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Even with the EGS exclusivity, Borderlands 3 seems to be 2K`s highest selling PC game on PC.
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kraspkibble
Permabanned.
Disappointing.
Really don't know what else to say. It seems most people just don't care about Epic fucking shit up.
Rockstar make GTA.
Really don't know what else to say. It seems most people just don't care about Epic fucking shit up.
2K don't make GTA....
Rockstar make GTA.
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MMaRsu
Banned
Ofcourse they do. A LOT of people are waiting for Steam release.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
I mean I know people still waiting to play Bloodborne when it hits PC, not sure it means anything, though. I'm def wondering how it does NPD and for the year as whole.
Shagger
Banned
Is Bloodborne coming to PC? Maybe I missed something but I thought it was still a PS exclusive.
Sentenza
Member
I can see you are a goner now, but having played BL2 is precisely why I personally never gave a damn about Borderlands 3.
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harry04
Member
what do you care about?
ethomaz
Banned
That is his point.
People wanting it on PC didn't affect it sales.
People wanting it on Steam didn't affect it sales.
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Shagger
Banned
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thelastword
Banned
One thing I've realized this gen is that every game people pitchfork against for one reason or another, has smashed records...…..
Mortal Kombat 11
Crash bandicoot
Spiderman
Days Gone
and the games hyped to kingdom come....did not.
Evolve
Anthem
Titanfall
Sea of Thieves, Crackdown 3
Mortal Kombat 11
Crash bandicoot
Spiderman
Days Gone
and the games hyped to kingdom come....did not.
Evolve
Anthem
Titanfall
Sea of Thieves, Crackdown 3
Sentenza
Member
It's hilarious how these two contradicting narratives keep clashing with each other.
On one side you have "Weeeh, it's just a noisy minority of complainers" and on the other there is "WEEEEEEEH, TENS AND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DEATH THREATS TO DEVELOPERS IN THE LAST 24 HOURS!".
It seems a bit too convenient for a certain group that both of these could be true at the same time, doesn't it?
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Kazza
Member
Well, in the context of millions of copies being sold, thousands is a small minority.
Shagger
Banned
The problem is the extreme views of anything are the ones that get expressed , exposed and attention and they almost never reflect the views of the majority. And the majority are the people who have less reason to get fired up and scream about it, so they either don't speak up or get drowned out. Unfortunately, it's from this same place whare most of the common sence is to be found, so it's mostly the stupid, beit one side or the other, that get heard.
Happens every time.
Happens every time.
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Sentenza
Member
By the same logic, thousands of people willing to "take action" and writing complaints (sorry... totally credible DEATH THREATS) in a 24 hours span must also be a tiny fraction of the whole amount of people unhappy with it.
Meaning they are either making up bullshit to paint themselves as victims OR that minority must be quite sizable and not that "tiny" at all.
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Spinning records gonna spin.
MMaRsu
Banned
What? How do you know this? Can you give me some solid factual data that says that people who are gladly waiting for the game to come to other stores are actually purchasing it on the epic store?
You cannot so in fact you cannot say if it did or did not in fact affect sales numbers.
GymWolf
Member
Do we know how much days gone selled?
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joe_zazen
Member
thelastword
Banned
No exact figures, but it's position on sales charts and feedback from the devs have been very positive.
Bonfires Down
Member
I didn't even know there was controversy about Crash and Days Gone. And Spiderman was like downgraded puddles? Yeah, nobody cares.
manfestival
Member
wait a second... you know people that actually are waiting unironically for bloodborne to come to PC? simpsonshaha.jpeg
thelastword
Banned
https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/08/08/days-gone-sales-second-best-uk/
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019...ales_of_god_of_war_the_last_guardian_in_japan
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/08/days_gone_is_the_uks_best-selling_new_ip_of_2019
https://segmentnext.com/2019/06/20/days-gone-sales/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidt...so-much-better-than-its-reviews/#69c4d0ec11f0 (A Forbes Joint)
https://twistedvoxel.com/days-gone-seventh-best-selling-game-2019/
V4skunk
Banned
Yes they do.
It just depends who does the boycott.
Ion Maiden game got censored to appease SJW's! The backlash on Steam was insane! Let's just say the censorship was removed 3 days later.
Also Borderlands 2 sold more on Steam than PS and Xbox combined.
When B3 hits Steam in a year it will have a second life.
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nani17
are in a big trouble
EA Marketing Team: You see that? That's money right there. From now on we promote our games on pornhub. Also online modes like ultimate team will get inloved. Player packs will have 2 day pass to pornhub premium but obviously the odds of getting that is 0.4%. Fans will love us
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thelastword
Banned
Dada55000
Member
The meme is 10 fucking years old, get over it. It's like people trotting out the that macro of protags circa 2008 as some sort of gotcha. Has literally 0 relevance.No doubt, Modern Warfare 2 was a classic example,,,,
The MW2 one doubly so, because CoD did lose all the momentum it had on PC a few years after what, Blops 1? By the time Blops2 and Ghosts came out, it was nowhere near its height, and that's directly a result of the consolification starting with MW2, the lack of PC features being the source of the boycott. MW1 used to be the new CS. You'll bring up a dead meme from 2009, but not bring up how things turned out a few years later as a result?
sol_bad
Member
No doubt, Modern Warfare 2 was a classic example,,,,
I know this gets shown a lot but where are the other 801 members?
ethomaz
Banned
It is near Bloodborne in US even being launched this year.
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Explosive Zombie
Banned
Arguing it's 10 years old is a little weird considering we have a current example of a boycotted game doing well. It's interesting to see that even a decade ago this shit didn't work. And man, using Ghosts as proof boycotts work is pretty sad, the game is considered the worst entry. What does as a result mean in this context? Ghosts was bad AS A RESULT of a failed boycott? Weird logic.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Highest selling for the first 5 days past the launch as they clarified, but it's being recycled without the clarification by the usual EGS fanboys (like implying it already surpassed the lifetime sales of all their other PC games in 5 days). Not that it matters either way, nobody said an AAA game with an AAA marketing campaign won't sell because of the choice of store, there are other issues at play (and plenty of the issues were experienced by Borderlands 3 players too, it just didn't affect the marketing hype and therefor the sales). Equating the success of any Borderlands 3 (with no knowledge of its potential success had it not been exclusive anyway) with somehow nulifying every other non-AAA related argument against EGS is just a straw man argument and, again, something only fanboys do. Corporate apologists are weird, lol.
Boycotts work, when they actually happen on a large scale. Read some history. 100 people saying they won't buy the game doesn't equal an organized boycott (nor is an open group anyone could join like that Call of Duty group somehow proof that the - still insignificant in numbers - people who said they wouldn't buy the game bought it in the end, as people always intending to buy the game could have just as easily joined the group for laughs, duh). People don't generally call their decision to not buy stuff without said organized large scale a boycott, that only happens online I guess, lol.
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thelastword
Banned
Yet Blops 1 was one of the best COD game of all times.....Of all times.....
Most Probably playing Advanced Warfare 2
.....I don't think it would be possible to place all 833 members in one screen......So the point was made with one page....
sol_bad
Member
Yet Blops 1 was one of the best COD game of all times.....Of all times.....
Most Probably playing Advanced Warfare 2
I think you know what I mean, the other 803 people probably never played the game.
Dada55000
Member
Great argument. "Shitpost.jpeg is relevant because it shows a thing. The context and results of this thing doesn't matter because later game sucked lol."
And your Ghosts complaint is backwards. Read the phrase "by the time", y'know 'cus I'm talking about a frame of time here, in my original post. Implying a continuous drop in popularity over a period of time. Releases of games being references in time. The game is not used as an example for successful boycott. "buh Ghosts is bad", good for you, that's not what was said.
Speaking of boycott, I didn't say the boycott did that either. You would know this if you didn't fall over yourself to shit out a response, and instead read what I wrote. I said the 'cause of the boycott, the removal of PC specific features, had a longterm effect of driving away people on PC, which can be seen in its decreasing popularity over the years that followed. The point being that the original issue, that creates a boycott, can itself be such a problem that it has devestating long term results, even if it at first glance it seems to not do anything.
The only weird logic here is your complete inabilty to even comphrehend what you are responding to, while at the same time thinking you have a valid rebuttal and being smug about it. That's called 'embarrassing'.
nah, Blops 1 got propped up because of MW2/IW hate at the time, it's fine, but nowhere near what people pretend it to be
Explosive Zombie
Banned
Modern Warfare 3 had, at the time, the biggest day 1 sales of any video game ever. That was after Modern Warfare 2 if you're bad at numbers and not even the year after. Next year's game, BLOPS ll, the game before Ghosts took that record from MW 3 having the biggest day 1 launch ever AGAIN. And then let's get to Ghosts "Despite shipping $1 billion worth of units to retail channels within 24 hours of the game's launch, overall sales were down compared to 2012's Call of Duty: Black Ops II. Activision blamed the fall in demand on uncertainty caused by the upcoming transition to eighth generation consoles. "
Dada55000
Member
thanks, you just proved you don't read before responding
we were talking about PC, only PC, boycott was on PC, about PC features, and the long term effect of lacking PC features on PC CoD popularity, on PC
your response was about overall sales, with hyperlinks to consoles
I am astounded, mainly because this is your second response, and it seemed like you had a grasp on the PC part in your first one
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Explosive Zombie
Banned
Are you going to link us any proof specifically on PC games like BLOPS II and Modern Warfare 3 were failures? Or should we just take your word for it? And even if it flopped on PC the argument is sort of a wash when both games sold more copies than ever before despite that isn't it? You have zero proof any boycott impacted CoD in anyway, Ghosts flopped because it was bad and Infinite Warfare had trouble because people were mad about it being futuristic again. I would like to see if you're capable of finding isolated PC sales numbers, though, to prove your bad point.
Kenpachii
Member
Nobody cares about clients on PC, pc gamers never did.
Those steam overlords living in a delusional bubble as usual try to make up cult like reasons why things are happening is just funny to read.
Biggest games on PC never where on steam. PC gaming exists out of endless clients already from day one of online gaming.
This isn't surprising.
Those steam overlords living in a delusional bubble as usual try to make up cult like reasons why things are happening is just funny to read.
Biggest games on PC never where on steam. PC gaming exists out of endless clients already from day one of online gaming.
This isn't surprising.
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Dada55000
Member
lol, demands proof of thing -> says thing doesn't matter, gg booh
I think you preemted that one buddy, your mind is clearly made up so why would anyone respond to your impotent demands
you're coming across really schizo, you went from demanding sales, to saying the topic, PC, doesn't matter because consoles sales, to saying bad sales overall don't count because blank
and you're the only one talking sales, me saying CoD lost popularity on PC after MW2 is like saying water is wet
speaking sales you're the one that linked Ghosts making a billion, and now you're calling it a flop, boy you sure changed your mind at the drop of a hat, despite your own research
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sol_bad
Member
Someone pointed out that Monster Hunter had a higher peak count at release on Steam than what Borderlands 3 did on EGS. This should not be true, Borderlands 3 should have easily wiped the floor with Monster Hunter as it's a much more well known franchise on PC. It's pretty easy to find out peak players for Steam, not so easy for EGS.
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Coflash
Member
Modern Warfare 2 example: That's 833 people in a pool of millions, and not all of them are playing it. It was never indicative of anything.
Borderlands 3: Until we have actual numbers for PC sales, why is anyone believing anything 2K says? What else are they going to say when they don't have to quote stats? "Our game is selling poorly, we totally regret out EGS exclusivity deal" - or what? I'm surprised anyone is even paying attention to them.
In a few years we'll be able to look back and see if all of these deals were worth it and how they worked out. But one thing we'll never know is just how much they would have sold if they were available on all PC launchers at the time of release.
Borderlands 3: Until we have actual numbers for PC sales, why is anyone believing anything 2K says? What else are they going to say when they don't have to quote stats? "Our game is selling poorly, we totally regret out EGS exclusivity deal" - or what? I'm surprised anyone is even paying attention to them.
In a few years we'll be able to look back and see if all of these deals were worth it and how they worked out. But one thing we'll never know is just how much they would have sold if they were available on all PC launchers at the time of release.
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