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[GinoFelino]

ahh, gotcha!

I miss Edge. Just found them on the Google Play Newstand store. $35 a year isnt bad.

you work for them dont you you sly fucker?

I wish! Just a long-time reader of the magazine. I've got a digital subscription on iPad; a much better value than when I had to buy the imported paper edition for 11 euros a pop

 

[TriAceJP]

This has to be sarcasm.

For as long as I've read Edge (mostly 2000's era) they've always rated Western games pretty high and Japanese games unusually low. GamesTM did as well but not as harshly as Edge had.

Unless they've changed in the last 7 or so years, I'm sticking with what I said.

 

[JaseMath]

Because it's completely asymmetrical.

Maybe. I just don't like the lock-up. Maybe if it was something like...

Just a thought.

 

[Knuf]

American subscribers: Have your deliveries completely shit the bed?

I am constantly contacting MyFavouriteMagazines.com support because entire issues just disappear. Not only that, but issues deliver very late. Later than usual these past few months. I still don't have issue #302.

I'm in mainland Europe and I can tell you that I also get issues very late, like one month late (I've got issue #302 delivered literally just two days ago).

 

[GinoFelino]

For as long as I've read Edge (mostly 2000's era) they've always rated Western games pretty high and Japanese games unusually low. GamesTM did as well but not as harshly as Edge had.

Unless they've changed in the last 7 or so years, I'm sticking with what I said.

I can't really argue about something that far back.

The last two games to receive an Edge 10 were Japanese; Bayonetta 2 and Bloodborne. Also, they've championed quirky games as far back as I can remember.

 

[Okami Haundo]

Hm... I wonder if this means we'll see Switch as the cover story for Game Informer this month as well? Did Edge state that this was an exclusive?

 

[SomedayTheFire]

Maybe. I just don't like the lock-up. Maybe if it was something like...


Just a thought.

That's not bad. I find the switch logo one that you glance at and it's great but if you spend time looking at it, it gets worse and worse.

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

That's not bad. I find the switch logo one that you glance at and it's great but if you spend time looking at it, it gets worse and worse.

yea, the uneven width's of the sides kill me

 

[RyuKanSan]

• Launch day lineup is slim pickings
• Third party support worse than at Wii U launch
• Splatoon 2 and MK8 should have been launch games but being used to pad out barren post-launch schedule
  [*]Led to believe that combining home console and portable businesses would get more games and that they'd come quicker but not the case
• Console priced higher than hoped and no pack-in to soften the blow
• Games and accessories are too expensive
• Paid online service with one free rotating game among the bad decisions
• Switch + Zelda is around same price as PS4 Pro and PSVR and significantly more expensive than PS4 Slim or Xbox One S with game
• As a portable, up against smart devices and their free games

With the bolded, I don't feel we know enough or have seen enough just yet to make that kind of statement.
I'd at least want to see what happens in a years time, including E3 and whatever happens in the Fall.

 

[Steve McQueen]

Edge has always hated quirky Japanese games.

Bayonetta 10/10

 

[Maxrunner]

Interesting that they chose Switch as the cover yet are down on it overall. good to see that an Edge cover isn't just a marketing piece.

Are down on it? what do they say then?

 

[GinoFelino]

Are down on it? what do they say then?

Posting with an absolute minimum of effort

EmiPrime wrote up a summary of their criticism that's quoted two posts above yours! They're critical/sceptical, not negative per se.

 

[Shiggy]

With the bolded, I don't feel we know enough or have seen enough just yet to make that kind of statement.
I'd at least want to see what happens in a years time, including E3 and whatever happens in the Fall.

After the Nintendo first party releases during the last 2 years, one would assume they'd be better prepared for the Switch launch. Not sure why one would be more optimistic that next year will be better.

 

[Speely]

As someone who is excited about the Switch and has one preordered, I find Edge's skepticism to be fair and warranted. Nintendo in general is a big question mark these days and the Switch is a pretty ballsy device with some questionable aspects. I think they will nail it, but fair criticism is always welcome.

 

[tesqui]

heck yeah Resident Evil is back!

 

[Diprosalic]

With the bolded, I don't feel we know enough or have seen enough just yet to make that kind of statement.
I'd at least want to see what happens in a years time, including E3 and whatever happens in the Fall.

I always knew that the effects of the unified plattform will be noticable in 2018 an not sooner.

 

[Visualante2]

With the bolded, I don't feel we know enough or have seen enough just yet to make that kind of statement.
I'd at least want to see what happens in a years time, including E3 and whatever happens in the Fall.

That statement goes back to the Iwata days, it is absolutely part of their strategy. They always seem to be on the back foot. Nintendo are right to keep the 3DS on the back burner until the Switch is out the gate, in case it's an absolute disaster but maybe talking about these mystery 3DS games that are in the works would allay those fears about Nintendo's capacity to deliver a steady stream of games.

 

[Brandon F]

Curious to read the reasons for them giving GR2 a 6, especially when 1 got an 8.

6 for Gravity Rush 2...seems like Edge's usual attempt at edginess...

GR2 has been getting some blowback on some of the podcasts I listen to lately. Mostly related to the sidequests and general storyline not really resonating. The 'falling' mechanic wasn't quite enough to keep them fully engaged despite overwhelming positive first impressions at launch.

And honestly, after platinum-ing the first game myself over christmas, I wouldn't be surprised if I feel similarly about the sequel. I wasn't really big on GR1r despite GAF's obsession with it. Its definitely not bad, but it constantly felt like there was something missing and it was a short and easy plat which kept me playing moreso than my interest in the game itself. I thought I would jump into the sequel right at launch(which is why I chose to play the first over the holiday), but I walked away much less interested and will wait for a sale.

Joypad looks horrible from that angle, couldn't they find a way to make the joycons slot in more gracefully and flush?

Glad I wasn't alone in thinking this. Had a moment looking at that cover and thought, maybe this whole joycon+shell thing is a mistake. Thing looks atrocious.

 

[mugurumakensei]

Glad to see RE VII getting love. It's one of the greats this gen.

 

[RyuKanSan]

After the Nintendo first party releases during the last 2 years, one would assume they'd be better prepared for the Switch launch. Not sure why one would be more optimistic that next year will be better.

It has been questionable. But didn't they recently within the last couple months to a year just unify their entire department. I wouldn't expect that to show so quickly.

That statement goes back to the Iwata days, it is absolutely part of their strategy. They always seem to be on the back foot. Nintendo are right to keep the 3DS on the back burner until the Switch is out the gate, in case it's an absolute disaster but maybe talking about these mystery 3DS games that are in the works would allay those fears about Nintendo's capacity to deliver a steady stream of games.

I agree. I would also hope that maybe some of those are both 3ds/Switch. It's wishful thinking especially since the recent Fire Emblem game is 3ds exclusive.

 

[JoeM86]

With the bolded, I don't feel we know enough or have seen enough just yet to make that kind of statement.
I'd at least want to see what happens in a years time, including E3 and whatever happens in the Fall.

I think making that statement is just 100% wrong.

Let's take a step back and look at Nintendo's publishing schedule for 2017 for Switch that we know of

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
1-2 Switch
Mario Kart 8
Splatoon 2
ARMS
Super Mario Odyssey
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Fire Emblem Warriors
Snipperclips

That's an average of 1 game a month from a first party in the first year, 7 of which are developed in-house and 8 of which are full retail titles. When does that ever happen? Plus there's said to be even more that we don't know of yet, if you believe the rumours.

If anyone says "Oh there is a drought" or "they can't get games out", then they can just shut up. They need to look at the actual facts

Granted, we don't know about 2018 yet, but jeez people are so quick to make conclusions without actually looking at the big picture, and it's a shame that Edge has fallen into that trap.

 

[Lylo]

Comparisons against PS4 and Xbox One is one thing but if for the same money I can get either a whole console and what will probably be one of the best games of the year or a PSVR with no games, that's a pretty clear winner for me.

Seems a bit of an odd comparrison to me.

Yeah, it makes no sense, it's like: "Dude, you can get a banana for the price of that apple!"

I don't want the banana, i want the apple, playing the new Zelda on the go will be awesome.

 

[NOLA_Gaffer]

I have Edge's Wii U issue, I feel like I need to nab this one to complete the set.

 

[AzaK]

• Launch day lineup is slim pickings
• Third party support worse than at Wii U launch
• Splatoon 2 and MK8 should have been launch games but being used to pad out barren post-launch schedule
• Led to believe that combining home console and portable businesses would get more games and that they'd come quicker but not the case
• Console priced higher than hoped and no pack-in to soften the blow
• Games and accessories are too expensive
• Paid online service with one free rotating game among the bad decisions
• Switch + Zelda is around same price as PS4 Pro and PSVR and significantly more expensive than PS4 Slim or Xbox One S with game
• As a portable, up against smart devices and their free games

This is a good list of Switch issues. Some people might not care about 1 or two of those things, and others might not care about something else but overall this is a good summary with #2 being the main reason I'm not getting one.

I think the system is sexy as hell and I like the concept (Even though I'm solely a big screen gamer and hate playing on handhelds)


However, I think with their marketting take they might still convince people that it's worth buying. Remember that most average consumers won't do all the research and know as much about it as we do. They'll see an add and a game they like and buy it based on that. Additionally, the Switch is a universe ahead of 3ds in capabilities and gives those gamers the chance to play Nintendo's big games. So, in Japan at least I think this thing will do gangbusters and might also be pretty successful around the world, but maybe not to the same degree.

 

[Uncle Moe]

American subscribers: Have your deliveries completely shit the bed?

I am constantly contacting MyFavouriteMagazines.com support because entire issues just disappear. Not only that, but issues deliver very late. Later than usual these past few months. I still don't have issue #302.

I'm a US subscriber and I've had a terrible experience with Future's subscription agent. I never received #302 and that was after earlier issues had gone missing. It's enough to make me go digital and I'm a print diehard.

 

[BRocknRolla]

Yeah my first thought, not the most flattering angle.

 

[8bit]

Holy shit. Do you get access to all the international ones too, or are you tied to the one region?

You get access to something like 12 international stores, all full of content. You might not care much for Swedish TV guides & Turkish baking magazines but there's loads of stuff.

(edit, Edge 303 is up on it now.)

 

[Jeels]

Well, regarding Readly I can't say for sure, but afaik, it's available worldwide via Zinio, the Google Play Store Newsstand and via the separate app in the iOS App Store.

Should be digitally available everywhere. I always buy my copies digital via the Edge app on my iPad. I don't live in the States though, but it should work everywhere.



Nioh's combat system alone should net it an eight.

As for Horizon, I think some people are underestimating it. It seems to have really good combat, it's a technical marvel and after reading that Guardian article and the EG preview, its characters, story and world building seem pretty impressive.

But we'll see.

Thanks, nabbed through Newstand app.

 

[Barkley's Justice]

I'm a US subscriber and I've had a terrible experience with Future's subscription agent. I never received #302 and that was after earlier issues had gone missing. It's enough to make me go digital and I'm a print diehard.

Exactly my situation. Some sort of switch between distributors happened a few months ago. Originally, IMS News in Virginia handled the U.S. distribution and it was fairly stable. But one day I received an email from myfavouritemagazines.com congratulating me on my new account. And it was obvious they had taken over distribution (at least in part?) from IMS News. And ever since it's been shit.

 

[TheBanditKing]

They give Yoshi AND GR2 a 6?

For shame.

Head Yoshi looses some of it appreal on the port to 3DS but GR2 a 6.....I don't agree

 

[Magic Mushroom]

For as long as I've read Edge (mostly 2000's era) they've always rated Western games pretty high and Japanese games unusually low. GamesTM did as well but not as harshly as Edge had.

Unless they've changed in the last 7 or so years, I'm sticking with what I said.

Dark Souls is their number one game of all-time. Bloodborne their only ten this gen. The Last Guardian their 2016 game of the year. Does not compute. Most of their tens are Japanese.

And they give a 9 to Resi 7 in this issue! As well as an 8 to Yakuza 0.

 

[Mutagenic]

I can't stand that cover. Sometimes they nail their design, other times they fall so flat.

 

[billy beane]

Might have to stop by the Barnes & Noble to pick up a copy. Haven't bought an issue of Edge in years.

 

[Magic Mushroom]

Might have to stop by the Barnes & Noble to pick up a copy. Haven't bought an issue of Edge in years.

Worth it. Excellent mag.

 

[Boy Wander]

For as long as I've read Edge (mostly 2000's era) they've always rated Western games pretty high and Japanese games unusually low. GamesTM did as well but not as harshly as Edge had.

Unless they've changed in the last 7 or so years, I'm sticking with what I said.

Nah, I'm sorry but this is just bollocks. EDGE was reviewing and giving good scores to games like Mr Mosquito, Gregory Horror Show, Viewtiful Joe, Killer 7, Freak Out, Ico, Jet Set Radio and many others years ago. Some of these games I would never had heard of yet alone gone out and purchased if it wasn't for EDGE. One of the reasons that I'm a big defender of EDGE is that it is probably the biggest driver behind widening my gaming tastes over the years. An EDGE 7 or above was pretty much a buy recommendation, regardless of genre, and rarely did I go wrong using that as a yardstick.

If anything, they were one of the few magazines with a good insight into the Japanese development industry at a time when most other publications were concentrating on Western games and in fact they used to have a guest column from a Japanese developer (Toshihiro Nagoshi) and Magazine Editor on a monthly basis. (BTW, Bring back Nagoshi, EDGE - he was GOLD, GOLD I tells ya - if you ever wondered why Yakuza is obsessed with Whisky, you should have read his EDGE columns and it wouldn't have been a surprise).

More recently they have handed out tens to the likes of Bayonetta(s) and Bloodborne and consistently rate Disgaea, Persona, Souls, GuiltyGear and tons of other Japanese series highly.

tl;dr - Bollocks.

 

[Steve McQueen]

Worth it. Excellent mag.

Probably one of the mags still worth reading. That's quite an achievement with internet covering most gaming news.

Been a sub since issue 40 and wouldn't wanna miss out

 

[Wikzo]

Not a fan of that cover image. Would have preferred a shot of the tablet+Joy-Cons.

American subscribers: Have your deliveries completely shit the bed?

I am constantly contacting MyFavouriteMagazines.com support because entire issues just disappear. Not only that, but issues deliver very late. Later than usual these past few months. I still don't have issue #302.

Same here. And I live in Europe (outside the UK). Used to be fairly quick deliveries, but the last 6-7 months have been very slow. Even missed a couple of issues, so I had to reordre.

 

[Squire]

Did not expect Gravity Rush 2 to be a 6.

I can see how it would be, despite loving it. EDGE is harsher than most publications, too.

That said, a 9 for RE7 is really something. I don't even have it yet, but I'm so happy for Capcom.

 

[Maxrunner]

Price complaint makes no sense

PSVR is 399€ here in Portugal not really see that comparison.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

For as long as I've read Edge (mostly 2000's era) they've always rated Western games pretty high and Japanese games unusually low. GamesTM did as well but not as harshly as Edge had.

Unless they've changed in the last 7 or so years, I'm sticking with what I said.

that's complete and utter shite.

 

[Boy Wander]

Yeah, it makes no sense, it's like: "Dude, you can get a banana for the price of that apple!"

I don't want the banana, i want the apple, playing the new Zelda on the go will be awesome.

I think the point that is being made is less about price and more about who the target audience is at that price point. If you're a console gamer, you can buy a PS4 Pro for the same price as a Switch + Zelda and you'll have a way more powerful console. If you're a casual, you can play games on your phone or tablet for free, and if the point of Nintendo's foray into mobile gaming is in part to persuade casuals to part cash for a "proper" gaming experience, £300 quid is a high point of entry.

 

[Kureransu]

I think the point that is being made is less about price and more about who the target audience is at that price point. If you're a console gamer, you can buy a PS4 Pro for the same price as a Switch + Zelda and you'll have a way more powerful console. If you're a casual, you can play games on your phone or tablet for free, and if the point of Nintendo's foray into mobile gaming is in part to persuade casuals to part cash for a "proper" gaming experience, £300 quid is a high point of entry.

It really isn't though (well i'm thinking 300 USD). It's a true hybrid, it's your phone (read: tablet), your handheld, and your home console all in one package. It's $300. you can buy a 3DS for $200, a ps4 for $300, and your phone for $200-800 respectively.

I understand it's not as powerful as a ps4, but the ps4 is a traditional console, the Switch isn't. So trade offs happen. You get a much better array of higher quality games than you would on your handheld and phone, along numerous control schemes to fit your comfort. I think the lot of people are just saying POWER POWER POWER, as the reason of it being "too much", but a fun game is a fun game. it just has to be pretty enough, not so much bleeding edge.

It's a very versatile console in a very sleek and compact package. for $300. I'm not sure how it'll do, but I do think the value is there. think of it like everything else with a smaller form factor of a larger counter part. you get less, it costs more, but it's more versatile.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

it's your phone (read: tablet)

how?

 

[Boy Wander]

It really isn't though (well i'm thinking 300 USD). It's a true hybrid, it's your phone (read: tablet), your handheld, and your home console all in one package. It's $300. you can buy a 3DS for $200, a ps4 for $300, and your phone for $200-800 respectively.

I understand it's not as powerful as a ps4, but the ps4 is a traditional console, the Switch isn't. So trade offs happen. You get a much better array of higher quality games than you would on your handheld and phone, along numerous control schemes to fit your comfort. I think the lot of people are just saying POWER POWER POWER, as the reason of it being "too much", but a fun game is a fun game. it just has to be pretty enough, not so much bleeding edge.

It's a very versatile console in a very sleek and compact package. for $300. I'm not sure how it'll do, but I do think the value is there. think of it like everything else with a smaller form factor of a larger counter part. you get less, it costs more, but it's more versatile.

Don't get me wrong - I like it, but I'm kind of in a niche in that I like portable gaming and I like Nintendo games and I don't really care so much about AAA games, third-party support etc.

The big risk with this device from my perspective is that it falls between two stools (and has been actively designed to do so). That in itself runs the risk that it satisfies neither the console crowd, who see it as underpowered and overpriced and lacking in AAA third party support, nor the more casual gamer who doesn't really see why they should drop coin on such a device when they already have an iPad.

One could argue that it may end up finding the exact audience it has targeted - the middle of the Venn diagram between core and casual but hopefully that won't be the case.

 

[AzaK]

Pretty much sums up my negative thoughts on the Switch and why I don't think it'll be a huge success unless they make some serious changes. Can't argue with any of those points.

If I'm being generous I can only assume that this is a soft-launch for Switch. It even sounds like the online isn't fully realised. If this is a full launch, then it's even sadder than I would have ever expected.

The early adopters will ensure sales go well, and given the lack of games those that are there will likely have good attach rates. Then E3 will come where hopefully we'll hear their real roadmap.

 

[Brandon F]

If I'm being generous I can only assume that this is a soft-launch for Switch. It even sounds like the online isn't fully realised. If this is a full launch, then it's even sadder than I would have ever expected.

The early adopters will ensure sales go well, and given the lack of games those that are there will likely have good attach rates. Then E3 will come where hopefully we'll hear their real roadmap.

It definitely is a soft-launch for sure for all the reasons expressed.

Even further is Zelda. There was no way they were going to stagger the launch between the two consoles, nor could they endure holding off the Switch for practically another entire fiscal year if chosen to release in holiday 2017, the Wii U version would also make even less sense at that point. Stockholders and investors would whinge at the decision as well for three fiscal quarters to fill with just 3DS and whatever iOS apps. It wouldn't fly.

Thus, give the dedicated their soft launch in Q1 to enjoy Zelda and a few offerings until things ramp up for a second "launch" in the holiday when the service goes active, Mario is ready(and a bunduru with it or Zelda likely), plus a slightly more developed library. It's a long storm for the hardcore early adopters to weather, but come holiday, it will look more attractive to the rest.

 

[GinoFelino]

It definitely is a soft-launch for sure for all the reasons expressed.

Even further is Zelda. There was no way they were going to stagger the launch between the two consoles, nor could they endure holding off the Switch for practically another entire fiscal year if chosen to release in holiday 2017, the Wii U version would also make even less sense at that point. Stockholders and investors would whinge at the decision as well for three fiscal quarters to fill with just 3DS and whatever iOS apps. It wouldn't fly.

Thus, give the dedicated their soft launch in Q1 to enjoy Zelda and a few offerings until things ramp up for a second "launch" in the holiday when the service goes active, Mario is ready(and a bunduru with it or Zelda likely), plus a slightly more developed library. It's a long storm for the hardcore early adopters to weather, but come holiday, it will look more attractive to the rest.

From the looks of it, that long storm will be really entertaining for people with a second gaming platform besides Switch

One good Switch game a month will be just fine for me.

 

[AzaK]

From the looks of it, that long storm will be really entertaining for people with a second gaming platform besides Switch

One good Switch game a month will be just fine for me.

Yeah if you've got another console and can spare the cash you're sweet but for me the only Switch games announced that I want are Zelda (I have a Wii U already anyway) and Mario, which is end of year. Too high of a price of entry.

 

[Kureransu]

how?

I was referring to the touch screen interface. (I honestly believe there a lot more they haven't revealed to not muddy up the message).

Don't get me wrong - I like it, but I'm kind of in a niche in that I like portable gaming and I like Nintendo games and I don't really care so much about AAA games, third-party support etc.

The big risk with this device from my perspective is that it falls between two stools (and has been actively designed to do so). That in itself runs the risk that it satisfies neither the console crowd, who see it as underpowered and overpriced and lacking in AAA third party support, nor the more casual gamer who doesn't really see why they should drop coin on such a device when they already have an iPad.

One could argue that it may end up finding the exact audience it has targeted - the middle of the Venn diagram between core and casual but hopefully that won't be the case.

oh I share the same worries, I just don't think that's it's a steep price of entry based on what's out on the market.

 

[wanders]

I makes a lot of sense, in fact I think it's one of the most important ones.

wanna explain? 300 for an original piece of kit that's essentially a portable wii u. The portable power that you get for 300 seems very fair. Help me understand