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Edge #260 scores, Xbox One vs. PS4
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sixteen-bit
Member
He made an appearance around the PS4 reveal in February
Isn't the XB1 one basically the same just with a better d-pad and trigger feedback?
Who's lifetime??
Where is Ninja Gaiden? Zak McKraken? The Last Ninja? Tie Fighter? Super Metroid? A Link to the Past? Megaman? Ultima?
I'm too old
WTF...the put OOT as number 1, but no ALTTP?! I mean WTF!? I guess all these lists came about after OOT came out but don't they know that game is basically a 3d remake of ALTTP!?! It has the same exact game structure! Just change Aghanim with Ganondorf and that's is it!!!
Not hard to believe. Xbox controller has always been better than the DS. As for the cloud, it sounds like they're just rating what they know - game streaming. Sony has it, MS doesn't. To go beyond that, they'd need to use and understand what Azure is (the top rated cloud service in the world, which just recently beat out Amazon's formerly #1 service), and Edge isn't equipped to do that. Obviously many of these categories will change throughout the lifespan of the consoles.
Also lol at the disparity in Wii Party U scores between Edge and Famitsu. Famitsu getting that Nintendo money.
Visualante2
Member
Want to apologise for the Wii Party U score. It got a 5. Person at other forum typed it out wrong.
TrojanBlade
Member
There was one more category...
Resolution
1080p -PS4
720p - XB1
Resolution
1080p -PS4
720p - XB1
Some people aren't impressed by the new LB and RB buttons.
BruiserBear
Banned
No, they kinda tweaked everything, and some people aren't gonna like it.
The analog sticks got a little smaller, and the bumpers are a little different. Triggers are larger.
symphonask
Member
There are a couple of small quotes in the issue from Shinji Mikami and Keiji Inafune downplaying the hardware spec differences between the two consoles.
Mikami: "We only need one console. Why do I have to make two versions of a game? And when Xbox One was first announced it had lower specs than PS4, but now they're almost identical. So either will do."
Inafune: "I don't think there's a major difference between them. If you get down to the tiny details then maybe each is better at one thing than the other, but it doesn't really impact the way you make a game. It's not like PS4 or Xbox One are particularly hard to develop for. Quite the opposite: you can make whatever you want on wither one, and that should be enough for anyone."
Mikami: "We only need one console. Why do I have to make two versions of a game? And when Xbox One was first announced it had lower specs than PS4, but now they're almost identical. So either will do."
Inafune: "I don't think there's a major difference between them. If you get down to the tiny details then maybe each is better at one thing than the other, but it doesn't really impact the way you make a game. It's not like PS4 or Xbox One are particularly hard to develop for. Quite the opposite: you can make whatever you want on wither one, and that should be enough for anyone."
FeiRR
Banned
Because racing fans do use wheels. If you include a feature to cater for one genre only (which directly causes an increase of the price and other implications like reliability, etc.), it must be for some reason. Or you are just clueless at what you're doing. In case of Microsoft, I suspect the second option.
So you don't have any first-hand impressions or proof, just your speculations. None of the two controllers has "digital motors", they all have multiple levels of spin. Analog motors are stepless, old motors have speed presets (2 or 3 in case of DS3, I don't remember exactly). I was curious if you know what you're rambling about. You don't. This ends the discussion for me.
Yep! And after I could play with both during Gamescom, I agree.
The DS3 was below average. The DS4 is the best controller this time.
Really unbelieveble!
AHA-Lambda
Member
I found it more uncomfortable to use and immediately awkward to use compared to the comfort of the 360 controller, as well as it seemed to me that the sensitivity was off, but that may be the game I played.
This is my opinion. Based on no first hand experience either console
Quite the opposite for me. Forza was tight and the rumble was glorious. D Pad is a huge step up
Visualante2
Member
The pad of course. It's not my job to dream up new genres. But I hope it offers some new possibilities we can't imagine.
Here's the bottom line on each of the face offs.
Controller: Microsoft adds 40 upgrades to its near-perfect 360 controller design and retains the title belt for another round
Hardware: While Xbox One attempts to blend in with your other consumer electronics PS4's design exudes real charisma
Launch window exclusives: A proven racing franchise in Forza 5 and exclusivity on Titanfall. Advantage Microsoft
Indie support: Sony is clearly out ahead when it comes to indies, and it's telling how much weight that has carried in players' minds
First party studios: Microsoft has weighty series but the combination of Naughty Dog, Media Molecule and Team Ico wins out.
Second screen experience: Having both Vita and tablets in play makes Sony's second-screen pitch the more immediately persuassive.
Social services: There's little to choose between them, but Microsoft is building its service on more stable foundations.
Cloud technology: Sony's vision for Gaikai feels like the most tangible road map either company has yet delivered
Media and services: If you want a multimedia box and don't mind Kinect's insidious side, Xbox One is the clear winner.
Ease of development: Both offer a friendly environment, but only Sony has the policies to really encourage experimentation
Also includes an interview with Frank Gibeau (EA) and Eric Hirshberg (Activision)
Hopefully this settles some of the moaning, there's 14 pages to read through. (struggled not to laugh at the Team ICO bit)
You should get used to living in a world where people call The Last of Us one of the best games ever made.
MoogleWizard
Member
Seeing The Last of Us ranked higher than Chrono Trigger and Majora's Mask breaks my gamer heart.
I would have given cloud tech to xbone and controller to PS4. I agree with the rest.
I assume Edge liked the promise of Gaikai, something of a new feature more than the more mundane cheap and plentiful servers of xbox live.
I'm not sure why they liked the x1 controller better. I guess the vibrating triggers really made a difference. I didn't get to use them when playing KI.
I assume Edge liked the promise of Gaikai, something of a new feature more than the more mundane cheap and plentiful servers of xbox live.
I'm not sure why they liked the x1 controller better. I guess the vibrating triggers really made a difference. I didn't get to use them when playing KI.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
It ends the discussion because you've never actually had any real point in the first place lmao.
You first start off (and continue) by even attempting to assert that any kind of majority of those who play racing use steering wheels over controllers, and use that cooked up assertion to try to dismiss the fact that the rumble in the triggers/multiple motors can transfer more information about how the car is behaving to the player (which is kind of a big deal for racing games).
You then try and jump into a discussion I was having with someone else about the types of motors and how they operate, attempt to infer that two analogue motors is equivalent to four (of any other type) in terms of directional feedback, obviously lose that battle, basically end up re-stating what I've already said and then throw your arms up in the air as if you've just dropped some megaton?
You've been doing cartwheels the entire time and have yet to prove any actual point or rebut any of mine.
Majmun
Member
^nothing is better than Majora's Mask
looks like Edge readers never played a PC game other than WoW
looks like Edge readers never played a PC game other than WoW
Triggerhappytel
Member
"...except when I don't agree with them"?
Such hilarity. It's fine when you agree with their opinion, but if not you're inclined to call it out as suspicious?!
Your opinion is wrong. The PS4 having a much better spread of indie coverage is not exactly up for debate. Aside from Below, what confirmed Xbone indie games are there that aren't coming to other consoles?
Visualante2
Member
Problem with Microsoft is they think they can buy every indie off like a sugar daddy. Maybe a few times you can do that but PC and other platforms are more important to indies than ever. Sony realises that, perhaps Microsoft does too. But it sure as hell doesn't show.
Yeah, Chrono Trigger kind of got the shaft, here. =/
It's pretty much the best game ever made.
Touchpad + Gyro's + LED light actually adds more inputs to the PS4 controller vs just better force feedback, so I'd think there are more possibilities with the DS4.
AHA-Lambda
Member
I didn't try Forza so I can't say, I played CoD Ghosts with it, and the aiming felt really off to me.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
Kinect is a controller *poke*
Gyros vs full body tracking.
LED light vs, well Kinect tracks the position of the controller via IR anyway
Touchpad vs Rumble triggers is left in terms of (new) tech and touchpad isn't winning so far.
Can Crusher
Banned
I would like to understand their reasoning on the controller. Most of the impressions I read or hear, the DS4 beats the One's controller.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
Good point
I guess PS4 will be superior when MS drops the bundled Kinect then?
NEVAR.
Would really be better in the long run to just drop the price.
If they ever do another "best games" feature (unlikely considering they apparently now have like four full time staffers, can't keep the website relevant or review most things (period, or in a timely fashion)) it'll most likely be their Game of the Generation as well.
Edit: And to those bemoaning the lack of PC titles, you must realize that consensus is dispersed because PC players don't consume games in the same way that console players do, who tend to converge on each and every tent pole release.
Sword Of Doom
Member
Im buying Beyond I dont give a fuck about review scores
Sgtpepper89
Member
Ehm is it just me that thinks Team ICO really isnt something positive to brag about nowdays?..
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
No. Not even close. It's a good game with great ideas but falters with some poor design choices and a frustrating last couple worlds. It's a 6/10 game at the bare minimum. I'd say it's more of a 7 game myself though. Anywhere between 6 and 7 seem like appropriate scores for Lost World. It's not even close to a 4.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
This is how it should be.
MarauderShields
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Zatoichi's Cane
Member
Wtf is going on with edge lately?!?!
Just canceled my digital sub...
Just canceled my digital sub...
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Some have said that there may be a small dead zone on each bumper buttons.