bigwinnerx
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Witcher 3 writing is like a NaNoWriMo novel. I like the game but whooooo boy. It is trying to hit 50,000 words by December 1st.
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Fallout 4 has gone gold; leaked gameplay vids
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That is a very narrow way of looking at it. Yes you can make a pile of buckets in a street, and that would be completely irrelevant to the world, but who decided to make a pile of buckets? You did. You don't make it if you don't ever think to, you just naturally play the game as it was meant to be played and still see the advantages of items and bits and pieces being tangible in the world.
I can't believe I live in a world where people are criticizing Witcher 3's writing in a fucking Bethesda thread. Holy shit. If Witcher 3 is NaNoWriMo level, then anything Bethesda touches is a lazy 10 year old just trying to hand something in for his homework he just couldn't give a fuck about.
Hero Prinny
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i dont get it
SwimDramaGender
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Witcher 3's writing is shit. I fall asleep playing this shitty game with terrible story and ballet dancing sword fights. Fallout 3's story is about 5 billion times better than this Assassin's Creed wannabe where you spend the whole game connecting dots on your map and talking with single dimensional characters that have no personalities whatsoever.
Someone or something is getting locked in the fridge. I don't really get it either.
Hero Prinny
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BattleMonkey
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It looks just like a faster paced playing Fallout 3/NV. So this looks great so far.
mumbles365
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This.
Witcher's writing was amazing as far as I am concerned.
Really disappointed to hear about the dialogue criticisms in Fallout 4, dialogue in an rpg game can really make or break it when it comes to world building and immersiveness
Locked someone out by closing the door
No idea if it's supposed to be some sort of a joke though lol
Unbound By Death
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Ah, here you are. Haven't you had enough of White knighting Bethesda?
oh so i can't get perks in the beginning? ok thanks, time to plan my build
No, just SPECIAL for level 1. Also, you technically get 28 points, but you can't go lower than 1, so you get 21 points to play with.
SwimDramaGender
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It shows that even a 50 years old game has more map interactivity than Witcher 3. I have to say I laughed because its so true.
Your mod-avoiding skills are unparalleled
Hahaha
I have to admit some of these posts are actually pretty funny
disappeared
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Oh shit this thread.
Am I missing some sarcasm or something?
I mean I realize different strokes for different folks, and I can see why people might even like Fallout 3 more than Witcher 3, but come on.
Bethesda writing isn't amazing agreed, but I object to W3 being the shining example here.
For example, Bloody Baron is quite scatterbrained with different subplots that don't mesh coherently, while maintaining very flimsy link to main plotline.
ClaptoVaughn
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In early Tomb Raider games, you could explore Lara's mansion and her butler would follow her around carrying a tray of food or something. In that GIF, Lara slammed the door on the poor old guy and you see parts of him clipping through it.
I think if you tried to shoot him, he would deflect the bullets with his tray.
As I said it is nice to have, provided that they don't skimp on other areas. People have used the existence of this stuff as an excuse to not improve on the other areas of Bethesda games.
For example, if having the ability to dump objects in the street is the reason why they haven't changed their engine in years then I clearly think priorities are wrong.
oh so i can't get perks in the beginning? ok thanks, time to plan my build
Yep. At start of the game you only customize your appearance and decide SPECIAL spread. By using that chart look up perks you would like to pick up as you level up and start planning SPECIAL points accordingly. First perk can be unlocked when you get first level up.
GavinUK86
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Wow androids of the future are amazing
Am I missing some sarcasm or something?
I mean I realize different strokes for different folks, and I can see why people might even like Fallout 3 more than Witcher 3, but come on.
That one you can safely ignore. Enjoy those posts for what they are.
Tinfoil hat says that it is a mod trolling us. The account did show up during Halloween.
Shadax the wizard
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Does anyone know when we can expect the first reviews?
GavinUK86
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No because that's already been beaten to death.
Yeah fine, but has it been proven that a world that looks as graphically good as Witcher can handle the sort of stuff that Skyrim can do without serious performance issues?
The line here is clearly one side values these unique virtues of Bethesda's games and the other half just couldn't care less. This can only end in an agree to disagree situation but good luck with that on GAF. I just find it interesting that Obsidian got away with using the exact same engine just because they happened to have better writers. Modding that game to make it visually decent seemed to be welcomed, where here it is an argument to criticize.
SwimDramaGender
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This.
Witcher's writing was amazing as far as I am concerned.
Really disappointed to hear about the dialogue criticisms in Fallout 4, dialogue in an rpg game can really make or break it when it comes to world building and immersiveness
Ballet dancing 3 with batman has about as much immersion as the plumber who jumps on mushrooms with eyes and shoots fireballs out of his hands.
Yep!
Bl@de
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How much better is it than the story of Fallout 1/2?
I can argue about how the Bloody Baron and it's subplots mesh with each other just fine and how it is relevant to the main quest
But that's another topic for another time
JetBlackPanda
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This is how it goes for every new game these days, there is always a bastion thread of hype with reasonable posters and then 3-4 hate threads out there every couple days and it gets worse and worse closer to launch. I was a bigger fan of OTs going up a week early but whatever.
That is precisely why I like NV. Bethesda doesn't get a pass on bad writing and consequence when using this engine, because Obsidian proved that both can be true.
You are golden, Sir.
Yeah sure great, I love it too, but try and play that game vanilla. It's impossible. It looks hideous. Obsidian made the modders work necessary.
And yet it's okay for them because they have Chris Avellone? They could have told Bethesda they weren't interested in making it unless it was brought up to standard visually yet they didn't, because they saw the tools that Bethesda provided them and knew they could still make a great game out of it.
Well hopefully soon. Some will be playing this game on the 8th thanks to VPNs. Hopefully we'll get the ok to start the OT then.
Darryl M R
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Nice, thanks for sharing this is much easier to view.
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Also why aren't a lot of people doing Endurance builds? Endurance seems crazy OP.
Fractology
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I can't help but shake a bad feeling about this. I'm sure it'll be alright...but I'm just waiting for the mainstream opinion to shit on this for being "more of the same." It DOES look like more of the same...and not in a good way. It seriously looks like a last gen game ported onto the new consoles, game mechanics and all. The super mutants even have the same voice samples for Christ's sake.
I'm just thinking about my brother who is not a big gamer but for whatever reason played and loved the hell out of Fallout 3 and New Vegas. He has a PS4 and maybe 2 games for it...he's been waiting very patiently for this game and I can just tell that he's going to boot it up wanting to be wowed by it and be pretty severely disappointed. The hardcore Fallout fans will probably be ok, but the broader audience of these games will probably feel short-changed. We've been spoiled this year already by MGSV and Witcher 3 (though I have my own qualms with Witcher). I'm getting the sinking feeling that the industry has evolved pretty dramatically beyond the Bethesda model in the time of this games development.
I'm just thinking about my brother who is not a big gamer but for whatever reason played and loved the hell out of Fallout 3 and New Vegas. He has a PS4 and maybe 2 games for it...he's been waiting very patiently for this game and I can just tell that he's going to boot it up wanting to be wowed by it and be pretty severely disappointed. The hardcore Fallout fans will probably be ok, but the broader audience of these games will probably feel short-changed. We've been spoiled this year already by MGSV and Witcher 3 (though I have my own qualms with Witcher). I'm getting the sinking feeling that the industry has evolved pretty dramatically beyond the Bethesda model in the time of this games development.
Just a simple request, could you come up with some more unique insults than "ballet dancing?" I mean if you're going to shit post, at least be inventive with it.
MadClacker
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I don't want to set the world on fire, I'm just a wanderer, I roam around around around around around around around around around around around around around around around around around around.
That and the way Bethesda Softworks generally screwed them over. The general crappiness that the game shipped in is less damning in that light.
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