ArchedThunder
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After the fan reaction the only thing I see changing is it becoming a full exclusive. I fully expect when we hear about the game in Winter that the wording will change to "Exclusively on Playstation 4".
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Final Fantasy 7 Remake Announced (First on PS4)
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I've only been here 10 months longer than you lol, you can say I'm pretty late to the party too
I don't know for sure either way, I just remember a couple of posts mentioning she's an employee there
tim_pkmn89
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Because they're just names
bananafactory
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If it's going to happen I hope it gets announced sooner than later. Going to be a long 2 or 3 years if every FF7 thread becomes "are we SURE it's exclusive?"
GarciaHotspur
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I trust her and she has no reasons to tell things if she doesn't now but in the same time i wonder why sony did'nt tell " Console exclusive PS4 " like they did for a lot of games.
Moreover, i juste read it :
I wonder why Sony are not more clear about the deal...
Pagusas
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that wont be a problem, you can use names like that without issue, they arent name dropping star wars are even implying the characters are in any way related. Its just a simple nod and a wink, and thats perfectly allowed.
ArchedThunder
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That's why I think that they will say it in Winter.
Because they aren't sure about a PC release yet and are probably trying to lock it down as a full exclusive.
bananafactory
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Yeah my guess is the details aren't worked out yet and they don't want to back themselves into a corner until things are finalized.
Stone Ocean
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Because chances are they're still in talks about the specifics and a timed PS4 exclusivity is the only thing they can guarantee as of now
Whatever'sComfortable
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Is FF7 economically viable with just PS4 and PC?
Why wouldn't it be?
ArchedThunder
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Uh, yeah? An Xbox version would barely add anything to the game's overall sales.
Stone Ocean
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JRPGs sell like shit on Xbox. FFXIII which was the biggest one sold like 4 to 1 on PS3
stargateheaven
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an interesting thing to note is that "world of final fantasy" said CONSOLE EXCLUSIVE at E3. While FF7R said "playstation 4 first"
ArchedThunder
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And the 360 was more than competitive with the PS3, the same can't be said for Xbox One.
Whatever'sComfortable
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Why wouldn't Xbox sales add anything? This isn't going to see light until 2017/18 where there's going to be a much larger install base. It could well add a couple of million.
It was Square Enix who said a remake would be expensive and take them absolutely years to make.
Whatever'sComfortable
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4 to 1 boosted by Japanese PS3 sales, the difference in the West (particularly NA) wasn't that extreme.
Because Sony is throwing around a lot of money to make sure Japanese console games keep happening, and the audience for those Japanese games is practically nil on XB1. That's why.
The question you should be asking isn't "Is FF7 economically viable with just PS4 and PC?"
it's "Is FF7 economically viable on XB1" especially when sales are so bad on it that a port may not be worth the effort.
Stone Ocean
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Let's put it this way, the Japan sales more or less sold what the 360 versions sold total and back then the 360 had a what, 30~40 million install base?
yes.....and the 360 was winning at the time in sales worldwide correct? shows how little love there is towards JRPG's on the console.
CryTeknik_
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In my opinion; because worlds of final fantasy won't come to PC
Collateral22
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It's on it's way to being the most viewed video on Sony's YT. I think there is more than viable audience for it on PS4 alone.
That's because World of FF isn't coming to PC.
Zoe
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Because they don't want people to hold off for the PS5 remaster, duh.
Whatever'sComfortable
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I thought FF13 broke 2 million on the 360, I'd need to look that up.
Though you could put it another way, FF13 was a mess and isn't comparable to FF7
TGO
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They actually said both for World of Final Fantasy
The trailer said play it first while Sony said it was exclusive.
I have a feeling deals are being made on the fly and FFVIIR was still in negotiations.
stargateheaven
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So why use the words "console exclusive" instead of "exclusive"?
So they mean it's exclusive to consoles or exclusive to ps4/vita?
ahhhhh, it's all just so confusing.
First on PS4 might mean releases on PS4 then PC later on while World of Final Fantasy gets a PS4, VIta and PC release simultaneously. Console exclusive usually means PC and specific console.
Vincent Grayson
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Considering how thoroughly the PS4 is dominating worldwide today, and assuming that trend continues (keeping in mind this is at least a 2017 game), I'd say yes.
Stone Ocean
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FF13 was coasting on years and years of hype, it's quality was irrelevant. Even the sequels which had way lower sales sold like 4 to 1I thought FF13 broke 2 million on the 360, I'd need to look that up.
Though you could put it another way, FF13 was a mess and isn't comparable to FF7
Just look at recent examples, Type 0 HD was a fart in the wind as far as Xbox is concerned. The audience simply isn't there. I think FF7R could easily sell what 13 sold total just on PS4 alone, plus they have Sony funding;
Whatever'sComfortable
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True that, think only EA's Battlefront trailer has more views from this E3.
GhostTrick
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I'd say its more economically viable than PS4 and Xbox One.
PC costs next to nothing to release games on. No need to print copies. No fees. Ports are easy to make.
Whatever'sComfortable
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I do agree with you, I'm just not entirely used to 3rd party exclusives in this day and age due to money involved. I like to think they'd spend a stupid amount of money on this, but it doesn't even need to be the case and people would still love it.
Sony isn't a charity service. They're not going to spend millions on this only to let MS have it too for nothing.
And as stated, the Xbox audience has different tastes, to put it kindly.
But there was a difference, and it was in favour of the PS3, which was being trounced in the West.
Did you see SE's conference? All the Japanese games shown were PS4 exclusive, weren't they? The Western titles (Deus Ex/Just Cause) were clearly stated for both, because they'll sell.
Not only that, Atlus has Persona 5 that's a 3rd party exclusive. Omega Quintent (never played, but it's there), Fairy Fencer F sequel, Tales of Zestria and the new one Bethersia or something, none of those are going to ever be on XB. Or Dragon Quest Heroes, also this year.
Go_Ly_Dow
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Youtube view counter now at 7.2million.
THE THIRST IS ABSOLUTELY REAL.
Also Sony won't comment because S-E haven't decided yet. FF is proven on Playstation. It's still a uncertain entity on Xbox. Nearly all Japanese games are.
With Sony being market leader they will firstly see how FFXV performs before making a decision. Type-0 was bomba on XB1, although that isn't fair given the nature of the game too.
I just wouldn't be surprised if this goes full on exclusive after XV is out the door. Sony can clearly see the hype now too.
THE THIRST IS ABSOLUTELY REAL.
Also Sony won't comment because S-E haven't decided yet. FF is proven on Playstation. It's still a uncertain entity on Xbox. Nearly all Japanese games are.
With Sony being market leader they will firstly see how FFXV performs before making a decision. Type-0 was bomba on XB1, although that isn't fair given the nature of the game too.
I just wouldn't be surprised if this goes full on exclusive after XV is out the door. Sony can clearly see the hype now too.
ArchedThunder
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With Sony having money in the project I doubt Xbox was ever on the table.
Sony and everyone else has seen the hype, they are probably gonna lock this down. It's a console seller.
Literally just talking about that to a friend seconds ago.
It's insane.
I remember one of the last discussions on here about when/if a remake would happen, and many replies went along the line of "it's too late now, it would flop if they did it now, fans are too old".
bananafactory
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There's people on my Facebook who don't play games anymore sharing that video and saying they'll play it to revisit their youth
This is going to be something special
uh, why? It's not that it's 'Wedge Antilles' in the game.
It's also fine to feature a Luke or Leia in your game. I do wonder what would happen if you use a character called Vader or Chewie or something.
SkylineRKR
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Star Ocean, NieR 2...
Sony has their mojo back and Square must've realized Xbox wasn't the way to go for JRPG. They do give Xbox the benefit with Tomb Raider, and their western IP will come to it. But for JRPG they've chosen a clear path.
Pagusas
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Yep, I cant believe anyone would think this would flop. FF7 is a milestone moment in videogame history. People who never even played it know of it. People who werent even alive when it was released know of it. The game is credited with legitimizing the Playstation brand, with bringing RPR's to america in a serious fashion, to helping establish a cinematic game space, and to opening up games to movie like advertising and merchandising. I honestly believe half the reaction videos I've seen feature people under the age of 20 and likely have never even touch FF7, yet somehow they know the charecters, setting, music and why its such a big deal. All of us in our late 20's/early 30's though are just foaming at the mouth though, as the game hit our demographic at the exact perfect time for maximum impact.
Some people never cared for the game, some people like other FF's better, but everyone can agree FF7 was the most influential RPG ever released. The sales on this game will be huge, specifically day 1. It wont be GTAV huge, but it will be a 10+ million seller.
The best analogy i can make for this game is FF7r is like Jurassic World. who know if it will review well, or even be good, but the nostalgia factor alone is going to elevate it to insane sales.
Via Purifico
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But guys guys guys. These models in the remake
Let me prepare my weak heart for this
Let me prepare my weak heart for this
bananafactory
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Imagine if Sony finally releases that grey anniversary colour PS4 and controller in a bundle with FF7.
The fucking nostalgia man
The fucking nostalgia man
Go_Ly_Dow
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I don't think there is any money on the table. Not yet anyway. Otherwise they would have said PS4 exclusive.
S-E won't tie themselves down until XV is out. I would expect XV to sell less than 1mil units worldwide on Xbox, but you never know.
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