Professor Beef
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Lenna and the 4-5 other people in that cave were the only ones claiming to be pirates. Did nearby towns even ever hear of them?
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FINAL FANTASY Community Thread: XV Mainline Entries and Counting
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Lenna and the 4-5 other people in that cave were the only ones claiming to be pirates. Did nearby towns even ever hear of them?
Ganon Dragmire
Member
Red Mage
Member
It's okay.
Nah, VIII's cast is okay. I was just poking at Beef.
Except Zell, who is like the poster child of why women shouldn't drink alcohol or do hard drugs while pregnant.
Actually, Toriyama was involved with both VIII and X. Which means you're secretly a Toriyama fanboy. D =
Look at this smug motherfucker.
His scene introduction is him backflipping like a fucking power ranger with the biggest grin. He knows he looks great. He knows there's people who thinks he looks stupid to which he punches them in the face all while maintaining that smile. He'll even call them "Scroooooooooge!" if they're being a big enough dick.
We all know Tyson idolized him. Tyson just couldn't work the tattoo like Zell, though.
I'm sorry, but all I can think of now when I see that scene is the Mentos jingle.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
How so?
Red Mage
Member
My mistake, he was an event designer in VII, not VIII. (Apparently we can thank him for the crossdressing and honeybee inn stuff.) On X, I know he was the Event Director and a scenario designer. He was also responsible for the character backgrounds.
Meccanical
Member
Toriyama ain't so bad when he's not in charge. As his influence grew, my interests in the series waned.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
I will always stand by my statement that he is a great idea man. Execution, on the other hand, is his biggest weakness. Have him around for the concepts he comes up with, don't let him be the director or main writer.
You should definitely consider
using Fiora, too. She does a lot of damage.
Hard to raid other ships when yours is the only boat left sailing.
She can't even muster a smug ass smile. She just looks miserable.Sure.
Please.
The real queen is this badass bitch Rinoa Heartilly. She get's what she want's and she doesn't give a fuck. She's trained her dog to launch off her wrist and cause an explosion destroying anything it hits. She fucks up multiple times but who cares because guess what? she survives it all. Bet some peoples faves can't say the same. You hate her? She don cur because you're probably just a big fat meanie.
He's just got that much swag.
Haven't used them yet but I'll try for this fight.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Paging Rinoa.
I like Quistis because Professor Beef thinks I'm like her, but for the wrongest reasons as he thinks I'm bossy.
Oh, I also think FF8 has some of the more cohesive and better character designs in the series, but that might just be me.
I like Quistis because Professor Beef thinks I'm like her, but for the wrongest reasons as he thinks I'm bossy.
Oh, I also think FF8 has some of the more cohesive and better character designs in the series, but that might just be me.
Meccanical
Member
It does.
Art direction wise, FF8 is one of the best.
Art direction wise, FF8 is one of the best.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Red Mage
Member
Paging Rinoa.
I like Quistis because Professor Beef thinks I'm like her, but for the wrongest reasons as he thinks I'm bossy.
Oh, I also think FF8 has some of the more cohesive and better character designs in the series, but that might just be me.
VIII was a little too cohesive to me. The art was nice, but I didn't feel like I was exploring a whole planet, just a continent. V, VI and VII gave a much more "Larger world" experience, although to be fair, V and VI kind of cheated with how the stories are set up.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
Don't mind me.
Paging Rinoa.
I like Quistis because Professor Beef thinks I'm like her, but for the wrongest reasons as he thinks I'm bossy.
Oh, I also think FF8 has some of the more cohesive and better character designs in the series, but that might just be me.
I liked FF8's designs, though I confess I think I prefer 7's to 8's. What won me over the most though was 8's art. Like the world itself is very beautiful. 6-9 probably have my favorite worlds.
Adel and NORG were great villains, since Adel was just part of the greater Ultimecia villain.
And Gadolt makes me cri evry tim.
I think he's only referring to the main cast.
Also Adel was terrifying.
I can't really speak on V and VI since I haven't played them in forever but I honestly think VIII felt more like an actual world than most FF's. You had actual activity going on such as the train system. There was so many area's to explore and each felt so different from the other. You have the technologically advanced Esthar, the small quiet town of Winhill, the beachside towns of Dollet and Balamb, the winter school of Trabia, the busy rich city Deling, etc.
This is of course just how I personally felt so don't think I'm trying to say you're definitley wrong or anything.
hipsterpants
Member
The biggest thing I took away from FFVIII's cast is that Quistis > Rinoa. Way to fuck up, Squall.
Professor Beef
Banned
Paging Rinoa.
I like Quistis because Professor Beef thinks I'm like her, but for the wrongest reasons as he thinks I'm bossy.
Oh, I also think FF8 has some of the more cohesive and better character designs in the series, but that might just be me.
SO BOSSY
Squall totally chose the wrong girl.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Are we sure Adel is a girl? Because it looks like dude.
Professor Beef
Banned
Adel is directly referenced as a male in-game, last time I played. Or maybe I'm tripping and don't remember.
Nah, Squall made the best decision of his life. Quistis is unprofessional and slightly creepy. I bet you a few years down the road she'll still be hitting on her students.
And yes Adel's a girl. I don't understand why she looks like a man either. I'm guessing she became so screwed up that it morphed her appearance.
And yes Adel's a girl. I don't understand why she looks like a man either. I'm guessing she became so screwed up that it morphed her appearance.
Meccanical
Member
Truth be told Quistis shouldn't have been a teacher anyway.
And even if you think Quistis is the wrong choice I refuse to except the thought that Rinoa was the right one. :V
And even if you think Quistis is the wrong choice I refuse to except the thought that Rinoa was the right one. :V
Ganon Dragmire
Member
Even Zell was a better choice for Squall than Rinoa.
Makes me wonder we he all of a sudden fell for her.Hmmm
Makes me wonder we he all of a sudden fell for her.Hmmm
Maybe if we were discussing a different character I might agree but we're talking about Squall. In what way would Quistis be a good choice for him? He's an introvert and extremely shy.
Rinoa worked because she was outgoing and continuously worked to get Squall to open up. Quistis's way was to abuse her position of power.
Anyway we all know Quistis should have ended up with Seifer. Those two would have angry sex all day erry day.
Even Zell was a better choice for Squall than Rinoa.
Makes me wonder we he all of a sudden fell for her.Hmmm
That's not a fair comparison at all. Zell's better than everyone. He gives mad head.
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
Nice new avatar, Dragmire.
Ganon Dragmire
Member
Thank you.
I think you's tripping. Pretty sure they explicitly refer to Adel as a woman every step of the way, lack of teriarty female sex traits be damned.
I've always thought Adel looked like Irvine.
Anyway, the whole fact Adel is sorceress means she's female since there was never any cases of the powers being passed onto a male. Adel's role would probably have been much different if she were a man since it's so rare for a man to be a sorcerer.
Ganon Dragmire
Member
Adel is female. Dosen't the sorceress power corrupt their appearance over time? That's why Ultimecia has claws and when the party fights the sorceresses, the last one is this creature.
It does but I also think it depends partially on their choice and how corrupt they themselves become. Edea at Deling is an example of being able to change her appereance.
hipsterpants
Member
Rinoa was far and away the least interesting female character in VIII. Though I suppose that was the whole point that brought out of his shell was some powerless normal girl that used like a tracking dart gun or whatever to kill things. She didn't even get to be in my final party because I realized Selphie was way more awesome.
Irvine's gotta be the shittiest character though, nobody even talks about him because he's so irrelevant.
Irvine's gotta be the shittiest character though, nobody even talks about him because he's so irrelevant.
Professor Beef
Banned
Meccanical
Member
Come on man, she had those wacky magic abilities. Are you saying devouring a dragon isn't the hypest shit?
Oh we're talking about her personality?
Well see why would anyone go and do that.
Oh we're talking about her personality?
Well see why would anyone go and do that.
Meccanical
Member
When you put it that way I feel better.
:lol
Wait, what?
Rinoa is by far the more interesting character whether or not you like her since she gets like the other 40% of character development.
Heck, Quistis doesn't even get much development once disc 1 ends. Now, Selphie is pretty well developed but she's still not as interesting as Rinoa.
She also uses a boomeranged weapon styled like a pinwheel with blades so that it comes back to her.
Is she gonna use those powers to devour Squall's dick?
I mean Rinoa launches her dog at shit. Her dog can make you temporarily invincible. Her dad has money. Rinoa all the way.
Yeah, things have a way of working out for the best. Quistis doesn't need a guy anyway (although if it made a lick of sense I'd ship her with Noel like crazy).
Meccanical
Member
We can make Toriyama do the FFVIII remake.
Y'all shut your mouth. Don't you dare suggest that.
Also Seifer x Quistis thank you very much.
Professor Beef
Banned
No she isn't.
...oh wait, you mean character development?
Saved to throw in your teeth every time you make an FF6 comment from now on.
hipsterpants
Member
I definitely did not word that properly lol. I mean as a comparison to say, the other characters in VIII she's the only one that wasn't raised to be a soldier or given any special powers (at least until she becomes a sorceress). Yet she ended up being the one who got with squall in the end.
When I was reflecting over finishing VIII last summer (sadly I was unable to post my thoughts on GAF at the time) I think the biggest thing that stuck out to me was how relatively normal she was compared to pretty much every other gf love interest. I mean in the prior game you had a choice between either the last of a race that managed to save the world from the beyond the grave or a not really sorta childhood friend who could duplex demigods. Then there's Rinoa, just some random girl that happens to take an interest in the angstiest teenager of all time. I'm typing this on my phone so I don't feel the most articulate right now, but while I have some other issues with the story (that I am sure you could easily resolve) I thought it was cool how arguably the most damaged of any ff protagonist gets fixed by easily the weakest and "least special" of any main ff love interest.
I appreciate posts like this because you're at least taking the time to explain your issues with a character.
Now the funny thing for me is, I think Rinoa being normal is what makes her interesting and is a huge part of her character development. She's thrown into a group of trained and powerful soldiers with little experience. That's why she makes constant mistakes and is very naive. She even comments on it at Trabia when she announces her fear of falling behind and losing everyone because she can't keep up.
The game makes Squall save her over and over because of her flaws(though I admit they went a little too far to show this, once or twice would have sufficed) but it's also to build up to when she overcomes this and actually saves Squalls life.
Her backstory with her parents was also interesting. Her mom died in an accident when she was five and from this and due to his military life, her dad became controlling pushing her to be rebellious and leave her home to join a rebel group who clearly were not prepared for what they were interfering in. We know her mom was the famous singer Julia and that she was in love with someone else but never saw him again so she married and settled down with Caraway.
I liked that they decided to approach the female lead from a different angle. It obviously didn't work for everybody but I sure enjoyed it. It was nice to see her work her way in rather than already be on their level.
If you've got any story complaints I'm all ears.
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