Vigilant Walrus
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Will Matsuno return? He was removed during development wasn't he?
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Final Fantasy composers say Final Fantasy XII Remake is coming
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Makoto Yuki
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It's IZJS so yes. it should have the OP weapons that spell FINAL FANTASY.
If it's the International Zodiac version then I'll probably buy it to see if the new job system does anything for me. To be honest, XII was one of those games I felt little to no joy playing and I'd rank it as one of my least favorite titles of the series, just above XIII and VIII respectively.
It's the only Final Fantasy title where I liked the direction they were going for and thought they had a lot of good ideas, but ultimately failed to deliver on them. Something about the execution was lacking in a lot of ways, it felt dry. Exploration was just slowly jogging in samey-looking maps of an area that was way too big for how little variety in design it actually had, combat felt unengaging, the plot didn't do much for me, even the ost was forgettable to the point where it's probably the only FF game I can't even remember a single tune from it (well, besides the main theme). However, it had some of the best writting (dialogue-wise) in the series, the localization team really did a fantastic job on that front, and I really like the political background and mature tone of the story. I can see why many people love it, but... Eh. It had everything to become one of my favorite titles, and the fact that it became almost the opposite of that is really disappointing. I should play Tactics to see Ivalice done right.
Anyway, this is still good news if true.
It's the only Final Fantasy title where I liked the direction they were going for and thought they had a lot of good ideas, but ultimately failed to deliver on them. Something about the execution was lacking in a lot of ways, it felt dry. Exploration was just slowly jogging in samey-looking maps of an area that was way too big for how little variety in design it actually had, combat felt unengaging, the plot didn't do much for me, even the ost was forgettable to the point where it's probably the only FF game I can't even remember a single tune from it (well, besides the main theme). However, it had some of the best writting (dialogue-wise) in the series, the localization team really did a fantastic job on that front, and I really like the political background and mature tone of the story. I can see why many people love it, but... Eh. It had everything to become one of my favorite titles, and the fact that it became almost the opposite of that is really disappointing. I should play Tactics to see Ivalice done right.
Anyway, this is still good news if true.
Kenzodielocke
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Also, if this weren't true, wouldn't SE denied it by now ?
People who criticize FFX tend to be the same people that proclaim FFXII as the second coming of Christ. Ignore those people.
It may sound impossible to you, but there are plenty of people who love both of them, like myself, FFXII would have been my favorite if it wasn't for the story problems.
If they don't say anything by Monday, then either they have an impending announcement, or it's too dumb a rumor to dignify.
I personally think they're quiet because it's the weekend, and their PR doesn't want to bother with it till they're on the clock.
chrishackwood
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All I need is FF12 from the PS2 with AA and 60fps.
from this...
to this...
Sweet! .....on second thoughts maybe give us a more user friendly map but seriously this game doesn't need much doing to it.
from this...
to this...
Sweet! .....on second thoughts maybe give us a more user friendly map but seriously this game doesn't need much doing to it.
vainglorious
Member
Wishful thinking but since 10 was remastered along with 10-2 it'd be sweet if we also received Revenant Wings.
It'd make up for no Tactics Advance 3.
Square please. ;__;
It'd make up for no Tactics Advance 3.
Square please. ;__;
Hahaha. I couldn't disagree more. FFX's story isn't far from being my favorite in the entire series, and I never had the issue with the characters others do. Not going to get very far advancing a debate of competing preferences and adjectives, followed by a declaration that it's impossible for you to understand anyone disagreeing with you unless they only do so because they're the biased ones.
That said, this whole "it's either X or XII" dichotomy is pretty unnecessary. XII has a completely different approach to storytelling, and it's one I adore. It's funny how these discussions always create this implication that if you like one FF game, you probably aren't going to particularly like this other FF game. People's tastes aren't usually assumed to be so narrow when talking about gaming in general.
Mr. Nice_Guy
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I'm just so glad I'll finally be able to play this game to its fullest.
Obliterator
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So have we gotten confirmation this game is real?
brandonh83
Banned
No. But it can be real, in your heart.
Regardless this is happening anyway at some point.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
Excellent. One step closer to the XIII remake
nelsonroyale
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Agreed with a lot of this...the only FF fames I genuinely dislike are the FFXIII ones. I really enjoyed both FFX and FFXII.
funkystudent
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Its the last HD remaster I want. Left it after getting a next gen console last time and never returned to it.
If it gets the same redone texture stuff as FFX HD that would be great. The OG game had amazing texture work for a PS2 game but it would be super ugly if its just a straight HD remaster with no reworked assets.
If it gets the same redone texture stuff as FFX HD that would be great. The OG game had amazing texture work for a PS2 game but it would be super ugly if its just a straight HD remaster with no reworked assets.
vainglorious
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You mean The War of The Lions.
We've got that on iOS and Android. Square won't be dipping into that pot again any time soon.
I have War of the Lions and my iPad and it's great. Especially with the recent update.
YianGaruga
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YianGaruga
Banned
It'll be a remaster, so they'll change nothing
Most likely. Wonder if they'll give them models this time.
Doubt we'll get Revenant Wings alongside it. If we do get a second game with XII HD it'll probably Tactics WotL HD since they already have HD assets from the iOS version.
Some remasters have done some gameplay changes. DmC had rebalances, KH BBS HD had some minor adjustments as well. There are probably others that I'm missing.
I was actually thinking about the Trango Tower and the Seitengrat
Current RNG manipulation techniques will not work, right?
The Seitengrat will be a pain to get..Just watch they using the weakest bow/sword models for then lol
Makoto Yuki
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I was actually thinking about the Trango Tower and the Seitengrat
Current RNG manipulation techniques will not work, right?
Ohh, I dunno
Is that the one that is like 1/256 chance of spawning or something ridiculous?
jimmythepage
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Remake? Maybe HD port?
A game isn't just defined by how it looks.All I need is FF12 from the PS2 with AA and 60fps.
from this...
to this...
Sweet! .....on second thoughts maybe give us a more user friendly map but seriously this game doesn't need much doing to it.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Ohh, I dunno
Is that the one that is like 1/256 chance of spawning or something ridiculous?
Only in a chest in the deck of one of the travel airships
1% chance of the chest appearing
The chest has no model, you have to bump it to know its there
It will contain gil ~80% of the time, and if not gil, theres still a very low chance for it to contain the Seitengrat
The chance of getting it is ~ 1/10,000
Makoto Yuki
Banned
:/ Hopefully it's on Vita FFX/X-2 so I can gamble on the go...
AuthenticM
Member
Holy shit. This is great.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Wait? People don't like Fran's voice? I think it's fucking awesome.
Fine Ham Abounds
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I love the two times a year we agree on something
Saint Gregory
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Man, I'd love to see Matsuno return to SE but that's just me being selfish because I want some damn Ivalice games :3
I'm not sure if a composer would know the difference between a remaster and a remake but it would be awesome if they actually did something about the way the story just stops suddenly halfway through the game. I always said that you could practically feel the moment in-game where Matsuno was removed from the project :/
Sumio Mondo
Member
*fist bump*
So, so excited for this. Hope they announce it at Gamescom! Hope they include both versions of the game, not just one or the other.
I honestly hope it's not a remake. Just give us FFXII IZJS in 1080/60 and I will play it over and over again. I'd be fine with more hunting marks and some items but don't mess with it otherwise.
Game is damn close to perfect in my book - even if I'd prefer the original vision even more. Vaan is not my favorite character by any stretch.
Game is damn close to perfect in my book - even if I'd prefer the original vision even more. Vaan is not my favorite character by any stretch.
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
I lost track of many games while growing up but Final Fantasy XII isn't one of them and I'm really looking forward to this.
The Last One
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I'm sorry, but the story is mature so what? It gets really boring in the second half of the game.
Mature ≠ good.
And yeah, I love FF XII, the first half of the game's story is actually amazing.
ZombiePlatypus
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I'm...actually excited. Any chance they'll actually flesh out the and fix the clearly half baked story? The game already has a gorgeous world. A great plot would elevate it so much.
The chest is pretty far from the door, so it takes a lot of time for each try :/
You could use the disk loading sounds of the PS2 to know if the chest was there or not, saving a lot of time..
Just wait for the all weapons trophy to require this weapon
MrChowderClams
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I've heard IZJS fixes those issues, but I'm not motivated enough to get a copy of it. I generally agree with your sentiments though. I really wanted to like FFXII (and in many ways I do), but hol-y shit was the pace of the game grueling. I mentioned this in that LTTP FFXII thread that was here recently;
I liked Giruvegan a lot as a location but fuck me was it long. Walking through that damn swamp, getting to the city, walking down endless flights of stairs, then turning around in circles in that damn yellow crystal. Just when I thought, "It can't get any worse can it?" It sends you to that stupid tower in the middle of nowhere and HOLY SHIT did I want to break my controller.
I think I actually stopped playing before the end and just watched a playthrough on YT because by that point I just wanted to figure out how it all ended. But yeah, story was pretty good for a FF game. It's kinda like Star Wars set in Ivalice, and I guess that's ok. Also, ashe needs longer pants and vaan needs a fucking shirt lol.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
I have two of those. The second one was a result of me being really drunk and attempting to order a collector's edition of the strategy guide off of Amazon one night. I was a bit surprised when it arrived, but decided to just keep it.
Sanctuary
Member
Unless it's the superior IZJS, a PC release would be kind of pointless. Since you can play that verion already on PC at 6x the internal resolution.
The speed up makes a WORLD of difference. It makes backtracking so much easier, and it also removes the tedium of fights you can already win by mashing X. Also, what was wrong with Ashe's outfit? It was pretty stereotypical, but her boots were so high up that she may as well have been wearing pants.
MrChowderClams
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12 does have a different approach, it is actually good. At least the first half. It combined a strong, mature story, with a solid execution.
10 had this nonsensical logic about death that ruins the drama and the plot moves at the most predictable, cliched way with a bunch of cliched characters taking us there filled with cliched story tropes and cliched scenarios. With poor dialogue and writing. One of the worst, most annoying and conveniently dumb protagonists in any FF(I mean how many times can they hint about Yuna's sacrifice and the guy just doesnt get it because it is convenient for the plot?). Which of course leads to a predictable ending with a cringe-worthy conclusion. It is convoluted and not in a complex or meaningful way but in a way that just adds twists as a substitution to quality story to keep players interested and compelled. Even if it requires characters to break logic or intentionally act dumb to set them up.
Like a lot of RPG stories the basic premise in 10 sounds interesting, even fascinating, but the execution is awful.
What makes it worse is the VA is pretty bad all around.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
What if Alexander O. Smith isn't localizing FFXV because he's handling an expanded FFXII instead?
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