Wiggum2007
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Samurai Penguin said:
Aaaah I hate this! I don't remember it ever happening in FO3.
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Fallout New Vegas |OT| Obsidian does what Bethesdon't
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Aaaah I hate this! I don't remember it ever happening in FO3.
Samurai Penguin
Member
Yeah. I am 70 hours or so in FO3 and it never happened once. Yet I am almost 40 hours in FO: NV and it happens everytime I play it since I got it on launch >.<
Please fix this shit Obsidian
Please fix this shit Obsidian
Finished this earlier this evening. Glad to say I am saying goodbye to this glitchy, crashy mess. I loved some of the story and characters, but what a terrible ending and I think I was crashing every 30 mins. It started out so well too, playing on 360, and I was totally adapting to the game's (at the time) minor glitches, but near the end I was just loathing it and I wanted to be done.
- Gun glitch. Got over it. but come on.
- Quests glitches. At least 4 quests led me to NPC that did nothing.
- Ceaser's tent. Wouldn't let me enter because I had a companion following me. Rex was no where to be found. He was lost... somewhere.. glitching. Lost hours looking for him in previous saves.
- One of my companions sprinted into the distance once I left a shack. Never came back. Couldn't pick up another because they kept saying I have too many. Came down the stairs in Vault 22, and there she was. What. The. Fuck.
- I don't remember Fallout 3 being so goofy with swearing. You run into a Fiend, he's a swearing asshole.. I get it. But sometimes Cass would suddenly turn weird and swear up a storm out of nowhere. It's like the developers ran through the dialog and though it needed more 'edge'.
I liked a lot of what the game had to offer, despite my rant. The voice work by Rene Auberjonois as Mr House was great, the companions were actually useful this time too and the factions will make for great re-playability.
Or they would have if I had the desire to play this game again. Maybe in a few months I'll give it another shot on PC. This game shouldn't have shipped in it's current state.
Whew. That was cathartic!
- Gun glitch. Got over it. but come on.
- Quests glitches. At least 4 quests led me to NPC that did nothing.
- Ceaser's tent. Wouldn't let me enter because I had a companion following me. Rex was no where to be found. He was lost... somewhere.. glitching. Lost hours looking for him in previous saves.
- One of my companions sprinted into the distance once I left a shack. Never came back. Couldn't pick up another because they kept saying I have too many. Came down the stairs in Vault 22, and there she was. What. The. Fuck.
- I don't remember Fallout 3 being so goofy with swearing. You run into a Fiend, he's a swearing asshole.. I get it. But sometimes Cass would suddenly turn weird and swear up a storm out of nowhere. It's like the developers ran through the dialog and though it needed more 'edge'.
I liked a lot of what the game had to offer, despite my rant. The voice work by Rene Auberjonois as Mr House was great, the companions were actually useful this time too and the factions will make for great re-playability.
Or they would have if I had the desire to play this game again. Maybe in a few months I'll give it another shot on PC. This game shouldn't have shipped in it's current state.
Whew. That was cathartic!
Lionheart1827
Member
Alright I got a bit of an issue, I'm not sure if its a glitch or what but I'm pretty much fucked.
I'm about 66 hours into the game, recently hit level 30 and throughout the game I've been idolized by the NCR. I start doing missions in the brotherhood of steel so I can see if I can wear power armor. I do the missions etc etc get the training. So I decide to start doing the main quest again (ring a ding ding/ house always wins) and I go into the 2nd section of the strip(with the tops and the ultra luxe i think) and all of a sudden, the NCR mps automatically attack me. Thinking, "ok I have power armor on, maybe they dont like that."
So I reload my save and take off the armor, they still come after anyway. I reload my save, go to my pipboy to check my factions, and NCR is nowhere listed at all, neither is caesars legion. I read that going to the NCR ambassador and doing his missions will bring your fame back up. But by the time I get to the ambassador and get his missions in my log, they automatically fail as soon as one of the damn MPs touch me. I even tried going in with NCR armor on and if you get close to any of the MPs they start attacking anyway.
The weird thing is my friend did the same BoS missions I did and got the power armor and nothing happened to his affiliation with the NCR. I dont get what happened here. Am I fucked? Is there anyway to get their affiliation back up?
I'm about 66 hours into the game, recently hit level 30 and throughout the game I've been idolized by the NCR. I start doing missions in the brotherhood of steel so I can see if I can wear power armor. I do the missions etc etc get the training. So I decide to start doing the main quest again (ring a ding ding/ house always wins) and I go into the 2nd section of the strip(with the tops and the ultra luxe i think) and all of a sudden, the NCR mps automatically attack me. Thinking, "ok I have power armor on, maybe they dont like that."
So I reload my save and take off the armor, they still come after anyway. I reload my save, go to my pipboy to check my factions, and NCR is nowhere listed at all, neither is caesars legion. I read that going to the NCR ambassador and doing his missions will bring your fame back up. But by the time I get to the ambassador and get his missions in my log, they automatically fail as soon as one of the damn MPs touch me. I even tried going in with NCR armor on and if you get close to any of the MPs they start attacking anyway.
The weird thing is my friend did the same BoS missions I did and got the power armor and nothing happened to his affiliation with the NCR. I dont get what happened here. Am I fucked? Is there anyway to get their affiliation back up?
Lionheart1827
Member
Jerk 2.0 said:
Nope I have Cass with me. The other weird thing is I dont have Brotherhood of steel in my pipboy faction list either, and I know I'm accepted with them. I'm starting to think that something got glitched up, which doesnt surprise me with this games track record.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
watership said:
Well Cass is a drunk and you were hunting shitheads.
Lionheart1827
Member
Ok so I managed to talk to the ncr ambassador and complete the first mission and now I'm "Accepted" under NCR. I just killed all of the MPs that were attacking me and then went to talk to him for the mission. Problem is, I'm STILL getting attacked by NCR wherever I go, and now I'm vilified at the strip. I really dont understand whats going on. Great.
EDIT: Reloaded my save again, went back to my safehouse and pulled out my BoS power armor. Equipped it: says "You are now dressed as a brotherhood of steel member." Exited out of pipboy, checked affiliations, still NCR is not there. Took off armor says: "you are no longer dressed as a BoS member." Went out of pipboy and back in, checked my affiliations: SUCCESS, all my affiliations are back to normal. Now I think what happened is I was wearing the armor at one point and as it was equipped and the affiliations were changed, I put it into the cabinet/fridge/dresser and that kept my BoS member affiliation with me. Bad programming I guess.
EDIT: Reloaded my save again, went back to my safehouse and pulled out my BoS power armor. Equipped it: says "You are now dressed as a brotherhood of steel member." Exited out of pipboy, checked affiliations, still NCR is not there. Took off armor says: "you are no longer dressed as a BoS member." Went out of pipboy and back in, checked my affiliations: SUCCESS, all my affiliations are back to normal. Now I think what happened is I was wearing the armor at one point and as it was equipped and the affiliations were changed, I put it into the cabinet/fridge/dresser and that kept my BoS member affiliation with me. Bad programming I guess.
cmonmanreally
Member
So did that last patch do anything for the game? Or is this thread just misleading due to the unfortunate few of you who are still experiencing bugs? I picked up the game on Black Friday but haven't played it yet since I've been out of the country and was really looking forward to a fixed game by the time I got back.
Lionheart1827 said:
It might have something to do with the type of Brotherhood armour that you are wearing. I know I had a similar problem, there are two variations and one classes you as a faction member whilst the other doesn't, odd but it happens.
So frustrating when I forgot to change my outfit before jumping to an NCR outpost after completing "You'll know it when it happens" instantly got attacked, annoying especially as I had no helmet on, they should know these things! :lol
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
cmonmanreally said:
It fixed some stuff for me on the 360 versions, but it still doesn't run that great. Game may even lock up more for me after the patch than before.
Lionheart1827
Member
Watanabe Kazuma said:
Thats probably what it was. When you get the training they give you brotherhood power armor and automatically put it on you. I picked up some regular T45 power armor as well, but the one they gave me automatically changed my affiliations. *sigh* Crisis averted. :lol
ChoklitReign
Member
What the fuuuuuuck? I've been playing this all day on my laptop on power saver battery settings (plugged in of course) and haven't had any performance problems whatsoever. I'd even say performance was great (high settings w/o AA). Is my laptop a miracle worker or will I see super performance improvements when I change it? Silly of me to post, but I thought it was a Fuck Yeah moment.
cmonmanreally
Member
Count of Monte Sawed-Off said:
That's pretty unfortunate. I played the hell out of Fallout 3 without running into any bugs or glitches. Here's to hoping that another fix comes in soon.
Carl said:
Pretty much, the more you play the longer loading takes I have found. This makes the game nearly unplayable in places like Freeside and Hoover Dam where most of the quests are just a maze of loading screens as everything is always behind multiple doors.
For this reason I can only play it in short bursts at the moment, I have done all the multiple ending paths so can now get back to uncovering all of the Mojave!
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Gah, man. Regarding "There Stands the Grass".
Also, give Veronica some Brotherhood armor and she's a fucking BEAST. I barely have to do any actual fighting anymore. :lol
Surviving the explosion in Vault 22 is such a bitch. I thought you were able to hide in the back of the data room across from the vents and not take any damage? Even with the door closed, I still took fatal damage, despite the fact that the explosion didn't reach into the room. Only way I survived is by hotkeying Stimpaks and wasting like 8 of the damn things. Oddly enough, Veronica was in the same room as me, CLOSER to the door, and took no damage. What the fucking hell.
Also, give Veronica some Brotherhood armor and she's a fucking BEAST. I barely have to do any actual fighting anymore. :lol
Seraphis Cain said:
You're not wrong, she is so powerful.
I remember thinking early on when I recruited her "Oh great, a melee fighter in Fallout, this will end well" the next enemy I encountered she promptly ran over and punched it to death, that was me firmly put in my place :lol
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
The only thing I hate about having Veronica around is that sometimes I won't even know there's an enemy nearby, then out of nowhere BOOOOOOM, and it switches to the close-up of an enemy getting their head punched off.
Never fails to scare the shit outta me. :lol
Never fails to scare the shit outta me. :lol
Just beat it the other day for the fourth time - all endings complete plus 1 hardcore run, and Dead Money runs.
During all my playthroughs, I'd say I averaged 4 lockups, and 1 potentially game breaking glitch - but since I was used to saving all the time, the lockups really weren't that big of a deal.
The biggest gamebreaker was in my first playthrough (of course), when I had little experience with the game. Basically, no matter what I did, Caesar's Legion was hostile towards me, even if I ditched Boone: and I had to meet Caesar for a major story quest involving Mr. House.
So basically, even though my character wasn't combat oriented at the time, I had to run through the entire Legion camp, grab something, and run out to complete my main story questline - it took me two hours.
Other than that, it was a great experience. The writing, IMO, is superior to Fallout 3, and the stock ending, although lame in the regard that it ends an open world game, is HEAPS better than Fallout 3's (I mean, the Legate is ten times better than Colonel Autumn, who goes down in one shot!).
@Veronica
She was the last companion I ever picked up to mess around with, but she was pretty awesome. I was always a fan of Boone and his godly sniper damage - especially in Hardcore mode, where melee fighters can die easily, and once they die, they're gone forever.
During all my playthroughs, I'd say I averaged 4 lockups, and 1 potentially game breaking glitch - but since I was used to saving all the time, the lockups really weren't that big of a deal.
The biggest gamebreaker was in my first playthrough (of course), when I had little experience with the game. Basically, no matter what I did, Caesar's Legion was hostile towards me, even if I ditched Boone: and I had to meet Caesar for a major story quest involving Mr. House.
So basically, even though my character wasn't combat oriented at the time, I had to run through the entire Legion camp, grab something, and run out to complete my main story questline - it took me two hours.
Other than that, it was a great experience. The writing, IMO, is superior to Fallout 3, and the stock ending, although lame in the regard that it ends an open world game, is HEAPS better than Fallout 3's (I mean, the Legate is ten times better than Colonel Autumn, who goes down in one shot!).
@Veronica
She was the last companion I ever picked up to mess around with, but she was pretty awesome. I was always a fan of Boone and his godly sniper damage - especially in Hardcore mode, where melee fighters can die easily, and once they die, they're gone forever.
More or less all the companions are a liability in Hardcore mode. Whenever I was just wondering the Mojave I would take them with me but when I would carry on with the story, especially towards the end I would go solo as it was too difficult to keep them alive.
The Legion were a big no-no for me with companions, they just can't handle melee combat properly, the enemies quickly become too powerful and large in numbers for them to survive.
The Legion were a big no-no for me with companions, they just can't handle melee combat properly, the enemies quickly become too powerful and large in numbers for them to survive.
Nearly at Level 25. Looking for some more quests to do before beginning Act 3. It's a bit of a problem because the NCR hates me and there are sooooo many quests that originate with them.
Some of the late game weaponry is pretty great though. I'm loving the 12.7mm submachine gun, the Trail Carbine the Anti-Material - to say nothing of the explosive weapons. That's what is keeping the game fresh.
Some of the late game weaponry is pretty great though. I'm loving the 12.7mm submachine gun, the Trail Carbine the Anti-Material - to say nothing of the explosive weapons. That's what is keeping the game fresh.
I'm 53 hours in and its starting to wear on me a bit. I'm almost level 24, I had thought to go for the level 30 achievement but now... I'm ready to confront Benny at the Tops after I finish up Volaire quest lines. Does anyone know how much experiencing I'm still looking at? Can I make to 30 just doing the main story line from now on?
Dorrin said:
53 hours in and confronting Benny? Holy shit! That's usually at the 5-6 hour mark.
Yea, you have around 6-8 hours left of the main game, regardless of who's storyline you wish to fulfill. If memory serves me correctly, the Yes Man's questline is the shortest, followed by Mr. House.
Mr Killemgood
Member
I find it interesting that the speech checks for confronting Benny point toward being level 5-6 when meeting him.
By the time I met him, I too was at ~50hrs in and around level 26 or 27. I don't understand how you could just randomly go to the Tops, and not explore all the great areas around New Vegas first.
By the time I met him, I too was at ~50hrs in and around level 26 or 27. I don't understand how you could just randomly go to the Tops, and not explore all the great areas around New Vegas first.
This is how I do every open world game:
I do enough of the main quest where I'm happy with where I want my character to be, THEN I go willy nilly, and literally explore every single area in the entire game. I'm OCD: I want my character to have a decent revolver - I wanted to find an area, that ended up being Gun Runners, where I could go back and get revolver ammo when I wanted it - I wanted a duster - I wanted to find "my" companion.
So I ended up getting the Mysterious Magnum, Boone, and Ranger Veteran Armor, and I was in heaven. Usually, the main questline is the easiest way to level up/get to the point I am comfortable with.
I can't speak for everyone else though.
I do enough of the main quest where I'm happy with where I want my character to be, THEN I go willy nilly, and literally explore every single area in the entire game. I'm OCD: I want my character to have a decent revolver - I wanted to find an area, that ended up being Gun Runners, where I could go back and get revolver ammo when I wanted it - I wanted a duster - I wanted to find "my" companion.
So I ended up getting the Mysterious Magnum, Boone, and Ranger Veteran Armor, and I was in heaven. Usually, the main questline is the easiest way to level up/get to the point I am comfortable with.
I can't speak for everyone else though.
electricpirate
Member
Wow, As soon as I hit Freeside I went exporing nuts . Haha, Maybe I'll go run over to Benny now before it gets too late (level 20).
. Haha, Maybe I'll go run over to Benny now before it gets too late (level 20).
Gorgon
Member
Could anyone tell me how this game compares to FO3? I'm not so much interested in the mechanical improvements and little teeks, but more on quality of the storyline, the written dialogue, choices/consequences, etc. Seying how many people were expecting this game to be such an improvement above Bethesda's version because it was from Obsidian, I'm curious to know how it actually turned out. Thanks.
EDIT: I'm really just trying to avoid reading through the entire thread when I just want a few, brief, unbiased comparisons.
EDIT: I'm really just trying to avoid reading through the entire thread when I just want a few, brief, unbiased comparisons.
Guys I have a problem. I'm using the PC version so it should be able to be fixed.
I'm trying to go to Caesar's Legion but I can't go in since they hate me so much. I have tried using a disguise and setting my reputation to idolized but they still seem to attack me. What should I do?
HadesGigas
Member
(._.) said:
Are you bringing Boone with you? That's a no-no.
HadesGigas
Member
(._.) said:
I dunno.
Did you go along far enough in the main quest so you got the Mark of Caesar? That should keep them from attacking you.
HadesGigas
Member
(._.) said:
It's given to you on the strip when you exit a casino once you've paid a visit to Mr. House, it should be in your misc inventory as an undroppable item.
Gorgon said:
Better writing.
Companions that follow you the entire game.
More glitches.
Less interesting places to visit/less "big" quests - things are more nuanced in New Vegas.
More "western" gunplay as opposed to Fallout 3's "post apoc/laser" weapons. Same goes for the armor.
A more robust crafting system.
The ability to turn on or off "wacky encounters" like Fallout 3's crashed alien ship - you have the option of having a more serious experience, or a goofier one.
Same "it ends when it ends" ending - however, instead of having one real ending with a minor choice at the end, you get FOUR different distinct ways to progress and end the game.
Better overall plan for intertwining DLC packs.
afternoon delight
Member
- Locations that offer more than one quest, but define themselves with the people involved moreso than "I did that quest there". Most places have many people with many problems or unique dialogs.
- Faction system. Your actions towards local groups vying for life in the Mojave Wasteland effect how you're seen. Help one group and its enemies dislike you, harm another and balance it, something like eight shades of "reputation" that range from good to bad to neutral to little bit of both, depending on you.
- As opposed to having Speech and Charisma opening dialog options, all dialog options are open with characters. As a result, there's more req's for advanced discussion, but you're allowed to see it. Also, it destroys FO3's system of "I hope I just have enough Charisma or Speech to make this person do their unique Speech Bonus" to unlock things in quests. Probably my favorite addition.
- Crafting custom ammo, food from the land, weapons, items, modifications for weapons, ammo types for each weapons.
- Stats re-write. You will more than likely not be able to make a character that is great at a LOT of things, which means character builds are truly that - objective based on playthrough. I know some people on here either find all of the stat books or look them up on the internet, but to be honest, in 70 hours of playthrough I've found four of them.
- Think more "civilization" than "ruins". There are plenty of people and sanctioned areas of control.
Gorgon said:Thanks, that was helpful
Also, an added Hardcore mode that offers a different experience to, well, hardcore gamers, haha. You have to eat, drink, and sleep periodically, and there are other nuances like ammo has weight.
And no problem. It took me an entire playthrough to warm up to Fallout 3 - I wasn't truly enjoying it until my second time around. But it only took around 2 hours for me to warm up to New Vegas.
Gorgon
Member
Thanks to all for the imput. I enjoyed FO3 quite a bit, especially because I've been extremely tired of the usual dwarfs n' elves derivative settings of most western RPGs especially by Bioware and Bethesda. However I wasn't really thinking about diping into FO:NV unless there was a clear improvement in aproach to the game, especially the dialogue and storyline quality. I will probably dip for this one now.
Thank you all for the imput.
Thank you all for the imput.
BobTheFork
Member
:lol I do have a problem with how buggy these games can be but occasionally you get a bug that makes it all worth it.
Right now I'm running around with my character in their underwear with a red beret on (female character) I warped back into Goodsprings and got nailed by a squad of legionaries. So when I reload, all 5-6 of them reloaded with me and are now in the middle of the desert away from the town, all in thier underwear as well, and they have the same health they had when I died. They seem just as confused about the situation as me.
Right now I'm running around with my character in their underwear with a red beret on (female character) I warped back into Goodsprings and got nailed by a squad of legionaries. So when I reload, all 5-6 of them reloaded with me and are now in the middle of the desert away from the town, all in thier underwear as well, and they have the same health they had when I died. They seem just as confused about the situation as me.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Quick question - on the PC, is there an easy way to get companion quests to open up with some kind of mod or editor?