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February 2015 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes March 10th
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zomgbbqftw
Banned
Sad to see you go Aquamarine. I learned when I had access to NPD and GfK data last year not to leak. It wasn't worth the hassle. I hope everything at work isn't an issue, even for senior level people I know it has been a problem with threats for the firm to be cut off. That was what I was told when I pushed my old company to subscribe to the data. Hope you can come back one day.
Meh, this industry disgusts me where they try to nickel and dime you for every little thing, release broken unfinished products with expensive DLC and season-passes on empty promises. Where youtubers/people on twitter are way more popular than game-developers. To me it feels like the focus of those most involved/in the spotlight is all about money. Its a shame because numbers were always widely provided 6 years back. It wouldnt be to far off to guess some game-company or a combination of companys have urged NPD and the like to not share numbers in any form with the general public because it may harm their pr.
Sorry for coming off a little edgy, but now with another insider gone it just makes me a little mad. Just how many potentially negative sources which may harm their PR in the slightest will they track down? Do they want to controll every little thing? I no longer trust most of the websites regarding reviews. Luckily gaf is still here.
Sorry for coming off a little edgy, but now with another insider gone it just makes me a little mad. Just how many potentially negative sources which may harm their PR in the slightest will they track down? Do they want to controll every little thing? I no longer trust most of the websites regarding reviews. Luckily gaf is still here.
Yaser Tech
Member
You will be missed aqua, I always look for your posts.
DarthWalden
Banned
[3DS] 180K
[PS4] 245K
[XB1] 210K
[WIU] 45K
[PS4] 245K
[XB1] 210K
[WIU] 45K
Chezzymann
Member
Well, I don't really care about NPD anymore. They're basically worthless since the numbers are 100% censored to the public now. I'd imagine GAF NPD threads will take a dramatic hit in popularity as well.
DustyVonEric
Member
Good luck, Aqua! Sorry to see you go.
Still sour how the hidden email tag system was done away with, but I understand why.
If those NPD ninjas are on you like that, I'd cool it with talks of super secret bases.
Some gaffers with allegiances elsewhere (like chartz) will spread that info with no thought of the consequences to you. It happened before last time you were banned.
Take care of yourself. Hope to hear from you again, in one form or another.
Still sour how the hidden email tag system was done away with, but I understand why.
If those NPD ninjas are on you like that, I'd cool it with talks of super secret bases.
Some gaffers with allegiances elsewhere (like chartz) will spread that info with no thought of the consequences to you. It happened before last time you were banned.
Take care of yourself. Hope to hear from you again, in one form or another.
pixelation
Member
Welp, that settles that. Peace out, y'all. I'll watch from the sidelines too.
GL with the new gig, Aqua.
What!?... you leaving us too galactic cheese-oh?...
On what basis?
sadly, i agree... though the insight and numbers were gold
Why do you guys think this?
wtf is wrong with both of you. At least say thank you to Aqua or something rather than trying to be attention seekers.
This story makes sense to me as I've seen it first hand in my job. People were almost sacked and forced to delete posts/accounts for leaking confidential information on the internet from other organisations that we worked with. Whilst it's not the same thing it's very similar and this is a much smaller company than NPD. (Still global company though)
Please tell me you are calling bullshit on NPD being assholes and not that Aqua is making all that shit up.
Anyway sucks Aqua you were awesome I don't know why they wouldn't let you at least participate with the community without leaks. Anyway your job and life are more important than this so you made the right choice lurking ain't so bad so at least you still get to enjoy some of the fun.
BrokenIcarus
Member
I think (hope) what they mean, is that it's bullshit to give ultimatums for such a stupid reason.
I don't buy an intense back and forth between NPD management and a JPMorgan employee. Just doesn't seem plausible that you'd continue to post numbers after you were found out, especially if they confronted your employer. Maybe it's true, just doesn't pass the smell test to me, so I'll just back off since obviously I can't prove anything either way and a mod hasn't verified the post.
lightning2k3
Member
Just go away. Don't bring this shit here.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
I've personally had the NPD threats, I have no reason to doubt this story. Part of the reason I never went public with where I used to work was to ensure anything I post here never got back to my workplace.
razgriz417
Member
You will be missed Aqua, thanks for the keeping the NPD threads fun all these years
Well, all things considered, NPD seems pretty lenient. I guess they'd rather threaten employers and employees than lose a customer.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Aqua, Good Luck with everything in life, you will be missed.
Dyson Industries
Banned
Nah, the entire story about being supposedly reamed out regarding leaks. Removing yourself from GAF thanks to the publicity, and then turning around and saying "you can still find leaks at the Secret Place" like this account isn't being watched like a hawk. If her social media accounts were being pulled, especially at a place like JP Morgan, they would have been shut down immediately. None of this 'let me get a last goodbye in' attention-seeking nonsense. The holes in this story are large enough to drive a lorry through.
Let me as clear as possible: I don't believe a single word in that Tom Cruise manifesto. Nice tale, though.
Damn i can't even... I get them being so anal about leaks because of how much they charge for it but holy shit that's sounds scary as fuck.
Thank God you're able to keep your job which is the most important thing.
Take care and good luck.
+1 on the secret base if we can find it
actually surprised they are permitting that after everything.Hope creamsugar is ok.
Sigh. Not this shit again.
Trust me. I'm a PhD
Member
Goodbye Aqua... you were a very valuable member of this community and it will be lessor of a place in your departure. Thank you for your contributions over the years and being the Waifu Gaf needed even when we didn't deserve you^^
I have to agree. The post is really strange.
"And a while ago, they found out who I was and confronted me / JPMorgan Chase directly. It was really nasty at that point."
"They're giving ultimatums. And to be honest, my job is more valuable to me than anything else."
"To anyone else who leaks NPD data on GAF, watch your backs. The NPD Group is becoming increasingly vicious, and I am their latest casualty."
"And, NPD Group-permitting, I will continue to post leaks at the super-secret base (for those in the know)."
So wait, they know who Aquamarine is and set ultimatums (which means they would monitor the account). But they won't care when the last post contains "I will continue to leak". I mean what? This doesn't make sense at all. And what does "NPD Group-permitting" mean? When NPD Group allows leaks to occur?!?!? But they are vicious? I don't understand it at all. It's really weird.
I want to say "Goodbye Aquamarine" as well anyway. Whatever happened.
Wow Aqua I really had no idea how difficult your situation at work had become. I'm sad to see you go as I have always looked forward to your posts and thoughts in these sales threads. As I was reading your post I couldn't help but think of Long and Winding Road by Xavier Naidoo.
I wish you all the best in your pursuits and wherever your road may lead you Aqua you'll always have a home here. GAF won't be the same without you.
The Shogun
Banned
Am I the last one giving out some number /retail hints?
Something I missed? Like is it time to go dark too?
I will press F 100 times in your honor aqua. I dont participate very much in sales-age but i lurk pretty much and your posts are so informative, not just about the numbers, but the data itself.
We will miss you.
P.D1: I wanna be member of secret-aqua-club too
P.D2: Too all the guys that months ago attacked aqua for being and "attention hoe", finally you got what you wanted.
We will miss you.
P.D1: I wanna be member of secret-aqua-club too
P.D2: Too all the guys that months ago attacked aqua for being and "attention hoe", finally you got what you wanted.
The Last One
Member
Guys, now that Aqua can't defend herself as she's already banned I don't think you should start questioning her about this now, it's kind unfair.
vpance
Member
I think she revealed her workplace after the first incident, so they already knew.
She must have been above the law so to speak, in some ways, as a high level JPM employee and customer of NPD group. It must have been an awkward situation.
NPD has to draw strangely arbitrary lines to keep their business model going, so it's not that far a stretch. What's the point in paying them for numbers if you can't use them in limited ways? Being able to share them and inferences drawn from them with a limited audience is part of what makes subscribing to the information worthwhile in the first place. So you can't ban that outright without losing all of your customers. They're stuck trying to limit disclosure to the public instead, which is where the forum becomes a clear violation they can clamp down on.
Presuming they don't know what other channels Aquamarine has in mind makes it impossible to claim any specific infringement. It's not like they can claim they need to see all private correspondence without pissing off their subscribers. So while it seems like Aqua is courting more trouble it's also obvious he likes to irritate the NPD at every opportunity so this is consistent, too.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Ah good save, good save. Keep forgetting Abdiel's name sometimes, I almost want to spell it as "Abedail" :S.
Yeah sorry about that x3; I remember reading about you mentioning that in another post in another NPD thread (maybe the last one?), I slipped up in proofreading before posting.
I figure you'd be a shoe-in if she's selecting any people by chance, you seem to know your shit regarding sales.
There's still Creamsugar I guess.
I hope
Sounds like all that will happen is NPD will write you a really angry letter, they're like the UN that way.
Oh no Aqua!!!, now who's going to shine the light?... don't wanna have to rely on PR spin...
Yeah I'm guessing that's the real reason some people want to stop NPD numbers from getting leaked.
Sad situation about Aquamarine. Dealing with private information is difficult. It's not just NPD information, but also related to the job description. David Gibson was another example, who was told to stop talking about the Nintendo investor meetings. Information is I guess the most valuable thing on the stock market.
Hopefully others won't be scared, you just have to establish a word quota per month. =P
Hopefully others won't be scared, you just have to establish a word quota per month. =P
I'm thinking Best Buy and Gamestop aren't as militant in their zeal, with regards to retail leaks; at least not the same way NPD are.
You should be safe
SwiftDeath
Member
Wow Aqua's gone for real this time.
Sad day in so many ways and only slightly to due with the loss of sales-gaf contributions
Sad day in so many ways and only slightly to due with the loss of sales-gaf contributions