and outsources to third party datacentres/pipes. Azure is in house MS and on a global scale delivery regional dedicated servers. Azure/Compute is a far more mature platform that is available to gamers and developers alike AT LAUNCH. Fail on this one edge.
2. Second screen: again this should go to MS/X1. Sony lock you into Sony products where Smartglass enables any devices you own regardless of brand or future purchases etc. I agree the VITA integration is more mature with Sony but overall I think Smartglass beats the closed Sony system here. I can see how this goes both ways though.
Otherwise that OP summary and edge's take on things was quite good and helpful.
The ps4 second screen works on iOS and Android.
GetemMa
Member
Are you telling me that having some half assed 2nd screen features on a tablet is more useful than being able to stream your entire PS4 game to the Vita?
That's a joke right?
BTW: I'll take the proposition of being able to stream classic playstation games over a cloud than the proposed magic cloud based processing which, so far, seems to be only used in ways that aren't very impressive IE AI calculations in Titanfall and Forza.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Oh, my bad then definitely ignore me on that one. Cheers for the correction mate. Edge I bow to thee.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Given my being incorrect about the Sony closed system I totally agree this should go to Sony.
plasmawave
Banned
PS4 is placed in front of the X1. THAT MEANS THE PS4 WINS!!!!
randomengine
Banned
If you read the quotes carefully most of these "winner" determinations are based entirely on either hype or perceptions of said hype. They measure first party exclusives based entirely at the studio level, not comparing any concrete launch titles. This is a worthless comparison and this entire "versus" should be summarily rejected. It is entirely conjecture.
I believe they did two covers for this issue. In the other cover...
thesuperfunk
Member
Half-Life
plasmawave
Banned
zero shift
Banned
Like the Sega Saturn controller, I never got the "Greatest Ever!" vibe surrounding the Xbox controller. The Dpad is horrible, the triggers are too long and deep, and the analog sticks are placed odd. Great controller? Yes. Greatest ever? Far from it.
randomengine
Banned
Controller: Microsoft adds 40 upgrades to its near-perfect 360 controller design and retains the title belt for another round
My analysis: They are simply taking their formed opinion from previous gen and bringing it to the fore. No actual comparison took place.
Hardware: While Xbox One attempts to blend in with your other consumer electronics PS4's design exudes real charisma
My analysis: Edge is only looking at the exterior.
Launch window exclusives: A proven racing franchise in Forza 5 and exclusivity on Titanfall. Advantage Microsoft
My analysis: They haven't played any of these games and are simply making a judgment based on old knowledge.
Indie support: Sony is clearly out ahead when it comes to indies, and it's telling how much weight that has carried in players' minds
My analysis: Any look at the release list would come to this conclusion.
First party studios: Microsoft has weighty series but the combination of Naughty Dog, Media Molecule and Team Ico wins out.
My analysis: What does this have to do with launch? None of those studios have launch titles. This is a useless comparison for launch. Compare the actual first-party launch titles.
Second screen experience: Having both Vita and tablets in play makes Sony's second-screen pitch the more immediately persuasive.
My analysis: Uh, ok.
Social services: There's little to choose between them, but Microsoft is building its service on more stable foundations.
My analysis: Uh, ok. So you don't know, so why pick a winner at all?
Cloud technology: Sony's vision for Gaikai feels like the most tangible road map either company has yet delivered
My analysis: "feels"? You are declaring a winner based on feel?
Media and services: If you want a multimedia box and don't mind Kinect's insidious side, Xbox One is the clear winner.
My analysis: Uh, ok.
Ease of development: Both offer a friendly environment, but only Sony has the policies to really encourage experimentation
My analysis: And which policies are those? Explain. No? Edge making shit up again? OK!
This is a worthless feature. No real information, anyone reading a gaming forum could come to all of these conclusions. We want information we don't have, like honest to goodness impressions of tangible hardware and software.
My analysis: They are simply taking their formed opinion from previous gen and bringing it to the fore. No actual comparison took place.
Hardware: While Xbox One attempts to blend in with your other consumer electronics PS4's design exudes real charisma
My analysis: Edge is only looking at the exterior.
Launch window exclusives: A proven racing franchise in Forza 5 and exclusivity on Titanfall. Advantage Microsoft
My analysis: They haven't played any of these games and are simply making a judgment based on old knowledge.
Indie support: Sony is clearly out ahead when it comes to indies, and it's telling how much weight that has carried in players' minds
My analysis: Any look at the release list would come to this conclusion.
First party studios: Microsoft has weighty series but the combination of Naughty Dog, Media Molecule and Team Ico wins out.
My analysis: What does this have to do with launch? None of those studios have launch titles. This is a useless comparison for launch. Compare the actual first-party launch titles.
Second screen experience: Having both Vita and tablets in play makes Sony's second-screen pitch the more immediately persuasive.
My analysis: Uh, ok.
Social services: There's little to choose between them, but Microsoft is building its service on more stable foundations.
My analysis: Uh, ok. So you don't know, so why pick a winner at all?
Cloud technology: Sony's vision for Gaikai feels like the most tangible road map either company has yet delivered
My analysis: "feels"? You are declaring a winner based on feel?
Media and services: If you want a multimedia box and don't mind Kinect's insidious side, Xbox One is the clear winner.
My analysis: Uh, ok.
Ease of development: Both offer a friendly environment, but only Sony has the policies to really encourage experimentation
My analysis: And which policies are those? Explain. No? Edge making shit up again? OK!
This is a worthless feature. No real information, anyone reading a gaming forum could come to all of these conclusions. We want information we don't have, like honest to goodness impressions of tangible hardware and software.
So I don't know much about Gaikai other than they were a separate company that Sony bought and is planning to use to roll out streaming titles and possible backwards compatibility. Was / is the service actually working with some level of confidence with other titles or is it still fairly speculative at this point? Can I actually sign up for it now?
randomengine
Banned
The feature, every single word is entirely speculative. All of it.
Post of the decade, +50
The people who are outraged by xbone winning the controller battle; have you tried both/neither?
Visualante2
Member
I think it's the HBO Go, ESPN, HDMI in port that really clinched it here.